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Sun Apr-03-05 10:51 AM
Response to Reply #47 |
| 54. Sounds like you raised him right. |
| -THE SEVEN P's OF MEN'S VIOLENCE - Michael Kaufman, Ph.D. |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 03:35 PM |
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Very interesting...especially if combined with the info from the article |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-02-05 03:41 PM |
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Wow, indeed. |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 03:44 PM |
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I was just saying the same thing about poor Jud Fry |
hfojvt |
Apr-03-05 09:07 AM |
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Also..maybe this should be posted on the women's issues forum |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-02-05 03:42 PM |
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Good idea. |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 03:46 PM |
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. |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 03:58 PM |
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I am disappointed at how little attention this is getting. I nominated it |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-02-05 04:08 PM |
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You got it! |
beam me up scottie |
Apr-02-05 04:10 PM |
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Wow, you guys rock. |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 04:13 PM |
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Thanks! |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 04:10 PM |
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Reads like a bio of "The Young George W" |
TOJ |
Apr-02-05 04:29 PM |
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I thought about Georgie. |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 04:41 PM |
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Little GW was a success at exploding frogs with firecrackers. |
FreedomFry |
Apr-02-05 06:10 PM |
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Fascinating article. |
H2O Man |
Apr-02-05 04:44 PM |
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It's a valid point. |
frustrated_lefty |
Apr-02-05 04:56 PM |
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Sounds fascinating. I willhave to do a bit of googling. |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-02-05 05:28 PM |
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an example of power within is John Paul II |
scarletlib |
Apr-02-05 06:05 PM |
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Thanks for the info |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 06:41 PM |
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Is it Spiral Dance? |
MountainLaurel |
Apr-02-05 08:29 PM |
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Yes,that's the one, thank you. :) |
frustrated_lefty |
Apr-02-05 09:11 PM |
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kickaroo |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-02-05 05:27 PM |
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Men need to organize against patriarchy |
Nikia |
Apr-02-05 05:44 PM |
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Indeed, for their sake as well as ours. |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 06:56 PM |
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More cogent: Biderman's Chart of Coercion...every child gets tortured! |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-02-05 05:48 PM |
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Scary shit. |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 06:57 PM |
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Yup. This isn't a gender-specific pattern. It is control-specific. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-02-05 07:51 PM |
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I disagree with your point regarding brain chemistries |
ultraist |
Apr-02-05 08:39 PM |
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I tend to agree. |
H2O Man |
Apr-02-05 08:42 PM |
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Research supports your point |
ultraist |
Apr-02-05 09:05 PM |
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Yep. |
H2O Man |
Apr-02-05 09:21 PM |
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PS: |
H2O Man |
Apr-02-05 09:24 PM |
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Your comments combined with your avatar are rich in irony. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-02-05 11:20 PM |
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I suppose people see |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 09:26 AM |
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I admire Ali too. I was noting how images are used with dual purposes. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-03-05 04:24 PM |
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I agree. However, I think the author points out that men by and large |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 11:23 PM |
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True story: |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 09:42 AM |
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Sounds like you raised him right. |
mzmolly |
Apr-03-05 10:51 AM |
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TOTALLY agree. |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 11:18 PM |
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I think that even more |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 09:50 AM |
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Families headed by a single female pose highest risk for dom violence? |
ultraist |
Apr-03-05 01:42 PM |
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Dept of Justice |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 01:47 PM |
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Domestic Violence perps are charged in criminal court! |
ultraist |
Apr-03-05 02:04 PM |
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Nonsense. |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 02:24 PM |
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Apparently, you did not read my post |
ultraist |
Apr-03-05 02:47 PM |
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"Families headed by a single female..." |
bloom |
Apr-03-05 04:18 PM |
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Many cases are exactly that. |
H2O Man |
Apr-04-05 03:08 PM |
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Violence from girls is skyrocketing. I think 'Zena' and 'Buffy' are why. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-04-05 02:48 PM |
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The OP article didn't touch physiology OR matriarchal cultures. Darn. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-03-05 12:12 AM |
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Very important points. |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 10:01 AM |
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please see my other post before you jump on this poster's bandwagon |
FarceOfNature |
Apr-03-05 01:52 PM |
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Interesting. |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 02:12 PM |
