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35. 'The US' provided ideology, built Hitler's private army, war machine,
These suppressed facts are what undermine any attempt to claim that people who criticise all the US military has done "are just whining uber-lefties who make us look bad."

Nazi wars and eugenics are as American as apple pie and Ford. Literally.
(The Rise of American Fascism)

The idea of the US saving the world from Hitler is bogus. The US helped create and arm Hitler. After he destroyed Europe, the very same bankers that created the monster managed the billions of dollars of the Marshall Plan to rebuild, just like Halliburton and Iraq. Only now Europe was a sub-set of the American economy. Mission accomplished. /
(Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler)

The Jews were left to fend for themselves. Refugees were turned away from US shores. US-owned factories in Germany were protected from Allied bombing runs.

US corporations and banks supported both Mussolini AND Hitler.
(The Nazi Hydra in America)

Hitler was encouraged by the US 'final solution' for Native Americans and he was financed by Prescott Bush and Averill Harriman's bank which funneled money to Hitler's banker.
(The Bush Family Connection to the Nazis)
(George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography)

Remington rifles (from Dupont) were supplied to Hitler's private army and then US manufacturers armed him to the teeth before AND during the actual fighting of WWII.

Ford, Standard Oil, Alcoa, IBM, and many more.
(The Hemp, Hearst, Rockefeller, Nazi Connection)

As Germany was losing, many Nazis made deals to come to the US and they did. Operation Paperclip brought hundreds of war criminals into the US to form NASA and the CIA.
(CIA Recruited Eichmann's Assistants)

The US left weapons behind in Europe for their pet Nazis to use terrorizing Europe against communism in Operation Gladio. The Vatican was HQ for the US-Nazi 'rat-lines' that let Nazis escape to South America.

