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Tue Mar-01-05 10:10 PM
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| Poll question: If you were in a persistent vegetative state... |
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Would you wish to be kept alive as long as possible, at all costs, or would you wish to be removed from life support so you could pass on? I'm curious what DUers want for themselves. There seems to be a contingent who thinks that there is a good likelihood that Terri Schiavo wanted her body to be kept alive as long as possible. Personally, I've never met anyone who expressed that wish.
| Poll result (86 votes) | | Keep me alive at all costs for as long as possible |  (0 votes, 0%) | Vote | | Remove life support and let me go |  (86 votes, 100%) | Vote |
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| -If you were in a persistent vegetative state... |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 10:10 PM |
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I AM in a persistent vegetative state. |
leftofthedial |
Mar-01-05 10:11 PM |
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that's it... |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 10:12 PM |
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I won't tell the neotheocons |
leftofthedial |
Mar-01-05 10:44 PM |
#39 |
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I don't know that I'd want the plug pulled immediately... |
yvr girl |
Mar-01-05 10:12 PM |
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well |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 10:13 PM |
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His eyes are closed - pull the plug! |
AZCat |
Mar-01-05 10:15 PM |
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Granted. |
yvr girl |
Mar-01-05 10:22 PM |
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My response...and it is my wish now...if things go sideways |
Andy_Stephenson |
Mar-01-05 10:12 PM |
#4 |
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we have it in writing now! |
genevat |
Mar-01-05 10:31 PM |
#26 |
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Yes indeed it is. |
Andy_Stephenson |
Mar-01-05 10:39 PM |
#35 |
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we will, but.... |
genevat |
Mar-01-05 10:40 PM |
#36 |
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My son was on life support for a week....and we pulled the plug. |
Auntie Bush |
Mar-01-05 10:56 PM |
#43 |
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Aww |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 10:59 PM |
#45 |
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Maybe you should ask who among us would like to be |
lizzy |
Mar-01-05 10:13 PM |
#5 |
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It's just another form of life support |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 10:14 PM |
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If you are already dead...then you won't be uncomfortable starving. |
Auntie Bush |
Mar-01-05 10:24 PM |
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Or asphyxiated? The feeding tube is life support, just like a respirator |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 10:27 PM |
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If you are in a vegetative state, would you even know that you're hungry? |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Mar-02-05 12:16 AM |
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No |
Dookus |
Mar-02-05 12:19 AM |
#138 |
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Starved or plug pulled, its all good. |
Heaven and Earth |
Mar-01-05 10:15 PM |
#9 |
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I was hoping you'd ask, "Would you still vote for Bush?" |
Sabriel |
Mar-01-05 10:16 PM |
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Are her parents Christians? If they are... |
Auntie Bush |
Mar-01-05 10:16 PM |
#10 |
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If God truly wanted her |
traco |
Mar-01-05 11:19 PM |
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By that token, if god wanted her to live removing life support wouldn't |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:55 PM |
#110 |
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Mondo |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 11:57 PM |
#113 |
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Maybe, if they gave her a chance to see if she could swallow! |
traco |
Mar-01-05 11:58 PM |
#116 |
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They don't know for sure if she is in a persistent vegetative state |
ultraist |
Mar-01-05 10:18 PM |
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come on |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 10:22 PM |
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No, they don't know for sure. Medicine is NOT an exact science |
ultraist |
Mar-01-05 10:28 PM |
#21 |
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Yes I did |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 10:30 PM |
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Her cerebral cortex is GONE. Not damaged - GONE. |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 10:32 PM |
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Why are you two tag teaming my posts here and other the other thread? |
ultraist |
Mar-01-05 10:46 PM |
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The court record shows he's taken exceptional care of her |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 10:56 PM |
#42 |
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It was proven he took "adequate care" |
ultraist |
Mar-01-05 11:03 PM |
#49 |
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No, better than adequate. And she's not "handicapped". |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:08 PM |
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Who made that statement? Link? |
ultraist |
Mar-01-05 11:15 PM |
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Here you go - |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:17 PM |
