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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 10:47 AM
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85. I don't mind the lovefest
Because I learned about him while reading those threads, and that's always a good thing. Also, I don't mind the criticism, because I learned a lot while reading that as well. That's what this site is supposed to be about - expanding our knowledge. So hearing from both sides is a good thing.

I am on the side that says the internet is not a funeral home, nor is it a wake. But I wouldn't go into a specific love-fest thread and start pope-bashing, that's just wrong. I know people are grieving in those threads, and I do respect that. But they can't stake a claim over the entire internet, or even the entire DU site as their private turf for mourning.

It's not so different from the Kerry bashing, in that way. As someone who supported him whole-heartedly, I found the bashing to be infuriating, but what made it worse was that you can't mention his name in a thread without it being derailed by a half dozen off-topic posts reminding you that they would never vote for him again. That's just rude for the sake of being rude. Specific threads for criticizing Kerry were one thing, crapping all over every conversation about him was another.

So in the lovefest threads, I hold my tongue, and maybe learn a bit of history and have some compassion for fellow DUers. And in the threads that criticize him, I wouldn't go out of my way to call him names, but I'm not going to sugarcoat his role in bringing Bush and Falwell to power, or overlook the fact that despite his giving lipservice to the antiwar movement, he quietly allowed the Catholic Church to form the Christian Coalition, which in turn brought about the war he claimed he opposed. All the lip service in the world doesn't change the fact that they had a specific plan to take over the house, senate, presidency, and judicial system in the US, and now they've done it - it's no use claiming moral high ground when they themselves created the situation. Nor will I overlook the fact that he traded your or my freedom of choice (whether it be reproductive rights or choice of who to marry) in return for more power for the church.

After doing a lot of reading these last few days, I don't believe he was actually homophobic or opposed to birth control or abortion; I believe he espoused those views because to do otherwise undermined the church's credibility and thus the church's power. Unfortunately, I also believe that being homophobic is hateful and ignorant, but pretending to be because of your thirst for power is even worse - that's not ignornace, it's moral failing.
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