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Response to Reply #69
75. I'm saying that there's no proof that ANYONE was ever 'targeted'
Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 05:26 PM by Cuban_Liberal
It's amazing how people will cast aspersions on the exhaustive investigation the NTSB made, and pooh-pooh the mountains of evidence that back up their conclusions, but never provide so much as a shred of anything resembling proof of their own crackpot theories. as someone who's training to be a lawyer, I happen to think that little things like evidence, scientific analysis and proof matter.

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  -Wellstone assassination technology revealed Must_B_Free  Mar-01-05 12:18 PM   #0 
  - Sweet sufferin' Jesus on a pogo stick!  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 12:22 PM   #1 
  - Glad you said it...  no name no slogan   Mar-01-05 12:44 PM   #3 
  - Good God  Trailrider1951   Mar-01-05 12:44 PM   #2 
  - or their pacemaker, for example?  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 12:48 PM   #4 
  - Good questions! Let's ask someone with a pacemaker  No Exit   Mar-01-05 01:22 PM   #13 
     - All of the above...  KansDem   Mar-01-05 03:44 PM   #47 
     - Heh heh... you get an "A" for answering the question right!  No Exit   Mar-02-05 07:07 AM   #224 
     - Cheney?  liberalla   Mar-02-05 03:20 AM   #217 
        - *Gasp!*  No Exit   Mar-02-05 07:08 AM   #225 
  - You can already do that with, essentially,  Redstone   Mar-01-05 12:52 PM   #5 
  - As I said at the time - Wellstone died a year after the Pentagon demo'd  papau   Mar-01-05 12:58 PM   #6 
  - My sister (who is a teacher) and is a mathematical whiz . . .  frankly_fedup2   Mar-01-05 02:31 PM   #28 
  - you cannot control the weather with anything  FourStarDemocrat   Mar-01-05 03:25 PM   #36 
  - Weather as a Force Multiplier:Owning the Weather in 2025  seemslikeadream   Mar-01-05 03:33 PM   #41 
  - I'm just the messenger. My sister is not the conspiracy, government ...  frankly_fedup2   Mar-01-05 04:47 PM   #59 
  - The problem is that weather is a highly nonlinear system  AZCat   Mar-01-05 04:53 PM   #61 
     - Oh no, I didn't mean to imply worldwide. She never stated that. . .  frankly_fedup2   Mar-01-05 06:13 PM   #127 
  - Au contraire  bling bling   Mar-01-05 07:51 PM   #184 
  - Never say never... n/t  Starlight   Mar-01-05 11:47 PM   #214 
     - I didn't say never...I said not at this point..  FourStarDemocrat   Mar-02-05 05:02 AM   #219 
        - So you believe you are privy to all the latest government research?  Starlight   Mar-02-05 07:38 AM   #226 
           - I never said that I know everything..  FourStarDemocrat   Mar-02-05 06:22 PM   #247 
  - Doppler heart tests use sound waves  AngryAmish   Mar-01-05 04:20 PM   #55 
  - A Doppler test  Dave Reynolds   Mar-01-05 05:33 PM   #87 
  - "Scoff if you must".... why thanks, I will. She is full of it. n/t  Wrinkle_In_Time   Mar-01-05 08:50 PM   #196 
  - Love your avatar!  cat_girl25   Mar-01-05 10:46 PM   #205 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-02-05 06:27 AM   #223 
  - it's possible to retrofit engines with non-CPU ignition/fuel systems  ngant17   Mar-01-05 07:49 PM   #182 
  - Oh, puh-LEEZE!  Padraig18   Mar-01-05 01:01 PM   #7 
  - Oh I guess you're right...  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 01:07 PM   #9 
  - You bear the burden of proof here, Must_B_Free  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 01:19 PM   #11 
  - how was he  Dookus   Mar-01-05 01:20 PM   #12 
  - Wellstone carried the mantle for liberalism and populism -  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 03:02 PM   #33 
     - in some cases, yes  Dookus   Mar-01-05 04:52 PM   #60 
        - The loss of a Dem senator gave Repubs a majority-control of the Senate.  chelaque liberal   Mar-01-05 05:08 PM   #65 
           - It was not a foregone conclusion  Dookus   Mar-01-05 05:09 PM   #66 
           - The timing (10 days before the election?) made it virtually impossible  chelaque liberal   Mar-01-05 05:25 PM   #74 
              - I don't understand  Dookus   Mar-01-05 05:29 PM   #82 
                 - Virtually impossible to develop a campaign.  chelaque liberal   Mar-01-05 05:33 PM   #85 
                    - ok...  Dookus   Mar-01-05 05:35 PM   #88 
                    - The BS about the funeral hurt....  rinsd   Mar-01-05 06:14 PM   #129 
                    - and I think it's  Dookus   Mar-01-05 06:35 PM   #134 
                       - Okay, my computer is sprayed now!  Devlzown   Mar-01-05 09:46 PM   #202 
                    - Maybe it is just my gut feeling. Maybe that gut feeling comes  chelaque liberal   Mar-02-05 08:29 AM   #228 