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I unfortunately have to run but one quick comment... |
FarceOfNature |
Apr-03-05 02:35 PM |
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Well said farceofnature! |
ultraist |
Apr-03-05 03:02 PM |
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this line of reasoning is ridiculous and untenable |
FarceOfNature |
Apr-03-05 01:49 PM |
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While cautioning against social bias you show your own. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-03-05 07:47 PM |
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'No Time For Bullies' demonstrates the power of role modeling influence. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-04-05 02:22 PM |
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Role modeling is one of many reasons why I dread a WesClark presidency. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-04-05 02:37 PM |
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Funny the article made me think of the Clark Presidency as well. |
mzmolly |
Apr-06-05 11:23 AM |
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Great post, Great reply! Herein lies the crux of the prob! |
hue |
Apr-03-05 01:22 PM |
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Republicans think it's because kids aren't "spanked/disciplined" |
mzmolly |
Apr-06-05 11:31 AM |
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The Fifth "P" has this to say about emotional distance: |
beam me up scottie |
Apr-02-05 07:57 PM |
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No wonder we have "issues" |
mzmolly |
Apr-02-05 08:19 PM |
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Oh yeah! |
beam me up scottie |
Apr-02-05 08:44 PM |
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The 5th P--lack of empathy |
hue |
Apr-03-05 01:29 PM |
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Other research supports the claims of Kaufman |
ultraist |
Apr-02-05 08:52 PM |
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The male-culture military |
Karenina |
Apr-04-05 02:33 PM |
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they forgot to mention the eighth "P" . . . penis . . . |
OneBlueSky |
Apr-03-05 01:08 AM |
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Kick. |
BlueIris |
Apr-03-05 01:59 AM |
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In any flawed system |
buddyhollysghost |
Apr-03-05 03:29 AM |
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awesome lyrics buddyhollysghost! |
ultraist |
Apr-03-05 01:51 PM |
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Thanks ultraist! |
buddyhollysghost |
Apr-03-05 08:13 PM |
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Kick again. |
BlueIris |
Apr-03-05 04:37 AM |
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Interesting article, but it omits |
entanglement |
Apr-03-05 06:40 AM |
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Interesting. |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 10:11 AM |
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While the article doesn't exactly give a time frame... |
bloom |
Apr-03-05 02:15 PM |
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The article explores one component: socialization |
ultraist |
Apr-03-05 02:33 PM |
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Kick! |
Karenina |
Apr-03-05 07:12 AM |
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Ending patriarchy as we know it. |
Senior citizen |
Apr-03-05 10:05 AM |
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Good point. |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 10:14 AM |
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Amen. And humane human beings at that. n/t |
Senior citizen |
Apr-03-05 10:16 AM |
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Amen and AMEN! |
mzmolly |
Apr-03-05 10:55 AM |
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This is a nice thread. |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 11:00 AM |
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Aw shucks. |
mzmolly |
Apr-03-05 12:54 PM |
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WHAT matriachal social structures? |
ultraist |
Apr-03-05 02:56 PM |
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That seems a bit too extreme, no? |
Placebo |
Apr-03-05 03:59 PM |
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Umm, you make one crucial |
entanglement |
Apr-04-05 04:48 AM |
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Gender roles have NO biological basis whatsoever. |
Senior citizen |
Apr-04-05 10:15 PM |
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kick one more time |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-03-05 12:02 PM |
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kick |
purji |
Apr-03-05 12:36 PM |
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This is really interesting on so many levels |
bloom |
Apr-03-05 01:31 PM |
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So he's going to do all the shopping? |
Senior citizen |
Apr-03-05 02:14 PM |
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To some extent... |
bloom |
Apr-03-05 02:33 PM |
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I love this! |
mzmolly |
Apr-03-05 05:39 PM |
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Yikes! |
mzmolly |
Apr-03-05 02:29 PM |
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His 7 "P"s: |
bloom |
Apr-03-05 02:28 PM |
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Thanks for boiling it down. |
mzmolly |
Apr-03-05 02:39 PM |
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If one through four are pretty solely in the male realm, |
Senior citizen |
Apr-03-05 04:13 PM |
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heh |
bloom |
Apr-03-05 04:35 PM |
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Well, since there are a gazillion unemployed guys who would |
Senior citizen |
Apr-03-05 05:27 PM |
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ROTFLMAO! |
mzmolly |
Apr-03-05 05:45 PM |
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Bonnie Erbe on this subject...
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bloom |
Apr-04-05 12:51 PM |
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What an excellent point. |
mzmolly |
Apr-03-05 05:42 PM |
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Violence glorified... |
bloom |
Apr-06-05 12:13 PM |
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Very good article |
DawgHouse |
Apr-03-05 02:43 PM |
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The best feminist book I've ever read... |
shockra |
Apr-04-05 02:44 AM |
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Wow, sounds like an excellent read. |
mzmolly |
Apr-04-05 12:28 PM |
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Men are threatened by other men, not women. Good point. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-04-05 03:29 PM |
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I love this post. |
bloom |
Apr-06-05 11:17 AM |
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more typical anti-male sexist propaganda |
cheezus |
Apr-06-05 11:59 AM |
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Now exactly WHO, but your BEST friend |
Karenina |
Apr-06-05 01:37 PM |
#110 |
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