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Tue Mar-08-05 11:01 AM
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| 16. Yay, someone else gets it |
| -Nicola Calipari and the Soldier who Shot Him |
WilliamPitt |
Mar-08-05 10:25 AM |
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I disagree -- the intend was the kill the journalist and send a message |
DELUSIONAL |
Mar-08-05 10:32 AM |
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This is just too perfect. nt |
Llewlladdwr |
Mar-08-05 11:09 AM |
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I Agree Will........ |
stewert |
Mar-08-05 10:33 AM |
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What is the driver saying, haven't heard anything from him. |
illflem |
Mar-08-05 10:34 AM |
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According to an Italian Official...... |
rovespuppet |
Mar-08-05 10:35 AM |
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Gianfranco Fini |
Frederik |
Mar-08-05 05:58 PM |
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Thanks Will for giving us some perspective. |
Auntie Bush |
Mar-08-05 10:35 AM |
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WTF would they target a journalist and some intelligence officers? |
bozeman |
Mar-08-05 10:39 AM |
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Yes, the US military would NEVER target non-embeddded Journalists... |
UdoKier |
Mar-08-05 11:44 AM |
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Actually that number is 73 dead.... n/t |
walldude |
Mar-08-05 12:10 PM |
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Sorry, silly me. |
UdoKier |
Mar-08-05 12:30 PM |
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Why target either Calipari, Sgrena or both? |
tuckessee |
Mar-08-05 05:22 PM |
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Yes, but if they want you dead, and yet |
AchtungToddler |
Mar-08-05 10:39 AM |
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Thank you Will. |
bklyncowgirl |
Mar-08-05 10:41 AM |
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I don't think you can assume that failure to complete a job |
Stirk |
Mar-08-05 10:43 AM |
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I don't buy this. She was exposing illegal weapons used by |
leesa |
Mar-08-05 10:43 AM |
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"incompetance/scared soldier" |
bloom |
Mar-08-05 10:58 AM |
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I'm not sure I take her perspective as fact |
WilliamPitt |
Mar-08-05 11:02 AM |
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The US doesn't even have a version |
bloom |
Mar-08-05 11:12 AM |
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To be sure |
WilliamPitt |
Mar-08-05 11:19 AM |
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From another reporter |
bloom |
Mar-08-05 12:34 PM |
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"Stop or you will be shot." |
dubyadubya3 |
Mar-08-05 05:08 PM |
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I found the Christian Science Monitor to be a reputable source during the |
DemBones DemBones |
Mar-09-05 08:39 PM |
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standard line in plausable deniablity |
bpilgrim |
Mar-08-05 11:37 AM |
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It would look a little more conspicuous |
Frederik |
Mar-08-05 06:01 PM |
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The conspiracy theory simply doesn't add up |
aaronnyc |
Mar-08-05 11:05 AM |
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see post #15 |
bpilgrim |
Mar-08-05 11:32 AM |
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Good post |
OKNancy |
Mar-08-05 06:33 PM |
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Excellent Points |
Spinoza |
Mar-08-05 07:00 PM |
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The "focus" should be that our troops are murdering civilians. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-08-05 10:47 AM |
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excellent point |
bpilgrim |
Mar-08-05 11:02 AM |
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No, just ignoring the argument at hand in order to say what we already |
DS1 |
Mar-08-05 01:12 PM |
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that point ISN'T being made though it should be |
bpilgrim |
Mar-08-05 04:27 PM |
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I'm with you, Tierra_y_Libertad |
magellan |
Mar-08-05 11:15 AM |
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I don't agree. |
bloom |
Mar-08-05 10:54 AM |
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everyBODY makes mistakes... |
bpilgrim |
Mar-08-05 10:55 AM |
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if the operational cover was 'it was a tragic accident' then of course we |
bpilgrim |
Mar-08-05 11:00 AM |
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Wow |
WilliamPitt |
Mar-08-05 11:48 AM |
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US minder cuts off General at press conference about shot Italian reporter |
bpilgrim |
Mar-08-05 11:51 AM |
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In defense of the General..... |
rovespuppet |
Mar-08-05 12:07 PM |
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FYI: the BIGGEST problem is GETTING caught |
bpilgrim |
Mar-08-05 11:53 AM |
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now even Will Pitt is the enemy? |
Zuni |
Mar-08-05 06:35 PM |
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where did i say that? |
bpilgrim |
Mar-08-05 07:17 PM |
