Reply #21: No, not to me...

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The question is, regardless of your personal belief system, or nice statements made that liberals like, do you use your position as a religious leader to push your oppressive agenda into the political realm.

Which this Pope and his Church did, and do, with regularity. Just like those fundies we are all free to hate.

I guess everyone conviently forgot those Catholic chruches that refused to let Kerry to attend Mass during the election. Or didn't read the Vatican screed against gay marriage and civil unions, calling them evil and depraved, and demanding that their Bishops and laypeople fight any legislation that would allow them. Or didn't notice the weekly updates from the Pope reminding us all just how much he disapproved of gays. Or missed the way the Church is aligning itself, increasingly, with the religious right in this country, to come together against the common enemy: women who want choice and gays. And all the while, hiding pedophilles from justice.

But, it's not nice to say those things, even if they are true.