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Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 01:54 PM by RBHam
• NTSB’s Carol Carmody handled the Wellstone case. A former CIA official, she is a damage-control expert who handled the NTSB’s investigation of the suspicious aircraft crash of Missouri Governor Mel Carnahan during his race against Senator John Ashcroft two years earlier. • NTSB is legally mandated to take jurisdiction over a crash scene, yet they let the FBI take control. Yet in its official report, the NTSB failed to even mention any role by the FBI. • There was never any distress call from the pilots. There was a cessation of communication commensurate with loss of control. • Some witnesses heard the engines cutting out, a phenomenon not consistent with a stall. • Others reported odd cell-phone and garage-door phenomena that were taking place about the same time the plane lost communications and control. • The NTSB's own simulations, which replicated the weather, the flight, and the plane under similar conditions, were unable to bring it down—-even when they were conducted at abnormally slow speeds! • One of the members who actually signed the report, Richard Healing, admitted that the NTSB really had no idea what had caused the plane to crash. American Assassination http://www.assassinationscience.com/American_Assassinat... Here's a good read: The Assassinated Press EVIDENCE MOUNTS THAT PAUL WELLSTONE WAS MURDERED! DID DICK CHENEY GIVE THE ORDER? Ass. Press Semantics Alert---The Above Question Is Rhetorical. Point of View By JIM FETZER One man's opinion: Evidence indicates that Wellstone crash was no accident SPECIAL TO THE ASSASSINATED PRESS Posted on Thu, Nov. 20, 2003 Minnesota Sen. Paul Wellstone was a serious man who cared profoundly about his fellow citizens. He took courageous stands against an administration that he viewed with profound suspicion, arguing eloquently against tax cuts for the rich, the subversion of the Constitution, and violating international accords. He would have led the opposition to the war in Iraq if only he had had the chance. Everyone knew it and he may have died because of it. For nearly a year now, evidence has been accumulating about the event that ended the life of this magnificent human being. Whatever caused the crash was not the plane, the pilots or the weather. In spite of what you may have heard, the plane was exceptional, the pilots well-qualified and the weather posed no significant problems. Even the National Transportation Safety Board's own simulations of the plane, the pilots and the weather were unable to bring the plane down. This means we have to consider other, less palatable, alternatives, such as small bombs, gas canisters or electromagnetic pulse, radio frequency or High Energy Radio Frequency weapons designed to overwhelm electrical circuitry with an intense electromagnetic field. An abrupt cessation of communication between the plane and the tower took place at about 10:18 a.m., the same time an odd cell phone phenomenon occurred with a driver in the immediate vicinity. This suggests to me the most likely explanation is that one of our new electromagnetic weapons was employed. more... http://www.theassassinatedpress.com/fetzer.htm
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| -Wellstone assassination technology revealed |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 12:18 PM |
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Sweet sufferin' Jesus on a pogo stick! |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 12:22 PM |
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Glad you said it... |
no name no slogan |
Mar-01-05 12:44 PM |
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Good God |
Trailrider1951 |
Mar-01-05 12:44 PM |
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or their pacemaker, for example? |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 12:48 PM |
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Good questions! Let's ask someone with a pacemaker |
No Exit |
Mar-01-05 01:22 PM |
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All of the above... |
KansDem |
Mar-01-05 03:44 PM |
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Heh heh... you get an "A" for answering the question right! |
No Exit |
Mar-02-05 07:07 AM |
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Cheney? |
liberalla |
Mar-02-05 03:20 AM |
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*Gasp!* |
No Exit |
Mar-02-05 07:08 AM |
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You can already do that with, essentially, |
Redstone |
Mar-01-05 12:52 PM |
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As I said at the time - Wellstone died a year after the Pentagon demo'd |
papau |
Mar-01-05 12:58 PM |
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My sister (who is a teacher) and is a mathematical whiz . . . |
frankly_fedup2 |
Mar-01-05 02:31 PM |
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you cannot control the weather with anything |
FourStarDemocrat |
Mar-01-05 03:25 PM |
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Weather as a Force Multiplier:Owning the Weather in 2025 |
seemslikeadream |
Mar-01-05 03:33 PM |
#41 |
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I'm just the messenger. My sister is not the conspiracy, government ... |
frankly_fedup2 |
Mar-01-05 04:47 PM |
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The problem is that weather is a highly nonlinear system |
AZCat |
Mar-01-05 04:53 PM |
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Oh no, I didn't mean to imply worldwide. She never stated that. . . |
frankly_fedup2 |
Mar-01-05 06:13 PM |
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Au contraire |
bling bling |
Mar-01-05 07:51 PM |
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Never say never... n/t |
Starlight |
Mar-01-05 11:47 PM |
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I didn't say never...I said not at this point.. |
FourStarDemocrat |
Mar-02-05 05:02 AM |
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So you believe you are privy to all the latest government research? |
Starlight |
Mar-02-05 07:38 AM |
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I never said that I know everything.. |
FourStarDemocrat |
Mar-02-05 06:22 PM |
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Doppler heart tests use sound waves |
AngryAmish |
Mar-01-05 04:20 PM |
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A Doppler test |
Dave Reynolds |
Mar-01-05 05:33 PM |
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"Scoff if you must".... why thanks, I will. She is full of it. n/t |
Wrinkle_In_Time |
Mar-01-05 08:50 PM |
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Love your avatar! |
cat_girl25 |
Mar-01-05 10:46 PM |
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Mar-02-05 06:27 AM |
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it's possible to retrofit engines with non-CPU ignition/fuel systems |
ngant17 |
Mar-01-05 07:49 PM |
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Oh, puh-LEEZE! |
Padraig18 |
Mar-01-05 01:01 PM |
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Oh I guess you're right... |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 01:07 PM |
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You bear the burden of proof here, Must_B_Free |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 01:19 PM |
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how was he |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 01:20 PM |
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Wellstone carried the mantle for liberalism and populism - |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 03:02 PM |
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in some cases, yes |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 04:52 PM |