                       - While capable of great evil, I don't think they're all-powerful.  Illinois_Dem   Mar-02-05 10:25 AM   #237 
                    - It was also impossible for a lot of the people who voted absentee  dflprincess   Mar-01-05 10:54 PM   #207 
           - As you said  fujiyama   Mar-02-05 04:20 AM   #218 
  - The plane crash was not 'unexplained'.  Padraig18   Mar-01-05 01:30 PM   #15 
  - padraig18- of all the "conspiracies" this one seems preety real  natrat   Mar-01-05 03:47 PM   #50 
  - Because you are mistaking an open mind for an uncritical mind. EOM  K-W   Mar-01-05 06:09 PM   #121 
  - That's what he said.  igil   Mar-01-05 04:56 PM   #62 
  - and after being personally threatened by Darth Cheney  burythehatchet   Mar-01-05 03:41 PM   #43 
  - It may not be a coincidence,  Goldmund   Mar-01-05 07:09 PM   #155 
  - Thank you, Sir Padraig,  Redstone   Mar-01-05 03:22 PM   #35 
  - Embrace The Tinfoil  dbt   Mar-01-05 01:02 PM   #8 
  - It's actually a conspiracy.  igil   Mar-01-05 04:58 PM   #63 
     - Aluminum is baaaaad. I thought too much "aluminum" exposure . . .  frankly_fedup2   Mar-01-05 08:35 PM   #189 
        - Ah, for the days when tinfoil was made of tin. n/t  igil   Mar-02-05 01:02 PM   #244 
  - The flip side of this story is  Sinistrous   Mar-01-05 01:16 PM   #10 
  - Let me lay a little more realistic theory on you  BillyDoc   Mar-01-05 01:27 PM   #14 
  - Amen to that  nolabels   Mar-01-05 02:32 PM   #29 
  - Not even tinfoil...just plain wrong  Jakey   Mar-01-05 03:11 PM   #34 
     - And history gets re-written again  BillyDoc   Mar-01-05 03:43 PM   #45 
        - I beg to differ sir...  Jakey   Mar-01-05 04:05 PM   #53 
           - So, OK, you're saying that  BillyDoc   Mar-01-05 04:47 PM   #58 
              - Almost there...  Jakey   Mar-01-05 05:46 PM   #100 
                 - No, no, no, no  Eloriel   Mar-01-05 06:58 PM   #148 
                    - Sorry but...  Jakey   Mar-01-05 07:33 PM   #175 
                       - Here's something that doesn't jive  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 10:23 PM   #203 
                          - "Special VFR"  Jakey   Mar-01-05 11:25 PM   #212 
  - 2 hypotheses are equally possible & reasonable  JackRiddler   Mar-01-05 01:44 PM   #16 
  - Except for one SMALL detail---- the NTSB investigation  Padraig18   Mar-01-05 01:46 PM   #17 
     - Yuck! The NTSB? Cover Up Central? Hee hee!  RBHam   Mar-01-05 01:53 PM   #18 
     - I've checked it out before.  Padraig18   Mar-01-05 01:55 PM   #19 
        - Professor James Fetzer  RBHam   Mar-01-05 01:58 PM   #20 
        - I used to be a member of his Yahoo group.  Padraig18   Mar-01-05 02:01 PM   #22 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-01-05 02:08 PM   #23 
              - You know what, RBHam? People died in plane crashes long before the BFEE  Padraig18   Mar-01-05 02:11 PM   #24 
                 - You don't get e-v-i-d-e-n-c-e  Eloriel   Mar-01-05 06:25 PM   #131 
        - You're right, but you forget:  T Town Jake   Mar-02-05 05:35 AM   #221 
           - Yea, and Iraq has WMD's  nolabels   Mar-02-05 09:37 AM   #232 
     - Did the NTSB investigation consider both hypotheses?  JackRiddler   Mar-01-05 02:14 PM   #25 
     - Have you read their report?  Padraig18   Mar-01-05 02:17 PM   #26 
        - If you look for the answer they feed you, you'll accept anything they say  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 03:32 PM   #40 
           - Once again, the better question is this:  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 03:49 PM   #51 
              - They failed to address any "unfriendly" circumstances  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 05:21 PM   #71 
                 - It's not a canard.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 05:29 PM   #81 
                    - Ok then by that logic,  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 05:44 PM   #98 
                       - Once again, Must_B_Free, YOU bear the burden of proof here.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 05:47 PM   #101 
                          - I am having difficulty understanding "Burden of Proof"  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 05:52 PM   #105 
                             - YOU are the one challenging their conclusions.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 05:58 PM   #108 
                                - As I said before, I am in agreement with all of their facts  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 06:04 PM   #114 
                                   - Point blank answer.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 06:06 PM   #117 