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Which 2nd district opinion is that? There are numerous |
ultraist |
Mar-01-05 11:26 PM |
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Fine - live in your imagination. I'll stick with the facts. |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:36 PM |
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Mar-01-05 11:42 PM |
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When you want to talk facts, records, medicine I'm ready |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:46 PM |
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Mar-02-05 12:22 AM |
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Credible witnesses? |
traco |
Mar-01-05 11:24 PM |
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They were found credible and reliable in court - whereas the parents lied |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:38 PM |
#86 |
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we're not tag-teaming |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 10:57 PM |
#44 |
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Whatever. We have no say anyway |
ultraist |
Mar-01-05 11:10 PM |
#54 |
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You only suspect |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 11:12 PM |
#58 |
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No, we don't KNOW the parents don't really believe she wants to live |
ultraist |
Mar-01-05 11:20 PM |
#70 |
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The courts have heard both sides EVERY TIME and EVERY TIME found against |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:22 PM |
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Funny how you ignore the court case in favor of imagination |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:13 PM |
#59 |
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Whatever. I'm done with reading you twos insults. Grow up |
ultraist |
Mar-01-05 11:31 PM |
#80 |
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"I'm not listening LALALALALA" Fine. Don't listen to the facts. |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:41 PM |
#90 |
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Not to mention that the husband could simply walk away |
LittleClarkie |
Mar-01-05 11:08 PM |
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If he were my husband I wouldn't want him to walk away. |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:10 PM |
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How do we know for sure they're psycho |
LittleClarkie |
Mar-01-05 11:11 PM |
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Other than their testimony that they'd disregard her wishes ANYWAY? |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:16 PM |
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Credible news source on the issue please |
LittleClarkie |
Mar-01-05 11:20 PM |
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Here you go - link and all |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:31 PM |
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That journalists summary does not prove he has her best interest at heart |
ultraist |
Mar-01-05 11:40 PM |
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Why are you parroting |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 11:43 PM |
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I haven't read any right wing talking points on this at all. |
ultraist |
Mar-01-05 11:48 PM |
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Mar-01-05 11:45 PM |
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Mar-01-05 11:52 PM |
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Again, when you want to talk the facts of the case I'm here. |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:54 PM |
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If he were your husband |
traco |
Mar-01-05 11:28 PM |
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LOL |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 11:32 PM |
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She still is not "brain dead" |
traco |
Mar-01-05 11:47 PM |
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She has no cerebral cortex |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 11:56 PM |
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Have you personally examined her? |
traco |
Mar-02-05 12:01 AM |
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I haven't examined her |
Dookus |
Mar-02-05 12:10 AM |
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Yes. I'd want him to have a life. And "bastard children" indeed. |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:33 PM |
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My dad |
Feathered Fish |
Mar-01-05 10:19 PM |
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well |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 10:23 PM |
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My nurse friend who did hospice work said the more religious |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 10:24 PM |
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Maybe it's because they are afraid of going to hell. |
Auntie Bush |
Mar-01-05 10:29 PM |
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Their expectations are really high and |
Feathered Fish |
Mar-01-05 10:44 PM |
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Your friend told you? Oh that makes it fact then...whatever |
ultraist |
Mar-01-05 11:34 PM |
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No, it makes it her experience. |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:59 PM |
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I should be more clear |
Feathered Fish |
Mar-01-05 10:42 PM |
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I'm horrified to think someone could prevent my spouse from carrying out |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 10:23 PM |
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What if you were married to a nut... |
