IrateCitizen
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Wed Mar-16-05 10:33 AM
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| 61. CMSM just amplifies it. It's always been there, Susan. |
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Back around the turn of the century, there wasn't any TV or radio, but people still flocked to see the vulgar displays of Billy Sunday and other fundamentalist preachers who simply filled their heads full of what they should simply believe and left no room for critical thought.
If Kant noticed it back in the late 18th century, then it certainly has been a constant. People, as a rule, don't like to think, because thinking is so damned HARD. It means that you have to try and make sense out of a complex and chaotic world. Why trouble yourself with such endeavors when you can get someone to just tell you what to believe and what to reject, and give it to you wrapped up in a nice neat box?
I've come to see DU at times as like a modern-day enlightenment project. Sure, we get our fair share of meaningless drivel here, but every once in a while we get a discussion that really spurs people to think in greater detail about the world around them. In effect, at times these forums act like an online "salon" in the tradition of 18th century France.
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| -The Decadence and Downfall of Modern American Society |
IrateCitizen |
Mar-15-05 09:42 AM |
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Nominated |
ck4829 |
Mar-15-05 09:44 AM |
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thanks for this |
Butterflies |
Mar-15-05 10:02 AM |
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Good job! |
flygal |
Mar-15-05 10:05 AM |
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Look at that! |
H2O Man |
Mar-15-05 10:10 AM |
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great post |
NewJeffCT |
Mar-15-05 10:11 AM |
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Regarding "groupthink"... |
IrateCitizen |
Mar-15-05 10:16 AM |
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well, it is changing a bit here in CT |
NewJeffCT |
Mar-15-05 10:35 AM |
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There are certainly pockets of resistance about... |
IrateCitizen |
Mar-15-05 10:57 AM |
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Here are a few online resources |
starroute |
Mar-15-05 10:13 AM |
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the Insight link didn't work for me |
NewJeffCT |
Mar-15-05 10:36 AM |
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The article is widely reproduced online |
starroute |
Mar-15-05 12:17 PM |
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bravo |
Protagoras |
Mar-15-05 10:15 AM |
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BWAHAHAHA! That's a good one! |
IrateCitizen |
Mar-15-05 10:19 AM |
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It's terrifying |
Protagoras |
Mar-15-05 10:22 AM |
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Yeah, well it's a lonely business being the few sane people left... |
IrateCitizen |
Mar-15-05 10:26 AM |
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ah yes: where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise.... |
unblock |
Mar-15-05 11:18 AM |
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That's a damned good quote, unblock! Too true, as well. (nt) |
IrateCitizen |
Mar-15-05 11:35 AM |
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it's from thomas gray, ode on a distant prospect of eton college |
unblock |
Mar-15-05 12:21 PM |
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I'm afraid I agree with that assessment |
tom_paine |
Mar-15-05 10:33 AM |
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First off. It should start with "Ahh Teyull Yooo Wut" |
SoCalDem |
Mar-16-05 07:16 AM |
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Well said, by God! |
seawolf |
Mar-15-05 10:19 AM |
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Welcome to DU, seawolf! |
IrateCitizen |
Mar-15-05 10:22 AM |
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Hey there mate-y. |
Hoping4Change |
Mar-15-05 12:34 PM |
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What frightens me is that the U.S. *does* have huge military power |
Logansquare |
Mar-15-05 10:37 AM |
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If the US "nukes the court", then the US will end as well... |
IrateCitizen |
Mar-15-05 10:43 AM |
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God, I hope you're right n/t |
Logansquare |
Mar-15-05 10:46 AM |
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The USSR didn't "nuke the court" for those very reasons... |
IrateCitizen |
Mar-15-05 10:48 AM |
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America's glory days are over |
raccoon |
Mar-15-05 10:48 AM |
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damned excellent analysis. |
ulysses |
Mar-15-05 10:55 AM |
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Color me.. |
sendero |
Mar-15-05 11:09 AM |
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Sensational Post! |
Beetwasher |
Mar-15-05 11:39 AM |
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Self-aggrandizing KICK! |
IrateCitizen |
Mar-15-05 12:01 PM |
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Americans are clinging to a notion of a "Golden Age" reclaimed. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-15-05 12:08 PM |
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Very perceptive and dry, |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Mar-15-05 02:34 PM |
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Brilliant post iratecitizen. Thank you for taking time to compose |
Hoping4Change |
Mar-15-05 12:38 PM |
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A question about manufacturing |
DrGonzoLives |
Mar-15-05 12:43 PM |
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Perhaps I should have said "industrial capacity" instead... |
IrateCitizen |
Mar-15-05 12:47 PM |
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Point taken |
DrGonzoLives |
Mar-15-05 12:53 PM |
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But there's a different way of looking at it than that, Doc... |
IrateCitizen |
Mar-15-05 01:06 PM |
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All those investments |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Mar-15-05 02:38 PM |
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You just summed up in one single sentence.... |
IrateCitizen |
Mar-15-05 02:40 PM |
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Thank you, IrateCitizen. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Mar-15-05 03:52 PM |
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Great analysis, but there is one false assumption... |
Emboldened Chimp |
Mar-15-05 01:26 PM |
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Oh, I'm far from saying that Americans as a whole... |
IrateCitizen |
Mar-15-05 01:32 PM |
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If you read, then you are a threat to those that don't |
Ezlivin |
Mar-15-05 02:20 PM |
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Yeah, ignorance is the new cool.... |
IrateCitizen |
Mar-15-05 02:39 PM |
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Thank you IrateCitizen for your excellent essay! |
anarchy1999 |
Mar-16-05 09:36 AM |
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I'm always tempted to confront people like that... |
IrateCitizen |
Mar-16-05 10:29 AM |
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There's a Middle Eastern saying about progress and decline. . . |
DinahMoeHum |
Mar-15-05 02:03 PM |
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Brilliant, Dinah. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Mar-15-05 02:43 PM |
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kick |
PROGRESSIVE1 |
Mar-15-05 02:25 PM |
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Good essay. Thanks for book recommendations. |
Pooka Fey |
Mar-15-05 03:07 PM |
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Too many opt for the blue pill, drink the Kool Aid, |
kaitykaity |
Mar-15-05 03:59 PM |
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Number one post for sure. |
0007 |
Mar-15-05 07:28 PM |
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Nice! and this Kant quote thrown in....sort of says it all... |
KoKo01 |
Mar-15-05 07:42 PM |
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BTW...my feeling is folks aren't lazy. It's that our CMSM takes advantage |
KoKo01 |
Mar-15-05 07:46 PM |
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CMSM just amplifies it. It's always been there, Susan. |
IrateCitizen |
Mar-16-05 10:33 AM |
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Nominate & Kick nt. |
achtung_circus |
Mar-15-05 08:14 PM |
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It's a sure bet we won't see THIS thread quoted in a conservative column.. |
RandomKoolzip |
Mar-16-05 12:22 AM |
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. |
IrateCitizen |
Mar-16-05 08:34 AM |
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Excellent post... |
LeftHander |
Mar-16-05 08:51 AM |
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