                                      - You are throwing some burden of proof on me, yet none on the NTSB  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 06:09 PM   #120 
                                         - No, wrong answer.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 06:11 PM   #124 
                                            - No it doesn't  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 06:48 PM   #143 
                                               - And your specualtion is more informed than the NTSB?  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 06:52 PM   #145 
                                                  - Thanks for playing, you just lost your case.  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 06:59 PM   #150 
                                                  - Thanks for playing, but I won.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 07:04 PM   #151 
                                                  - all you did was call names  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 07:08 PM   #154 
                                                  - Again, what about 'burden of proof' did I not make clear?  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 07:10 PM   #156 
                                                  - I think I successfully made the point that  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 07:15 PM   #159 
                                                  - I disagree with that statement.  AZCat   Mar-01-05 07:17 PM   #161 
                                                  - Indeed I do disgaree.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 07:19 PM   #164 
                                                  - challenging the physical evidence  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 07:30 PM   #172 
                                                  - This is really pointless, just like arguing with a stump would be.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 07:32 PM   #174 
                                                  - If you won then what did you win?  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 07:43 PM   #179 
                                                  - I won the good feeling I always get when I expose BS conspiracy theories  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 07:48 PM   #181 
                                                  - Really? you don't seem like you have good feelings  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 08:43 PM   #194 
     - Explained by the MSM! Wasn't it? Of course we must believe them!  Catamount   Mar-01-05 03:27 PM   #37 
     - The NTSB is not the MSM. n/t  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 03:29 PM   #39 
     - Padraig? What is the zealous attack against those looking at the case?  shance   Mar-01-05 05:42 PM   #96 
     - The NTSB said the Carnahan crash was "pilot error"  dflprincess   Mar-01-05 11:10 PM   #208 
  - AMERICAN ASSASSINATION: THE STRANGE DEATH OF PAUL WELLSTONE  seemslikeadream   Mar-01-05 02:01 PM   #21 
  - I highly recommend this book!  Starlight   Mar-02-05 02:50 AM   #216 
  - In a book describing the MiG25, I remember a passage  realpolitik   Mar-01-05 02:26 PM   #27 
  - But the NTSB would NEVER conceal the truth!  seemslikeadream   Mar-01-05 02:32 PM   #30 
  - I started this really lonely battle with good friend Senator Wellstone  seemslikeadream   Mar-01-05 02:50 PM   #31 
  - White House budget office thwarts EPA warning on asbestos-laced insulation  seemslikeadream   Mar-01-05 02:54 PM   #32 
  - There are no "chips" or electronics of any kind in the control surface  karlrschneider   Mar-01-05 03:29 PM   #38 
  - How dare you throw facts in the way of a perfectly good crank theory!  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 03:34 PM   #42 
  - You're now going to have to bring some facts  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 03:44 PM   #46 
     - Why should I have to?  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 03:45 PM   #48 
        - "Why should I have to?"  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 05:37 PM   #90 
           - Why don't you provide some evidence to back up your theory?  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 05:39 PM   #92 
              - All you've done is cite a report without citing an iota of its content.  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 05:48 PM   #102 
                 - Is there something about 'burden of proof' that I've failed to make clear?  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 05:51 PM   #104 