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will pit the Grand Poo-Bah of DU orthodoxy cops-out with a separate thread |
bpilgrim |
Mar-09-05 12:06 AM |
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Yay, someone else gets it |
DS1 |
Mar-08-05 11:01 AM |
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gets one possibility |
bpilgrim |
Mar-08-05 11:04 AM |
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Yes, but I don't think anyone here is arguing that point |
DS1 |
Mar-08-05 11:05 AM |
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The isse of the deliberateness of the attack is just one part of the story |
Malikshah |
Mar-08-05 11:04 AM |
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How dare you... |
Redneck Socialist |
Mar-08-05 11:14 AM |
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goin with yer gut, eh? |
bpilgrim |
Mar-08-05 11:21 AM |
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Initially, I was concerned this was a Blackwater ops-type of thing... |
Cooley Hurd |
Mar-08-05 11:16 AM |
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was this a coalition controlled airport they were going to? |
shadowknows69 |
Mar-08-05 12:05 PM |
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Both valid points. |
Cooley Hurd |
Mar-08-05 12:35 PM |
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Yes |
Frederik |
Mar-08-05 06:24 PM |
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Why would the US Military be so worried about already printed |
Zuni |
Mar-08-05 06:38 PM |
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Not to mention the small fact that EVERYTHING this criminal |
TankLV |
Mar-08-05 09:18 PM |
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Name removed |
Mar-08-05 11:27 AM |
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Meaningless nonsense |
WilliamPitt |
Mar-08-05 11:41 AM |
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i hope you share your thoughts on post #15 |
bpilgrim |
Mar-08-05 11:43 AM |
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It takes me a long time to write entire essays, and even paragraphs... |
hunter |
Mar-08-05 12:29 PM |
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"William Pitt spouting Jeff Gannon style military porn" |
WilliamPitt |
Mar-08-05 01:05 PM |
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Yes, I am an insensitive jerk. I apologize. |
hunter |
Mar-08-05 01:19 PM |
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William Pitt is about as opposite of Gannon as one can get |
donheld |
Mar-08-05 06:08 PM |
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And, as much as I admire Will, he is NOT PERFECT by any means. |
TankLV |
Mar-08-05 09:24 PM |
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crap |
Zuni |
Mar-08-05 06:34 PM |
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STRONGLY DISAGREE. I believe it was the stories she was working on |
clem_c_rock |
Mar-08-05 11:51 AM |
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thanks for the links |
Zuni |
Mar-08-05 06:42 PM |
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Well 3 out of 5 links maybe so, but are you trying to say |
clem_c_rock |
Mar-08-05 08:14 PM |
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I didn't say either was valid |
Zuni |
Mar-08-05 08:29 PM |
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You know what's interesting |
WilliamPitt |
Mar-08-05 11:55 AM |
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Because the msm has been focusing on |
missb |
Mar-08-05 12:04 PM |
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maybe that's because |
bpilgrim |
Mar-08-05 12:07 PM |
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I guess I just don't rise to your standards |
WilliamPitt |
Mar-08-05 12:08 PM |
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whatever |
bpilgrim |
Mar-08-05 12:12 PM |
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has the soldier who shot him been identified? |
Blue_Roses |
Mar-08-05 12:38 PM |
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Calipari |
Frederik |
Mar-08-05 06:29 PM |
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Why was a soldier trying to target Calipari? I don't know. But, what if |
KoKo01 |
Mar-09-05 12:41 AM |
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Maybe if I'd asked for an opinion |
WilliamPitt |
Mar-09-05 09:54 AM |
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You misunderstand. You didn't seem to be asking for a discussion |
KoKo01 |
Mar-09-05 10:18 AM |
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A gentle kick for "Was it a targeted hit? or are some folks into the |
KoKo01 |
Mar-09-05 07:28 PM |
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thanks will |
bpilgrim |
Mar-09-05 10:24 AM |
#125 |
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maybe the intent was to kill the negotiator |
shadowknows69 |
Mar-08-05 12:02 PM |
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That's one of the things |
WarNoMore |
Mar-08-05 12:31 PM |
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yeah, makes sense because |
Blue_Roses |
Mar-08-05 12:55 PM |
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Look at it this way: If journalists were targeted, would the whole Army.. |
Junkdrawer |
Mar-08-05 12:12 PM |
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The cell phones still have not turned up - why? A lot of other |
neweurope |
Mar-08-05 12:21 PM |
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"Nicola Calipari and the Soldier who Shot Him" |
Binka |
Mar-08-05 12:23 PM |
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I'm with you. |
Karenina |
Mar-08-05 12:39 PM |
