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23. I didn't believe it BUT I don't know what false info was given to

Kerry and others in Congress. Kerry has the clout and connections to talk to a lot of people and I seem to remember reading that he did talk to others to get more info on what was going on in Iraq. According to what I read, he sought out specific people, people he thought were more informed than he, to question.

It's foolish to argue that Kerry is stupid as there is evidence to the contrary, so whatever he was told must have been pretty compelling.

And it's not about him "believing Bush*," it's about other people who were believed.

I could say "I don't care, he should have known better" but I didn't have to vote on this issue and I don't know what info those who did vote had that I didn't, and still don't, have.

Initially, I didn't think I could vote for Kerry, Edwards, Lieberman, or Graham because of their votes on the war, but that could leave me with only Bush* to vote for and I KNOW I'm not doing that.

I am supporting the one man in the race who voted against the war in Congress, Dennis Kucinich. He got it right.

But if he doesn't get the nomination, I may have to support someone who got it wrong. It's either that or the man who started the war, isn't it?
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  -TEXT FROM THE SPEECH JOHN KERRY MADE ON THE SENATE FLOOR khephra  Sep-13-03 12:02 AM   #0 
  - "I yield the floor"  sfecap   Sep-13-03 12:06 AM   #1 
  - I demand an explanation. Now.  janx   Sep-13-03 12:09 AM   #2 
  - Isn't it protocol to say he's finished and giving the floor  Clete   Sep-13-03 12:10 AM   #3 
  - yes it is  khephra   Sep-13-03 12:40 AM   #6 
  - they are joking  Uzybone   Sep-13-03 07:00 PM   #56 
  - "Having the Floor" means being the one whose turn it is to speak  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-13-03 12:50 AM   #8 
  - apparently his uniform no longer fit.............  virtualobserver   Sep-13-03 12:10 AM   #4 
  - Should never trust a liar John, even if he is pResident.  Old and In the Way   Sep-13-03 12:24 AM   #5 
  - What a Phoney  MrPrax   Sep-13-03 12:50 AM   #7 
  - Kerry is a liar, or worse, a fool  IndianaGreen   Sep-13-03 09:34 AM   #27 
  - "I will support a multilateral effort to disarm him by force, IF we  oasis   Sep-13-03 01:05 AM   #9 
  - Kerry was a big boy  Pastiche423   Sep-13-03 01:29 AM   #10 
  - ""He fucked up and is not apologetic about it.  khephra   Sep-13-03 01:32 AM   #11 
  - What a second....I don't think I typed the above msg  khephra   Sep-13-03 01:43 AM   #12 
  - Yes..........that's it.......  KoKo01   Sep-13-03 05:31 AM   #18 
  - Should our elected people be second guessing intelligence?  Old and In the Way   Sep-13-03 02:03 AM   #13 
  - Who else will look after intelligence failures...John Ashcroft?  Terwilliger   Sep-13-03 02:57 AM   #14 
  - Exactly, who does Congress turn to?  Old and In the Way   Sep-13-03 11:35 AM   #34 
  - One hundred and thirty three  Pastiche423   Sep-13-03 03:33 PM   #53 
  - Not apologetic? I believe Kerry's recent statements are the basis  oasis   Sep-13-03 04:30 AM   #16 
  - of course he is not apologetic  Cheswick   Sep-13-03 05:56 AM   #21 
  - "The Hutton Report" seems to be putting Blair more in Bush's Camp than we  KoKo01   Sep-13-03 05:55 AM   #20 
  - Kerry has also said...  HPLeft   Sep-13-03 10:24 PM   #59 
     - I hope Kerry wasn't stupid enough to have said that.  Mechatanketra   Sep-14-03 02:09 PM   #62 
  - I'm not a Kerry supporter but you're forgetting what Karl Rove was pushing  sgr2   Sep-13-03 03:58 AM   #15 
  - The part where Kerry went along with it........  virtualobserver   Sep-13-03 05:31 AM   #17 
