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Sun Apr-03-05 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #48 |
| 63. Families headed by a single female pose highest risk for dom violence? |
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Uh, no. Men comitt 86% of violent crimes in our society. Dept of Justice stats. Domestic violence stats show that women are by FAR more often the victim of DV, not the perpetrators.
Comments like that distort the fact that women are at the highest risk to be victims of domestic violence, not men.
As you noted in another post, perpetrators abuse those who are physically weaker or younger than they are, those who are more vulnerable. Women and children are far more likely to be victims of men than the reverse.
Discussing the facts and statistics is not "finger pointing." It's intellectual honesty.
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| -THE SEVEN P's OF MEN'S VIOLENCE - Michael Kaufman, Ph.D. |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 03:35 PM |
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Very interesting...especially if combined with the info from the article |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-02-05 03:41 PM |
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Wow, indeed. |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 03:44 PM |
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I was just saying the same thing about poor Jud Fry |
hfojvt |
Apr-03-05 09:07 AM |
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Also..maybe this should be posted on the women's issues forum |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-02-05 03:42 PM |
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Good idea. |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 03:46 PM |
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. |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 03:58 PM |
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I am disappointed at how little attention this is getting. I nominated it |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-02-05 04:08 PM |
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You got it! |
beam me up scottie |
Apr-02-05 04:10 PM |
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Wow, you guys rock. |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 04:13 PM |
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Thanks! |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 04:10 PM |
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Reads like a bio of "The Young George W" |
TOJ |
Apr-02-05 04:29 PM |
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I thought about Georgie. |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 04:41 PM |
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Little GW was a success at exploding frogs with firecrackers. |
FreedomFry |
Apr-02-05 06:10 PM |
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Fascinating article. |
H2O Man |
Apr-02-05 04:44 PM |
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It's a valid point. |
frustrated_lefty |
Apr-02-05 04:56 PM |
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Sounds fascinating. I willhave to do a bit of googling. |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-02-05 05:28 PM |
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an example of power within is John Paul II |
scarletlib |
Apr-02-05 06:05 PM |
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Thanks for the info |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 06:41 PM |
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Is it Spiral Dance? |
MountainLaurel |
Apr-02-05 08:29 PM |
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Yes,that's the one, thank you. :) |
frustrated_lefty |
Apr-02-05 09:11 PM |
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kickaroo |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-02-05 05:27 PM |
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Men need to organize against patriarchy |
Nikia |
Apr-02-05 05:44 PM |
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Indeed, for their sake as well as ours. |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 06:56 PM |
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More cogent: Biderman's Chart of Coercion...every child gets tortured! |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-02-05 05:48 PM |
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Scary shit. |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 06:57 PM |
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Yup. This isn't a gender-specific pattern. It is control-specific. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-02-05 07:51 PM |
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I disagree with your point regarding brain chemistries |
ultraist |
Apr-02-05 08:39 PM |
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I tend to agree. |
H2O Man |
Apr-02-05 08:42 PM |
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Research supports your point |
ultraist |
Apr-02-05 09:05 PM |
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Yep. |
H2O Man |
Apr-02-05 09:21 PM |
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PS: |
H2O Man |
Apr-02-05 09:24 PM |
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Your comments combined with your avatar are rich in irony. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-02-05 11:20 PM |
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I suppose people see |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 09:26 AM |
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I admire Ali too. I was noting how images are used with dual purposes. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-03-05 04:24 PM |
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I agree. However, I think the author points out that men by and large |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 11:23 PM |
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True story: |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 09:42 AM |
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Sounds like you raised him right. |
mzmolly |
Apr-03-05 10:51 AM |
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TOTALLY agree. |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 11:18 PM |
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I think that even more |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 09:50 AM |
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Families headed by a single female pose highest risk for dom violence? |
ultraist |
Apr-03-05 01:42 PM |
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Dept of Justice |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 01:47 PM |
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Domestic Violence perps are charged in criminal court! |
ultraist |
Apr-03-05 02:04 PM |
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Nonsense. |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 02:24 PM |
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Apparently, you did not read my post |
ultraist |
Apr-03-05 02:47 PM |
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"Families headed by a single female..." |
bloom |
Apr-03-05 04:18 PM |
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Many cases are exactly that. |
H2O Man |
Apr-04-05 03:08 PM |
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Violence from girls is skyrocketing. I think 'Zena' and 'Buffy' are why. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-04-05 02:48 PM |
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The OP article didn't touch physiology OR matriarchal cultures. Darn. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-03-05 12:12 AM |