                    - I am asking you to show me where the Burden was Proven by NTSB  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 05:55 PM   #106 
                    - It's in their final report.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 05:59 PM   #109 
                       - So you can't articulate it then?  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 06:05 PM   #115 
                          - I don't play 'gotcha', Must_B_Free.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 06:08 PM   #119 
                             - No - the burden is on the NTSB to prove that their assertion is correct.  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 06:10 PM   #123 
                                - No.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 06:12 PM   #126 
                                   - No they didn't  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 06:33 PM   #133 
                                      - I'm not playing this bullshit game any more.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 06:35 PM   #135 
                                         - You never did play it  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 06:55 PM   #147 
                                            - And I'm supposed to accept your specualtion?  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 06:58 PM   #149 
                                               - you're only ridiculing yourself now...  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 07:04 PM   #152 
                                               - Sorry.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 07:06 PM   #153 
                                               - with name calling?  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 07:11 PM   #157 
                                               - No, by calling your posts rank speculation, which they are.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 07:14 PM   #158 
                                               - perhaps you need some context to better understand  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 07:23 PM   #167 
                                               - No, I dislike your theory because...  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 07:25 PM   #169 
                                               - But to do that would be to do you a disservice  AZCat   Mar-01-05 07:28 PM   #171 
                                               - I did read the report  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 07:50 PM   #183 
                                               - That's why they call it "probable cause"  AZCat   Mar-01-05 07:58 PM   #186 
                                               - Ok - Now it's "Probable" Cause?  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 08:52 PM   #197 
                                               - Please don't conflate posters  AZCat   Mar-01-05 09:00 PM   #199 
                    - Sorry, C_L  Eloriel   Mar-01-05 07:18 PM   #163 
                       - What's lacking in their report, Eloriel?  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 07:22 PM   #166 
                          - CL - their report speculates that the pilots caused the crash  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 08:08 PM   #188 
                             - I just want to say that I agree with your position  DemonFighterLives   Mar-01-05 10:53 PM   #206 
  - All it has to do is interfere with operation  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 03:43 PM   #44 
     - They suffered from a low-speed stall.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 03:46 PM   #49 
     - i dont think it has anything to do with "controll surfaces"  natrat   Mar-01-05 03:55 PM   #52 
     - It doesn't have electronic ignition  TrogL   Mar-01-05 05:02 PM   #64 
     - Have you ever been to northern Minnesota?  no name no slogan   Mar-01-05 04:12 PM   #54 
        - If you are blocking the truth because of your own denial, you should be  shance   Mar-01-05 05:15 PM   #67 
        - The assumption that 'the truth' has not been found is what's shameful.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 05:17 PM   #68 
        - Wow Cuban I SURE am glad you have the copyright on the truth here!!  shance   Mar-01-05 05:22 PM   #72 
           - Straw man.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 05:23 PM   #73 
              - Straw man??  shance   Mar-01-05 05:27 PM   #77 
              - If you'll look upthread, you'll find a link to the NTSB's report. n/t  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 05:30 PM   #83 
              - In what way is the NTSB's report  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 05:28 PM   #79 