...and finally, this is a very comprehensive history of the Nazis and fascists used in US intelligence since 1943:
(The Nazi Connection to the JFK Assasination)
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  -Poll Question: Which Was The Most Immoral U.S. Led War In History? DistressedAmerican  Apr-02-05 05:53 PM   #0 
  - Nam had more casualties but Iraq is just as pointless....  hippiepunk   Apr-02-05 05:55 PM   #1 
  - I Weighed That Myself. Decided That The Personal Greed Behind  DistressedAmerican   Apr-02-05 05:57 PM   #8 
  - strategic positioning for oil could be argued as having a point. Then  lonestarnot   Apr-03-05 06:18 PM   #89 
  - Can I answer all of them?  Generic Guy   Apr-02-05 05:55 PM   #2 
  - WW2 was the least pointless  hippiepunk   Apr-02-05 05:57 PM   #7 
  - George the Third thanks you for that sentiment, from wherever he is!..nt  Princess Turandot   Apr-02-05 06:08 PM   #20 
  - Had to say Indian  AllyCat   Apr-02-05 05:56 PM   #3 
  - That Was My Vote As Well.  DistressedAmerican   Apr-02-05 06:02 PM   #14 
  - Sorta like my sig pic?  troubleinwinter   Apr-02-05 06:09 PM   #22 
     - That's the one!  AllyCat   Apr-02-05 10:34 PM   #44 
  - Not Iraq yet  Jon_da_brockman   Apr-02-05 05:56 PM   #4 
  - Welcome to DU!!!!  XemaSab   Apr-02-05 06:33 PM   #28 
  - I also chose 'Nam, but this current one is close, I agree n/t  FourStarDemocrat   Apr-04-05 08:13 AM   #108 
     - I Rerun The Poll In 2007 and See How It IS Going Then!  DistressedAmerican   Apr-04-05 12:38 PM   #110 
  - A good case can be made for the Spanish-American War.  LeftyMom   Apr-02-05 05:56 PM   #5 
  - Spanish-American  adwon   Apr-02-05 05:57 PM   #6 
  - I agree . . . a war with absolutely no redeeming qualities  LSdemocrat   Apr-02-05 09:01 PM   #38 
  - Series of guerilla campaigns I guess  adwon   Apr-02-05 09:04 PM   #39 
  - I think the Native Indians might disagree.  Poppyseedman   Apr-02-05 09:59 PM   #40 
     - Methods  adwon   Apr-03-05 05:20 PM   #84 
  - I was gonna say...  last_texas_dem   Apr-03-05 06:21 AM   #51 
  - Spanish American  mitchtv   Apr-03-05 04:14 PM   #80 
  - who the fuck voted ww2?  7th_Sephiroth   Apr-02-05 05:58 PM   #9 
  - Probably just a freeper lurker. n/t  Crunchy Frog   Apr-02-05 06:02 PM   #15 
  - Uber-lefties  WoodrowFan   Apr-02-05 06:33 PM   #27 
  - anti-semites  imenja   Apr-03-05 07:12 AM   #54 
  - Freepers posing as "uber Lefties"  Bridget Burke   Apr-04-05 07:11 AM   #104 
  - Well...  murdoch   Apr-02-05 10:59 PM   #46 
  - so what?  imenja   Apr-03-05 07:13 AM   #55 
  - I wondered that too  imenja   Apr-03-05 07:11 AM   #53 
     - well, not CLEARLY just  7th_Sephiroth   Apr-03-05 10:15 AM   #62 
        - that qualifies as just in my book  imenja   Apr-03-05 03:46 PM   #71 
           - I Do have to ask about the excesses though.  DistressedAmerican   Apr-03-05 04:01 PM   #75 
              - I agree entirely, but if we are to ask ourselves one simple question  imenja   Apr-03-05 04:17 PM   #81 
              - Looks like we agree.  DistressedAmerican   Apr-03-05 04:29 PM   #82 
              - there will be mistakes in war  7th_Sephiroth   Apr-03-05 07:45 PM   #97 
  - what were we stealing in viet nam?  mopinko   Apr-02-05 05:58 PM   #10 
  - defense industries profiting on blood  hippiepunk   Apr-02-05 06:00 PM   #12 
  - freedom  imenja   Apr-03-05 07:14 AM   #56 
     - i just find that so impossible to believe  mopinko   Apr-03-05 12:24 PM   #64 
        - find what impossible to believe? The Cold War?  imenja   Apr-03-05 03:44 PM   #70 
        - not oversimplify  mopinko   Apr-03-05 05:05 PM   #83 
           - historians are not afraid of examining economic circumstances  imenja   Apr-03-05 05:40 PM   #86 
        - by the way, in case my subject line wasn't clear  imenja   Apr-04-05 07:07 AM   #103 
  - Come on: it has to be the Indian Wars.  damntexdem   Apr-02-05 05:58 PM   #11 
  - Yeah, I basically agree with that-- Indian Wars, then Mexican, then WWI  Muddy Waters Guitar   Apr-03-05 03:11 PM   #66 
  - Very Good Post.  DistressedAmerican   Apr-03-05 03:48 PM   #72 
     - Jesus I Just Remembered "The Forgotten War", Korea.  DistressedAmerican   Apr-03-05 03:54 PM   #73 
  - you really mean colonization, right?  imenja   Apr-03-05 09:08 PM   #99 
     - Yes, The sum total of the colonial expansion.  DistressedAmerican   Apr-03-05 09:20 PM   #101 
        - one thing is sure  imenja   Apr-03-05 10:08 PM   #102 
           - Like I said, Don't Mess With The Timeline!  DistressedAmerican   Apr-04-05 07:25 AM   #106 
  - The war against the Native Americans without question.  Crunchy Frog   Apr-02-05 06:00 PM   #13 
  - GENOCIDE... exactly.  troubleinwinter   Apr-02-05 06:10 PM   #23 
  - Made that much more immoral by wrapping it in the cloak...  teamster633   Apr-02-05 07:01 PM   #31 
     - Agree. I'd put this mess a close second, though. n/t  johnaries   Apr-02-05 10:08 PM   #43 
     - Hey Killin' For The Lord Is More Satisfying!  DistressedAmerican   Apr-03-05 06:14 AM   #49 