  - I didn't believe it BUT I don't know what false info was given to  DemBones DemBones   Sep-13-03 06:15 AM   #23 
     - of course, but now is the time to support someone who got it right.  virtualobserver   Sep-13-03 06:45 AM   #24 
     - DemBones......surprisingly......Graham voted against the Invasion, also!  KoKo01   Sep-13-03 09:31 AM   #26 
     - You could support Dean, Braun or Clark or even Sharpton. NONE of them  seventhson   Sep-13-03 10:18 AM   #29 
  - bush lied to all of us....my lie-o-meter went off as did those of millions  Cheswick   Sep-13-03 06:02 AM   #22 
     - Not only that, but this speech was made to quiet Byrd  gottaB   Sep-13-03 08:34 AM   #25 
        - What you say is true. Those of us who watched the hearings were surprised  KoKo01   Sep-13-03 09:38 AM   #28 
        - Baloney...Kerry and Byrd are very respectful of each other.  blm   Sep-13-03 02:30 PM   #46 
           - Of Course Byrd said it wasn't personal, but....  gottaB   Sep-13-03 06:58 PM   #55 
              - Byrd knows the process.  blm   Sep-13-03 09:14 PM   #58 
  - Twice in the speech returning Kuwati property is mentioned. Odd...  KoKo01   Sep-13-03 05:41 AM   #19 
  - Yep - Kerry's a Prevaricating Fascist. Anyone seen Kurosawa's "Dreams"?  seventhson   Sep-13-03 10:33 AM   #30 
  - "Kurosawa's Dreams" is starting right now on PBS  Dude_CalmDown   Sep-13-03 07:10 PM   #57 
  - It's from the ORIGINAL UN Resolution that was supposed to be enforced.  blm   Sep-13-03 10:38 AM   #31 
     - BLM: If we went to war to restore Kuwati property....which is what Kerry  KoKo01   Sep-13-03 01:01 PM   #37 
        - He only knew what Clinton was shown...and it must  blm   Sep-13-03 01:06 PM   #38 
  - OMG. DEAN'S POSITION WAS ONLY SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT!  blm   Sep-13-03 11:02 AM   #32 
  - Only the Vote counts. Dean did NOT vote for it. KERRY DID!!! So...  seventhson   Sep-13-03 11:18 AM   #33 
  - In spite of your foul representation of Dean,  Old and In the Way   Sep-13-03 11:39 AM   #35 
  - I do NOT represent Dean and if Dean were to say BOO to me about  seventhson   Sep-13-03 11:57 AM   #36 
  - Dean said he would have VOTED FOR it, if he could.  blm   Sep-13-03 01:09 PM   #39 
  - That calls for a link (n/t)  goobergunch   Sep-13-03 01:12 PM   #40 
     - Here ya go....  blm   Sep-13-03 02:27 PM   #45 
        - I interpret this...  goobergunch   Sep-13-03 02:31 PM   #47 
           - Probably because that is what it says.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Sep-13-03 02:38 PM   #48 
           - It does not.  blm   Sep-13-03 02:46 PM   #51 
           - Yes...Biden-Lugar was authorization of force to disarm Iraq  blm   Sep-13-03 02:42 PM   #49 
              - Bush took issue with those slight differences.....  wuushew   Sep-13-03 10:38 PM   #60 
                 - Yes...but the REASONS and the results would have been the same.  blm   Sep-14-03 10:42 AM   #61 
  - LOL did Dean get to vote on this?  nothingshocksmeanymore   Sep-13-03 02:27 PM   #44 
     - I guess this means Dean never voted against the tax cuts either...  PurityOfEssence   Sep-13-03 05:50 PM   #54 
  - Text of Biden-Lugar Substitute  goobergunch   Sep-13-03 01:34 PM   #42 
     - Remember "Make 'em show their cards?"  RUMMYisFROSTED   Sep-13-03 02:45 PM   #50 
        - Bush would have shown the minimum requirement  blm   Sep-13-03 02:53 PM   #52 
  - Thanks Keph for posting this!  goobergunch   Sep-13-03 01:15 PM   #41 
  - Kerry Voted To Disarm Iraq, Not To Support Incompetence  DrFunkenstein   Sep-13-03 02:20 PM   #43 
 

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