                 - It doesn't work that way.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 05:31 PM   #84 
                    - What doesn't work that way?  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 05:39 PM   #91 
                       - The burden of proof.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 05:40 PM   #93 
                          - WHAT HARD EVIDENCE???? There IS no hard evidence.  shance   Mar-01-05 05:46 PM   #99 
                             - Oh yes there is.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 05:48 PM   #103 
                                - Go ahead and list one piece of all this HARD evidence  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 05:56 PM   #107 
                                   - Show us one piece of evidence that suports YOUR theory.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 06:00 PM   #112 
                                      - So how do I have a burden of proof when the NTSB dosn't?  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 06:07 PM   #118 
                                         - Yes, you do.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 06:09 PM   #122 
                                            - Here's my first piece of evidence:  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 06:12 PM   #125 
                                               - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-01-05 06:13 PM   #128 
        - Who's blocking the truth?  no name no slogan   Mar-01-05 06:38 PM   #139 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-01-05 07:17 PM   #162 
        - Thank you. I think that y'all that insist in conspiracy re: Wellstone's  latteromden   Mar-01-05 08:36 PM   #190 
        - I'm in MN  DemonFighterLives   Mar-01-05 10:43 PM   #204 
  - I think Bush and his pals are just....  chrisbur   Mar-01-05 04:20 PM   #56 
  - Yes, and their amazing luck  Eloriel   Mar-01-05 07:31 PM   #173 
     - That is my burden of proof.  Sterling   Mar-01-05 07:59 PM   #187 
        - I guess I'm just making trouble.  chrisbur   Mar-01-05 08:39 PM   #192 
  - Politicians who died in airplane crashes: link  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 04:27 PM   #57 
  - What is your point?  shance   Mar-01-05 05:20 PM   #69 
     - I'm saying that there's no proof that ANYONE was ever 'targeted'  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 05:26 PM   #75 
     - He doesn't have a point  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 05:26 PM   #76 
        - I have evidence, Must_B_Free  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 05:28 PM   #78 
           - Go ahead - we're still waiting for you to prove something, anything  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 05:29 PM   #80 
              - Sorry, but it doesn't work that way.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 05:33 PM   #86 
                 - How about I characterize my position and you character yours.  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 05:42 PM   #95 
                 - How about you provide something resembling proof.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 05:43 PM   #97 
                    - Where did I ever say I had proven anything?  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 05:59 PM   #110 
                       - The rules of logic dictate that you must.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 06:02 PM   #113 
                          - My evidence is that the NTSB didn't prove their assertion.  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 06:36 PM   #137 
                             - That's NOT evidence.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 06:38 PM   #138 
                                - law school?  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 06:51 PM   #144 
                                   - I anyone's made a fool of themselves, I can assure you it's not me.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 06:54 PM   #146 
                                      - more name calling  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 07:16 PM   #160 
                                         - It seems to be as much as you've posted.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 07:24 PM   #168 
                                            - A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 08:48 PM   #195 
                 - Wellstone was Definitely Targeted  chlamor   Mar-01-05 06:06 PM   #116 
                    - Politicians who died in air crashes  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 06:15 PM   #130 