  - Indian Wars by far  ButterflyBlood   Apr-02-05 06:02 PM   #16 
  - i chose other because.....  stillcool47   Apr-02-05 06:05 PM   #17 
  - sadly, the Indian wars  knowbody0   Apr-02-05 06:05 PM   #18 
  - What about The American Revolution was Immoral?  Placebo   Apr-02-05 06:07 PM   #19 
  - It was for monetary gain?  muriel_volestrangler   Apr-02-05 06:53 PM   #29 
     - deleted  WoodrowFan   Apr-02-05 06:54 PM   #30 
  - WWII because of the nuclear bombs  Rockerdem   Apr-02-05 06:08 PM   #21 
  - Good Point. Don't Forget the firebombing of civilian centers.  DistressedAmerican   Apr-02-05 06:17 PM   #25 
  - yeah, who cares about the holocaust  WoodrowFan   Apr-02-05 06:30 PM   #26 
     - I Don't Remember Implying Anything Of The Sort.  DistressedAmerican   Apr-02-05 07:03 PM   #32 
     - Distressed, I wasn't answering YOU. sorry  WoodrowFan   Apr-02-05 07:06 PM   #33 
     - OOPS! My Bad I Misread The Reply To Line ...  DistressedAmerican   Apr-02-05 07:21 PM   #34 
     - 'The US' provided ideology, built Hitler's private army, war machine,  JohnOneillsMemory   Apr-02-05 07:24 PM   #35 
        - Wow! Thanks for the links and the info. I can understand your vote.  shelley806   Apr-02-05 08:20 PM   #36 
           - I didn't vote, just commented. Machiavelli, Hitler, Strauss, Rove.  JohnOneillsMemory   Apr-02-05 10:47 PM   #45 
  - Hadda be the Indian Wars - broke EVERY treaty made  ConcernedCanuk   Apr-02-05 06:12 PM   #24 
  - Sometimes makes me wonder  Muddy Waters Guitar   Apr-03-05 03:12 PM   #67 
  - What a great poll!!!  Syncronaut Seven   Apr-02-05 08:59 PM   #37 
  - Iraq. We have more enemies now than we've ever had.  in_cog_ni_to   Apr-02-05 10:04 PM   #41 
  - The Indian wars were genocide  Blue_In_AK   Apr-02-05 10:05 PM   #42 
  - Not Even The American Revolution?  DistressedAmerican   Apr-03-05 06:09 AM   #48 
     - Well, yeah, of course. That's a no-brainer.  Blue_In_AK   Apr-03-05 04:03 PM   #76 
        - Couldn't agree more!  DistressedAmerican   Apr-03-05 04:12 PM   #79 
  - Sunday Moning Paper Kick!  DistressedAmerican   Apr-03-05 06:07 AM   #47 
  - Upon Reconsideration I Guess I Should Have Included Thw "War On Terror"  DistressedAmerican   Apr-03-05 06:18 AM   #50 
  - How do you not have Vietnam there? And Who TF voted for WWII?  imenja   Apr-03-05 07:09 AM   #52 
  - It Is Listed As Nam.  DistressedAmerican   Apr-03-05 07:15 AM   #57 
     - yes, sorry  imenja   Apr-03-05 07:16 AM   #59 
        - I'll Take Note Of The Statistical Anomoly When I Issue  DistressedAmerican   Apr-03-05 07:24 AM   #61 
           - DistressedAmerican, I have to tell you, I love your graphics... n/t  Blue_In_AK   Apr-03-05 04:04 PM   #77 
           - Blue_In_AK I Have To Tell YOU That I Always Love Hearing That.  DistressedAmerican   Apr-03-05 04:09 PM   #78 
           - stupid people like me are a reason I'm not including other in future polls  imenja   Apr-03-05 06:21 PM   #90 
  - Vietnam  imenja   Apr-03-05 07:15 AM   #58 
  - WWII and the American Revolution get votes and WWI none  imenja   Apr-03-05 07:23 AM   #60 
  - Given that the question was "U.S. Led", I'd question putting WWI  muriel_volestrangler   Apr-03-05 06:09 PM   #87 
     - it doesn't rank high on my list either  imenja   Apr-03-05 06:16 PM   #88 
        - I suppose the question is did any have features to make them the *worst*  muriel_volestrangler   Apr-03-05 06:31 PM   #93 
           - I have to go with Vietnam  imenja   Apr-03-05 06:45 PM   #96 
              - It Does Scare Me That This Poll Is Way Too Premature To Know!  DistressedAmerican   Apr-03-05 09:03 PM   #98 
  - No One Has Issues With Gulf War I (AKA Poppy's War)  DistressedAmerican   Apr-03-05 11:50 AM   #63 
  - I certainly do  Lilith Velkor   Apr-03-05 02:46 PM   #65 
  - Panama n/t  oldlady   Apr-03-05 03:15 PM   #68 
  - why Panama over the 35 plus other invasions of Latin American nations?  imenja   Apr-03-05 06:22 PM   #92 
  - Comparisons between this "war" and "Polk's War" aren't even a stretch  underpants   Apr-03-05 03:18 PM   #69 
  - Forgot Korea! (Posted this up higher but, meant to put it here)  DistressedAmerican   Apr-03-05 03:55 PM   #74 
  - The Mexican War  jaredh   Apr-03-05 05:33 PM   #85 
  - You can't even remotely call WW I "American led"  ironflange   Apr-03-05 06:22 PM   #91 
  - WW2 was American-led? And who the FUCK voted for it?  Lone Pawn   Apr-03-05 06:37 PM   #94 
  - Fair Enough On Both WW's "American Led" Was A Poor Choice Of Words...  DistressedAmerican   Apr-03-05 06:42 PM   #95 
  - WWI was anything but American led, we barely got involved.  JVS   Apr-03-05 09:10 PM   #100 
  - As far as "real wars" go, the Mexican War was the worst.  Bridget Burke   Apr-04-05 07:13 AM   #105 
  - The Mexican War...  Spider Jerusalem   Apr-04-05 08:02 AM   #107 
     - Already retracted the wording...  DistressedAmerican   Apr-04-05 08:14 AM   #109 

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