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Very important points. |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 10:01 AM |
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please see my other post before you jump on this poster's bandwagon |
FarceOfNature |
Apr-03-05 01:52 PM |
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Interesting. |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 02:12 PM |
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I unfortunately have to run but one quick comment... |
FarceOfNature |
Apr-03-05 02:35 PM |
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Well said farceofnature! |
ultraist |
Apr-03-05 03:02 PM |
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this line of reasoning is ridiculous and untenable |
FarceOfNature |
Apr-03-05 01:49 PM |
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While cautioning against social bias you show your own. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-03-05 07:47 PM |
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'No Time For Bullies' demonstrates the power of role modeling influence. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-04-05 02:22 PM |
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Role modeling is one of many reasons why I dread a WesClark presidency. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-04-05 02:37 PM |
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Funny the article made me think of the Clark Presidency as well. |
mzmolly |
Apr-06-05 11:23 AM |
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Great post, Great reply! Herein lies the crux of the prob! |
hue |
Apr-03-05 01:22 PM |
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Republicans think it's because kids aren't "spanked/disciplined" |
mzmolly |
Apr-06-05 11:31 AM |
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The Fifth "P" has this to say about emotional distance: |
beam me up scottie |
Apr-02-05 07:57 PM |
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No wonder we have "issues" |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 08:19 PM |
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Oh yeah! |
beam me up scottie |
Apr-02-05 08:44 PM |
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The 5th P--lack of empathy |
hue |
Apr-03-05 01:29 PM |
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Other research supports the claims of Kaufman |
ultraist |
Apr-02-05 08:52 PM |
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The male-culture military |
Karenina |
Apr-04-05 02:33 PM |
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they forgot to mention the eighth "P" . . . penis . . . |
OneBlueSky |
Apr-03-05 01:08 AM |
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Kick. |
BlueIris |
Apr-03-05 01:59 AM |
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In any flawed system |
buddyhollysghost |
Apr-03-05 03:29 AM |
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awesome lyrics buddyhollysghost! |
ultraist |
Apr-03-05 01:51 PM |
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Thanks ultraist! |
buddyhollysghost |
Apr-03-05 08:13 PM |
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Kick again. |
BlueIris |
Apr-03-05 04:37 AM |
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Interesting article, but it omits |
entanglement |
Apr-03-05 06:40 AM |
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Interesting. |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 10:11 AM |
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While the article doesn't exactly give a time frame... |
bloom |
Apr-03-05 02:15 PM |
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The article explores one component: socialization |
ultraist |
Apr-03-05 02:33 PM |
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Kick! |
Karenina |
Apr-03-05 07:12 AM |
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Ending patriarchy as we know it. |
Senior citizen |
Apr-03-05 10:05 AM |
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Good point. |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 10:14 AM |
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Amen. And humane human beings at that. n/t |
Senior citizen |
Apr-03-05 10:16 AM |
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Amen and AMEN! |
mzmolly |
Apr-03-05 10:55 AM |
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This is a nice thread. |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 11:00 AM |
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Aw shucks. |
mzmolly |
Apr-03-05 12:54 PM |
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WHAT matriachal social structures? |
ultraist |
Apr-03-05 02:56 PM |
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That seems a bit too extreme, no? |
Placebo |
Apr-03-05 03:59 PM |
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Umm, you make one crucial |
entanglement |
Apr-04-05 04:48 AM |
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Gender roles have NO biological basis whatsoever. |
Senior citizen |
Apr-04-05 10:15 PM |
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kick one more time |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-03-05 12:02 PM |
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kick |
purji |
Apr-03-05 12:36 PM |
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This is really interesting on so many levels |
bloom |
Apr-03-05 01:31 PM |
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So he's going to do all the shopping? |
Senior citizen |
Apr-03-05 02:14 PM |
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To some extent... |
bloom |
Apr-03-05 02:33 PM |
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I love this! |
mzmolly |
Apr-03-05 05:39 PM |
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Yikes! |
mzmolly |
Apr-03-05 02:29 PM |
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His 7 "P"s: |
bloom |
Apr-03-05 02:28 PM |
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Thanks for boiling it down. |
mzmolly |
Apr-03-05 02:39 PM |
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If one through four are pretty solely in the male realm, |
Senior citizen |
Apr-03-05 04:13 PM |
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heh |
bloom |
Apr-03-05 04:35 PM |
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Well, since there are a gazillion unemployed guys who would |
Senior citizen |
Apr-03-05 05:27 PM |
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ROTFLMAO! |
mzmolly |
Apr-03-05 05:45 PM |
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Bonnie Erbe on this subject...
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bloom |
Apr-04-05 12:51 PM |
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What an excellent point. |
mzmolly |
Apr-03-05 05:42 PM |
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Violence glorified... |
bloom |
Apr-06-05 12:13 PM |
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Very good article |
DawgHouse |
Apr-03-05 02:43 PM |
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The best feminist book I've ever read... |
shockra |
Apr-04-05 02:44 AM |
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Wow, sounds like an excellent read. |
mzmolly |
Apr-04-05 12:28 PM |
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Men are threatened by other men, not women. Good point. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-04-05 03:29 PM |
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I love this post. |
bloom |
Apr-06-05 11:17 AM |
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more typical anti-male sexist propaganda |
cheezus |
Apr-06-05 11:59 AM |
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Now exactly WHO, but your BEST friend |
Karenina |
Apr-06-05 01:37 PM |
#110 |
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