                       - Not all plane crashes are alike  chlamor   Mar-01-05 06:33 PM   #132 
                          - "...it would be foolish for us to discount conspiracy ...."  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 06:36 PM   #136 
                             - Did the NTSB consider foul play?  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 08:42 PM   #193 
  - OK, until today I gave odds of 30% that Wellston was assassinated  IanDB1   Mar-01-05 05:20 PM   #70 
  - So, if the sight conditions forced an instrument landing  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 05:35 PM   #89 
  - 'woulda, coulda, shoulda'  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 05:41 PM   #94 
     - So, speculation is OK coming from the NTSB, but not from me?  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 06:39 PM   #140 
        - For the same reason...  AZCat   Mar-01-05 06:41 PM   #141 
        - How about speculation by a political doctor on a political issue?  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 07:34 PM   #176 
           - No, I wouldn't call it 'dubiously absent' at all.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 07:38 PM   #178 
           - I think the analogy falls apart there  AZCat   Mar-01-05 07:46 PM   #180 
        - No, I don't accept it from you.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 06:43 PM   #142 
           - logical flaw in your position  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 07:28 PM   #170 
              - Not a logical flaw.  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-01-05 07:35 PM   #177 
                 - I thought you were done talking to me  Must_B_Free   Mar-01-05 08:38 PM   #191 
                 - Cuban, you're exactly right (and have been throughout this thread), but...  T Town Jake   Mar-02-05 05:50 AM   #222 
                    - Sure glad you cleared it all up  DemonFighterLives   Mar-02-05 09:00 AM   #229 
                    - What an insightful quote!  Illinois_Dem   Mar-02-05 09:47 AM   #233 
  - Oops  ryan_cats   Mar-01-05 06:00 PM   #111 
  - There was one initial statement by the NTSB that has never been  DemocracyInaction   Mar-01-05 07:19 PM   #165 
  - Carmody's actual quote was...  Jakey   Mar-01-05 07:56 PM   #185 
     - I don't remember the exact details nor did I see the site  DemonFighterLives   Mar-01-05 11:17 PM   #209 
  - ...and the Inverse Square Law rolls its eyes.  Wrinkle_In_Time   Mar-01-05 08:58 PM   #198 
  - Folks, look at ways to fuck up an autolanding system  jmowreader   Mar-01-05 09:36 PM   #200 
  - DemoTex will know better than me, but...  AZCat   Mar-01-05 09:44 PM   #201 
     - OK, I'm more skeptical now than I was before. Count me at 31%  IanDB1   Mar-01-05 11:19 PM   #211 
     - There's nothing wrong with questioning an explanation  AZCat   Mar-01-05 11:38 PM   #213 
     - And a King Air uses mechanical flight-surface controls  jmowreader   Mar-02-05 08:19 AM   #227 
        - "What Would Wellstone Do" indeed  no name no slogan   Mar-02-05 09:15 AM   #230 
        - I don't understand why people NEED for this to be an assasination.  Illinois_Dem   Mar-02-05 10:02 AM   #234 
        - I know why  jmowreader   Mar-02-05 07:08 PM   #249 
        - Wellstone's change in travel plans was somewhat spur of the moment  dflprincess   Mar-02-05 08:13 PM   #251 
  - This has been around for decades. It's an EMP weapon.  porkrind   Mar-01-05 11:19 PM   #210 
  - EMP weapons are huge, clumsy messy things (even the non-nuclear ones)  IanDB1   Mar-01-05 11:52 PM   #215 
     - unless technology has advanced  rman   Mar-02-05 05:09 AM   #220 
  - Finally, a post I know a great deal about!  Illinois_Dem   Mar-02-05 09:26 AM   #231 
  - Thanks for your informative post  AZCat   Mar-02-05 10:09 AM   #235 
  - Thanks!  Illinois_Dem   Mar-02-05 10:13 AM   #236 
  - BEAUTIFUL post!  Padraig18   Mar-02-05 10:37 AM   #238 
  - Thank you!  Illinois_Dem   Mar-02-05 10:46 AM   #239 
     - PS  Padraig18   Mar-02-05 11:21 AM   #240 
        - That's very kind of you to say.  Illinois_Dem   Mar-02-05 02:57 PM   #245 
  - Hopping on the bandwagon...  no name no slogan   Mar-02-05 12:11 PM   #242 
  - I'm sorry for your loss.  Illinois_Dem   Mar-02-05 12:16 PM   #243 
  - Fantastic post!  Cuban_Liberal   Mar-02-05 05:39 PM   #246 
  - I'm gonna kick this for you.  Padraig18   Mar-02-05 06:53 PM   #248 
  - In the interest of accuracy...  Jakey   Mar-02-05 07:08 PM   #250 
  - Great post  fujiyama   Mar-03-05 02:44 AM   #252 
  - Fer Chrissakes, if you wanted to take down a single-engine plane,  Lone Pawn   Mar-02-05 11:27 AM   #241 
  - Odd it 'tis...  T Town Jake   Mar-03-05 09:22 AM   #253 
 

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