ultraist |
Mar-01-05 10:55 PM |
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Why would I marry a nut? |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:00 PM |
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Oh, that's a mature response |
ultraist |
Mar-01-05 11:46 PM |
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If someone marries a nut they have chosen poorly |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:48 PM |
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yes |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 11:01 PM |
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Feed me to the Soylent Green machine. |
Opposite Reaction |
Mar-01-05 10:25 PM |
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I work with comatose patients and wouldnt want to be ket like that. |
maveric |
Mar-01-05 10:29 PM |
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My instructions, both to my same-sex wife and in our legal papers |
Technowitch |
Mar-01-05 10:30 PM |
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Mine's similar, but I want my ashes shoved down Jerry Falwell's throat |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 10:33 PM |
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Because of this case, I drew up a living will. |
napi21 |
Mar-01-05 10:31 PM |
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Well |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 10:32 PM |
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Give me an overdose of painkillers, don't slowly starve me to death. |
Locut0s |
Mar-01-05 10:32 PM |
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alas |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 10:33 PM |
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Of course it's also true that some docs *accidentally* give a bit too much |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 10:34 PM |
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Yes |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 10:35 PM |
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Hey Dookus...maybe you should delete that post . Asscroft might be |
Auntie Bush |
Mar-01-05 11:08 PM |
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heheh |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 11:19 PM |
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A nice big shot of "Chiva" and I'll go with a smile. |
maveric |
Mar-01-05 10:36 PM |
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But they can't give you pain killers...if you don't have pain. |
Auntie Bush |
Mar-01-05 11:02 PM |
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I don't think this is a black and white issue |
LittleClarkie |
Mar-01-05 11:04 PM |
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She is on life support |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 11:11 PM |
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If he divorces her he |
traco |
Mar-01-05 11:33 PM |
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Ever able to walk again? WITHOUT A CEREBRAL CORTEX? |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:39 PM |
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You might want to brush up on your comprehension skills |
traco |
Mar-01-05 11:49 PM |
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That's even funnier! Talk without a cerebral cortex! |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:52 PM |
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Have you personally examined her? |
traco |
Mar-01-05 11:56 PM |
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No |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 11:59 PM |
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You can have an opinion all you want |
traco |
Mar-02-05 12:03 AM |
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And some people say the earth is flat. |
mondo joe |
Mar-02-05 12:05 AM |
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Do you have a citation |
Dookus |
Mar-02-05 12:06 AM |
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I don't have to. |
mondo joe |
Mar-02-05 12:00 AM |
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and they have differing opinions |
traco |
Mar-02-05 12:08 AM |
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The preponderance of medical opinion. |
mondo joe |
Mar-02-05 12:09 AM |
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what estate? |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 11:47 PM |
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An estate consists of more than money |
traco |
Mar-01-05 11:50 PM |
#102 |
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tell me |
Dookus |
Mar-02-05 12:00 AM |
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As I said |
traco |
Mar-02-05 12:09 AM |
#130 |
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What in their estate wouldn't have been spent on a decade in court |
mondo joe |
Mar-02-05 12:11 AM |
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You tell me. |
traco |
Mar-02-05 12:21 AM |
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It's your accusation about the estate - back it up baby! |
mondo joe |
Mar-02-05 12:25 AM |
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Anything that was purchased between the time they |
traco |
Mar-02-05 12:31 AM |
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Now explain |
Dookus |
Mar-02-05 12:34 AM |
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You see he has to kill her before she can wake up and talk enough to... |
mondo joe |
Mar-02-05 12:38 AM |
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He and jode are owners of an insurance company! |
traco |
Mar-02-05 12:46 AM |
#156 |
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Your imagination is not relevant |
mondo joe |
Mar-02-05 12:47 AM |
#157 |
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and your thoughts and feelings are relevant? LOL |
traco |
Mar-02-05 12:49 AM |
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No |
Dookus |
