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93. I'm not that thin. And the mullet. It only LOOKS like a mullet.
I've never worn a mullet in my LIFE.

Still, I know what you mean. Here's an example of a truly brave author:

Kitty Kelley does more work researching one book than Corporate McPravda in all its work for the past 42 years combined

Don't mess with the Bushes

In her new book, Kitty Kelley shows how the first family intimidates those who've tried to expose the clan's dark secrets of drugs, drinking, womanizing and nepotism. Now, she tells Salon, they're coming after her.


While the Camp David coke party is getting the headlines, Kelley's book is filled with many other tawdry stories about the Bush dynasty. Here is a family that looks "like 'The Donna Reed Show,' and then you see it's 'The Sopranos,'" Kelley tells Salon in the interview below. As Kelley tells it, the dynasty had respectable origins -- in the form of family patriarch Prescott Bush, the distinguished, moderate Republican senator from Connecticut -- but rapidly slid into cynical opportunism, skulduggery, and a mean-spirited sense of entitlement. The first President Bush is presented as a weak yes man, driven not by political vision but a savage preppy spirit of competition instilled in him by his whirlwind of a mother. But it is his wife, Barbara (whom the ex-wife of White House counsel C. Boyden Gray calls "bull-dyke tough"), and their eldest son, George, who are the true pieces of work in Kelley's book, a mother and son team brimming with such spite and ambition they would give the ruthless duo in "The Manchurian Candidate" the shivers. In one of the creepier passages of the book, a family gathering from hell at Kennebunkport, Maine, Barbara is shown mercilessly baiting her dry-drunk son, then governor of Texas, as a teetotaling "Chosen One," while he keeps pleading to skip the cocktails and put on the feed bag, and his elderly father "drools over Paula Zahn's legs."


But, as one of W.'s Yalie frat brothers tells Kelley, it's not the substance abuse in Bush's past that's disturbing, it's the "lack of substance ... Georgie, as we called him, had absolutely no intellectual curiosity about anything. He wasn't interested in ideas or in books or causes. He didn't travel; he didn't read the newspapers; he didn't watch the news; he didn't even go to the movies. How anyone got out of Yale without developing some interest in the world besides booze and sports stuns me." New Yorker writer Brendan Gill recalls roaming the Kennebunkport compound one night while staying there looking for a book to read -- the only title he could find was "The Fart Book."

According to Kelley, the Bushes aggressively maintain their all-American family image by scrubbing government files of embarrassing facts, stonewalling journalists, and terrorizing critics. "Some people felt that George's past did not seep out and embarrass him and his family," she writes of the White House's current Bush, "because he was protected by a coterie of former CIA men with an allegiance to his father." An Austin, Texas, political consultant named Peck Young told Kelley that when a woman claiming to have been a call girl from Midland showed up in Austin with "intimate knowledge" of W. during his oil wildcatting days, she was approached by what she described as "intelligence types" and left town abruptly. According to Young, the men "made her realize that it was better to turn tricks in Midland than to stop breathing."


(KITTY KELLEY ON SHARON BUSH): I don't know; my guess is she's scared. Over that lunch we had in New York she did tell me that her husband, Neil Bush, had left her a message on the phone machine saying if you continue with you might find yourself in a dark alley. And she said that in front of Lou Colasuonno. She talked about everything with me that day, mostly about the breakup of her marriage, and how the Bushes don't have family values. And she said to me that the affair that Neil had that broke up her marriage was aided and abetted by his parents, Barbara and George. She was crying and crying and she said, "They let him have an affair. And I called up Barbara and threw myself on her mercy and said please, please tell him to come back home." And I said, "How can his mother tell him to come back to his wife?" And she said, "You don't understand -- they'll do anything she tells them." But she said her mother-in-law wouldn't do that, she was cold as ice. And she cried, "You'd think Barbara would have been more sympathetic to me, considering all the infidelities she's had to put up with."


That Kitty Kelley is an army of one, for real.

Me? Those who know me in real life think I'm better as a memory.

A vague memory.
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  - Go to Gore  Octafish   Apr-01-05 10:17 AM   #50 
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  - Kick and Thank you  concord   Apr-01-05 05:53 PM   #65 
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  - kick  there-s a   Apr-01-05 06:25 PM   #66 
  - Kick.  bobthedrummer   Apr-01-05 08:47 PM   #67 
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     - Dear god, that photo gave me the chills and brought tears to my  kk897   Apr-02-05 07:58 AM   #81 
        - I'm sorry, kk897.  Octafish   Apr-02-05 08:37 AM   #83 
           - No need to apologize. I'm "glad" that I'm the "sadder but wiser woman"  kk897   Apr-02-05 09:47 AM   #84 
  - Great job!  Hotler   Apr-02-05 10:56 AM   #85 
  - Wow! Thanks. Here's the entire set. I can't take credit...  Octafish   Apr-02-05 06:48 PM   #91 
     - You knocked a future shock crowbar upside my head  seemslikeadream   Apr-02-05 07:40 PM   #92 
        - I'm not that thin. And the mullet. It only LOOKS like a mullet.  Octafish   Apr-02-05 10:56 PM   #93 
  - Kick into Sunday.  oasis   Apr-02-05 03:10 PM   #86 
  - kicking up again and thank you Octafish! You Rock!  anarchy1999   Apr-02-05 03:52 PM   #87 
     - Gracias, amigos! Remember FRANK CHURCH...  Octafish   Apr-03-05 09:42 AM   #96 
  - kick  lonestarnot   Apr-03-05 09:27 AM   #95 
  - Thanks, l-not! Hey! Abbie Hoffman and OCTOBER SURPRISE are in the news!  Octafish   Apr-05-05 09:08 PM   #100 
  - Catherine Austin Fitts  RBHam   Apr-05-05 02:38 PM   #99 
  - Ol' Ruppert may be on to something: Safety in Numbers.  Octafish   Apr-05-05 09:28 PM   #101 
  - kick  Swamp Rat   Apr-06-05 01:27 AM   #102 

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