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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 12:29 PM
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14. apparently the ACLU has addressed this in a different form
Edited on Fri Mar-11-05 12:37 PM by jdj
Over the years, the ACLU continued to receive complaints from women that the court decision was not being followed by the DMV, resulting in lengthy correspondence to Division officials about the complaints. The problem finally seemed to disappear in the 21st Century, but last November, a resident complained to the ACLU about information appearing on the DMVs web site.

In the FAQ section of the web site, one of the questions answered is, What do I need to do if I have changed my name? The web site falsely advises individuals they must first have their name changed with the Social Security Administration and present their new Social Security card to the Registry in order to obtain a new license. RI ACLU executive director Steven Brown immediately wrote DMV Administrator Charles Dolan about the false advice, but eight months later, has still not received a response. The inaccurate information continues to appear on the Registrys web site.

The ACLUs letter acknowledged that the Registry may require (and, we believe, used to require) an affidavit from the person acknowledging that the name change is non-fraudulent, for example, and some minimal evidence indicating that the person is in fact using the new name for other purposes. However, a requirement that she provide a Social Security card with the new name is no different from the Registrys illegal requirement struck down by the court in 1979.

The ACLUs Brown said today: We have to wonder how many women are unnecessarily following the DMVs inaccurate advice in order to have their name changed on their license. Surely this 25th anniversary is an opportune time for the DMV to finally get it right and to revise its web site to reflect the law.

this was a 1977 case, it's hard to tell if you can extrapolate from this one to the current problem.

(so I guess the ACLU "did something good for a change", and 30 years ago at that)
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  -Georgia Woman told to GET A DIVORCE (can't renew her driver's license) pbartch  Mar-11-05 12:07 PM   #0 
  - is this story for real???  rodeodance   Mar-11-05 12:11 PM   #1 
  - Well.....go to the website. I provided the URL.  pbartch   Mar-11-05 12:14 PM   #3 
  - It doesn't make sense - but I could be missing something  Disfronted   Mar-11-05 12:14 PM   #4 
  - Why doesn't she just change her name w/ Social Security?  Disfronted   Mar-11-05 12:13 PM   #2 
  - That is what is being left out of the story  bloom   Mar-11-05 12:49 PM   #22 
  - the are also hooking up SS, the DMV, the DOC, and HHS  jdj   Mar-11-05 12:15 PM   #5 
  - Nah. A good Republican woman would have changed her name  Bunny   Mar-11-05 12:17 PM   #7 
     - I've visited the site. I think it's like militia or something.  jdj   Mar-11-05 12:25 PM   #11 
  - A fearful population is an open invitation to tyranny.  brindis_desala   Mar-11-05 12:17 PM   #6 
  - you know, I'm not quite sure about this.  jdj   Mar-11-05 12:29 PM   #13 
  - You better watch out buddy....MEN ARE HAVING PROBLEMS TOO!!!!  pbartch   Mar-11-05 12:36 PM   #17 
  - I am a woman, why do people always assume postors  jdj   Mar-11-05 12:38 PM   #18 
  - It's not like she could not fix the problem easily  Disfronted   Mar-11-05 12:49 PM   #21 
     - you are NOT SUPPOSED to change your name when you marry  pbartch   Mar-11-05 12:59 PM   #24 
     - yes, even the Social Security site doesn't mention it as being a  jdj   Mar-11-05 01:06 PM   #28 
     - I didn't say it was a legal requirement  Disfronted   Mar-11-05 01:11 PM   #32 
     - You knew what I meant  Disfronted   Mar-11-05 01:08 PM   #31 
     - You think I'm a mind reader? Nope I'm not. You said something like  pbartch   Mar-11-05 01:26 PM   #35 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-11-05 01:29 PM   #36 
     - I was told it is  ohio_liberal   Mar-11-05 01:11 PM   #33 
     - Something I'm wondering  FreedomAngel82   Mar-11-05 01:07 PM   #30 
  - All that is true but it should have nothing to do with getting  brindis_desala   Mar-11-05 01:58 PM   #39 
  - I got several IRS notices after I married because  cally   Mar-11-05 02:12 PM   #41 
  - apparently the ACLU has addressed this in a different form  jdj   Mar-11-05 12:29 PM   #14 
  - Best idea -- keep your birth name  DELUSIONAL   Mar-11-05 12:17 PM   #8 
  -'re right. Keep whatever name you're born with.  pbartch   Mar-11-05 12:48 PM   #20 
     - Same here --  DELUSIONAL   Mar-11-05 04:20 PM   #42 
        - I kept my maiden name as well, and it has prevented all these  Nay   Mar-11-05 05:33 PM   #45 
  - When my parents divorced after 20+ years of marriage  beyurslf   Mar-11-05 12:18 PM   #9 
  - their taking ideas from a handmaids tale  Niccolo_Macchiavelli   Mar-11-05 12:19 PM   #10 
  - A Handmaid's Tale meets The Onion, perhaps  slackmaster   Mar-11-05 12:35 PM   #15 
  - Funny how this was posted about the same time  Redstone   Mar-11-05 12:26 PM   #12 
  - I may be wrong but  DulceDecorum   Mar-11-05 12:36 PM   #16 
  - Whoo-Hoo! Liberty *and* Family Values are on the march!!  CornField   Mar-11-05 12:45 PM   #19 
  - One of my aunts had a similar problem  jmm   Mar-11-05 12:56 PM   #23 
  - See.......What I said. MILLIONS of people are gonna be affected  pbartch   Mar-11-05 01:04 PM   #26 
  - I really don't understand why people are surprised about this  jdj   Mar-11-05 01:05 PM   #27 
  - Thanks -- this was what I had read about women's work records & SS  DELUSIONAL   Mar-11-05 04:26 PM   #43 
  - Patriot Act  HockeyMom   Mar-11-05 01:03 PM   #25 
  - why don't you just deposit at the ATM?  Scout   Mar-11-05 01:51 PM   #38 
  - Yes my husband and I have had a similar problem.  DELUSIONAL   Mar-11-05 04:30 PM   #44 
  - Sounds to me...  WillowTree   Mar-11-05 01:07 PM   #29 
  - I have a close friend...  ljm2002   Mar-11-05 01:18 PM   #34 
  - you can change your name on your social security card....  Scout   Mar-11-05 01:40 PM   #37 
  - I had a similar problem when I was first married.  SW FL Dem   Mar-11-05 02:04 PM   #40 
  - pbartch  Moderator   Mar-11-05 06:26 PM   #46 

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