Mar-02-05 12:51 AM |
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I haven't claimed my feelings as anyone's motive. You have. |
mondo joe |
Mar-02-05 12:52 AM |
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You imagine |
Dookus |
Mar-02-05 12:50 AM |
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Minus any DEBT incurred. Forgot that, didn't you? |
mondo joe |
Mar-02-05 12:34 AM |
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And I'm asking you to tell |
Dookus |
Mar-02-05 12:11 AM |
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I dont happen to have access to his financial records to be |
traco |
Mar-02-05 12:23 AM |
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LOL |
Dookus |
Mar-02-05 12:26 AM |
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I'm not trying to put the burden on you |
traco |
Mar-02-05 12:33 AM |
#148 |
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Stop playing games |
Dookus |
Mar-02-05 12:36 AM |
#153 |
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Funny, that didn't stop you from making claims about it. |
mondo joe |
Mar-02-05 12:27 AM |
#146 |
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You are baiting me, trying to goad me into a fight |
traco |
Mar-02-05 12:47 AM |
#158 |
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I'm trying to goad you into backing up your accusations |
mondo joe |
Mar-02-05 12:49 AM |
#159 |
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goading you? |
Dookus |
Mar-02-05 12:52 AM |
#165 |
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It's now 60 to Zero |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 11:14 PM |
#60 |
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Yes. |
AZCat |
Mar-01-05 11:17 PM |
#65 |
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heheh... true |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 11:23 PM |
#74 |
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That statement would be ok if |
traco |
Mar-01-05 11:16 PM |
#63 |
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Wrong. The feeding tube is life support. |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:19 PM |
#66 |
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Have you read any of the other threads on this? |
AZCat |
Mar-01-05 11:19 PM |
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So it's ok for the side that wants her to die to |
traco |
Mar-01-05 11:44 PM |
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I don't want her to live or die. I want her choices respected. |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:50 PM |
#103 |
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We don't know what her choice was |
traco |
Mar-01-05 11:52 PM |
#107 |
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To the contrary, she chose Michael as her guardian, and she stated |
mondo joe |
Mar-01-05 11:58 PM |
#115 |
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The witnesses have a conflict of interest! |
traco |
Mar-02-05 12:05 AM |
#125 |
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The court found them credible. |
mondo joe |
Mar-02-05 12:06 AM |
#128 |
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What is my conflict of interest? |
traco |
Mar-02-05 12:13 AM |
#135 |
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Your conflict of interest |
mondo joe |
Mar-02-05 12:15 AM |
#136 |
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Not the same thing...conflict of interest is |
traco |
Mar-02-05 12:24 AM |
#142 |
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The witnesses don't benefit. |
mondo joe |
Mar-02-05 12:26 AM |
#145 |
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The brother and brother in law of the witnesses will benefit! |
traco |
Mar-02-05 12:34 AM |
#150 |
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What do they benefit? Be specific. |
mondo joe |
Mar-02-05 12:35 AM |
#152 |
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I'm done playing your little game! Enjoy your little |
traco |
Mar-02-05 12:51 AM |
#163 |
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If you can't back up your accusations that's a good option, I guess |
mondo joe |
Mar-02-05 12:53 AM |
#166 |
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Nice retreat |
Dookus |
Mar-02-05 12:53 AM |
#167 |
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Your statements were false |
AZCat |
Mar-01-05 11:51 PM |
#104 |
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I have investigated this |
traco |
Mar-01-05 11:54 PM |
#109 |
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Thankfully the court has a better understanding of the truth than you do |
AZCat |
Mar-01-05 11:57 PM |
#114 |
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Dookus: |
RandomKoolzip |
Mar-01-05 11:21 PM |
#72 |
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I'm sorry |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 11:27 PM |
#78 |
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You're right, but I must add a caveat: |
RandomKoolzip |
Mar-01-05 11:41 PM |
#89 |
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Exit, stage left. n/t |
Toucano |
Mar-01-05 11:26 PM |
#77 |
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Pull the plug |
NV Whino |
Mar-01-05 11:58 PM |
#117 |
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I don't know. |
Shadowen |
Mar-02-05 12:01 AM |
#123 |
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Yank the plug |
Solly Mack |
Mar-02-05 12:40 AM |
#155 |
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I told my daughter to let me go as soon as my girl are ALL OK with it... |
mordarlar |
Mar-02-05 01:00 AM |
#168 |
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So much wisdom in your post |
traco |
Mar-02-05 01:06 AM |
#170 |
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What makesk you think I'm not? |
autorank |
Mar-02-05 01:02 AM |
#169 |
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Locking |
Moderator |
Mar-02-05 01:09 AM |
#171 |
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