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that's pretty interesting |
Blue_Roses |
Mar-08-05 12:50 PM |
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that seems a lot more plausible to me |
Zuni |
Mar-08-05 06:49 PM |
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VERY interesting. nt |
DemBones DemBones |
Mar-09-05 08:49 PM |
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Not sure what to think of this. |
walldude |
Mar-08-05 12:28 PM |
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My pet theory: |
SmokingJacket |
Mar-08-05 12:39 PM |
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Seems reasonable to me... |
Junkdrawer |
Mar-08-05 02:53 PM |
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The accounts conflict, it's pretty murky. If the B*sh administration |
Zorra |
Mar-08-05 12:50 PM |
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My theory given what we know. |
bklyncowgirl |
Mar-08-05 01:02 PM |
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"I feel confident in stating" and "My conclusion" |
Bluebear |
Mar-08-05 01:20 PM |
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I agree it was probably an accident. |
Sentinel Chicken |
Mar-08-05 01:24 PM |
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No matter what, it's a mess. |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Mar-08-05 01:27 PM |
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The constant lying by the ** Administration is causing the American people |
Pooka Fey |
Mar-08-05 03:36 PM |
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Bush lies all the time |
Zuni |
Mar-08-05 06:47 PM |
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Many on this thread have addressed your questions |
Pooka Fey |
Mar-08-05 09:31 PM |
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Wow. Great clarity in your thinking process |
tinonedown |
Mar-08-05 03:53 PM |
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Excellent analysis n/t |
John BigBootay |
Mar-08-05 04:00 PM |
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I think it's premature to be confident this was not intentional |
ultraist |
Mar-08-05 04:46 PM |
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you’re gone. Period. nicola is gone, period |
seabeyond |
Mar-08-05 05:34 PM |
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I'm not so sure, they do miss sometimes |
ultraist |
Mar-08-05 05:42 PM |
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the Bush Klan wouldn't do such a thing. |
seabeyond |
Mar-08-05 05:53 PM |
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It's sad...we probably will never really know |
ultraist |
Mar-08-05 09:36 PM |
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Will, I do have one question. |
TheWatcher |
Mar-08-05 05:49 PM |
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Foreign Minister contests US version |
Frederik |
Mar-08-05 06:20 PM |
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Interesting take but wrong. |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-08-05 06:26 PM |
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English translations of Sgrena's statements were inconsistent, |
Pooka Fey |
Mar-08-05 09:44 PM |
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Thanks. One would expect both? |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-10-05 02:04 AM |
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Awesome. Another multi-lingual American. That's always a good thing. |
Pooka Fey |
Mar-10-05 05:07 AM |
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Will this looks like what they call the "fog of war" |
donheld |
Mar-08-05 06:28 PM |
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I do not think she was targeted |
Zuni |
Mar-08-05 06:32 PM |
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Nicola Calipari and the Soldier who Shot Him" |
drjc1 |
Mar-08-05 06:47 PM |
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Damn right |
Spinoza |
Mar-08-05 07:09 PM |
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welcome drjc1! |
ultraist |
Mar-08-05 09:39 PM |
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One thing I haven't seen... |
Heyo |
Mar-08-05 06:55 PM |
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thats where the quote regarding the speed comes from "20mph" |
bpilgrim |
Mar-08-05 07:19 PM |
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I agree |
proud2Blib |
Mar-08-05 08:50 PM |
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Arriving at a definte conclusion either way seems to be |
Disturbed |
Mar-08-05 09:38 PM |
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exactly |
bpilgrim |
Mar-09-05 12:22 AM |
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Ah, Will - I'm a huge fan of yours, really I am |
Laurab |
Mar-08-05 10:35 PM |
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Special Ops unit directed directly from the Pentagon... |
RBHam |
Mar-08-05 10:41 PM |
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I have no idea if this is relevant, but the same day that story broke |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Mar-09-05 12:21 AM |
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Yes, that was an interesting connection. It's why many of us who saw |
KoKo01 |
Mar-09-05 12:48 AM |
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but of course that has no bearing here... |
bpilgrim |
Mar-09-05 12:49 AM |
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If You Can't Convince Them, Confuse Them-Harry S. Truman |
SpaceBuddy008 |
Mar-09-05 12:03 PM |
#126 |
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