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The loss of a Dem senator gave Repubs a majority-control of the Senate. |
chelaque liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:08 PM |
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It was not a foregone conclusion |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 05:09 PM |
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The timing (10 days before the election?) made it virtually impossible |
chelaque liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:25 PM |
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I don't understand |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 05:29 PM |
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Virtually impossible to develop a campaign. |
chelaque liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:33 PM |
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ok... |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 05:35 PM |
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The BS about the funeral hurt.... |
rinsd |
Mar-01-05 06:14 PM |
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and I think it's |
Dookus |
Mar-01-05 06:35 PM |
#134 |
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Okay, my computer is sprayed now! |
Devlzown |
Mar-01-05 09:46 PM |
#202 |
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Maybe it is just my gut feeling. Maybe that gut feeling comes |
chelaque liberal |
Mar-02-05 08:29 AM |
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While capable of great evil, I don't think they're all-powerful. |
Illinois_Dem |
Mar-02-05 10:25 AM |
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It was also impossible for a lot of the people who voted absentee |
dflprincess |
Mar-01-05 10:54 PM |
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As you said |
fujiyama |
Mar-02-05 04:20 AM |
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The plane crash was not 'unexplained'. |
Padraig18 |
Mar-01-05 01:30 PM |
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padraig18- of all the "conspiracies" this one seems preety real |
natrat |
Mar-01-05 03:47 PM |
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Because you are mistaking an open mind for an uncritical mind. EOM |
K-W |
Mar-01-05 06:09 PM |
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That's what he said. |
igil |
Mar-01-05 04:56 PM |
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and after being personally threatened by Darth Cheney |
burythehatchet |
Mar-01-05 03:41 PM |
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It may not be a coincidence, |
Goldmund |
Mar-01-05 07:09 PM |
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Thank you, Sir Padraig, |
Redstone |
Mar-01-05 03:22 PM |
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Embrace The Tinfoil |
dbt |
Mar-01-05 01:02 PM |
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It's actually a conspiracy. |
igil |
Mar-01-05 04:58 PM |
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Aluminum is baaaaad. I thought too much "aluminum" exposure . . . |
frankly_fedup2 |
Mar-01-05 08:35 PM |
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Ah, for the days when tinfoil was made of tin. n/t |
igil |
Mar-02-05 01:02 PM |
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The flip side of this story is |
Sinistrous |
Mar-01-05 01:16 PM |
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Let me lay a little more realistic theory on you |
BillyDoc |
Mar-01-05 01:27 PM |
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Amen to that |
nolabels |
Mar-01-05 02:32 PM |
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Not even tinfoil...just plain wrong |
Jakey |
Mar-01-05 03:11 PM |
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And history gets re-written again |
BillyDoc |
Mar-01-05 03:43 PM |
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I beg to differ sir... |
Jakey |
Mar-01-05 04:05 PM |
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So, OK, you're saying that |
BillyDoc |
Mar-01-05 04:47 PM |
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Almost there... |
Jakey |
Mar-01-05 05:46 PM |
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No, no, no, no |
Eloriel |
Mar-01-05 06:58 PM |
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Sorry but... |
Jakey |
Mar-01-05 07:33 PM |
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Here's something that doesn't jive |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 10:23 PM |
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"Special VFR" |
Jakey |
Mar-01-05 11:25 PM |
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2 hypotheses are equally possible & reasonable |
JackRiddler |
Mar-01-05 01:44 PM |
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Except for one SMALL detail---- the NTSB investigation |
Padraig18 |
Mar-01-05 01:46 PM |
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Yuck! The NTSB? Cover Up Central? Hee hee! |
RBHam |
Mar-01-05 01:53 PM |
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I've checked it out before. |
Padraig18 |
Mar-01-05 01:55 PM |
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Professor James Fetzer |
RBHam |
Mar-01-05 01:58 PM |
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I used to be a member of his Yahoo group. |
Padraig18 |
Mar-01-05 02:01 PM |
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Mar-01-05 02:08 PM |
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You know what, RBHam? People died in plane crashes long before the BFEE |
Padraig18 |
Mar-01-05 02:11 PM |
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You don't get e-v-i-d-e-n-c-e |
Eloriel |
Mar-01-05 06:25 PM |
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You're right, but you forget: |
T Town Jake |
Mar-02-05 05:35 AM |
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Yea, and Iraq has WMD's |
nolabels |
Mar-02-05 09:37 AM |
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Did the NTSB investigation consider both hypotheses? |
JackRiddler |
Mar-01-05 02:14 PM |
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Have you read their report? |
Padraig18 |
Mar-01-05 02:17 PM |
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If you look for the answer they feed you, you'll accept anything they say |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 03:32 PM |
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Once again, the better question is this: |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 03:49 PM |
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They failed to address any "unfriendly" circumstances |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 05:21 PM |
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It's not a canard. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:29 PM |
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Ok then by that logic, |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 05:44 PM |
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Once again, Must_B_Free, YOU bear the burden of proof here. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:47 PM |
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I am having difficulty understanding "Burden of Proof" |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 05:52 PM |
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YOU are the one challenging their conclusions. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:58 PM |
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As I said before, I am in agreement with all of their facts |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 06:04 PM |
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Point blank answer. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 06:06 PM |
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You are throwing some burden of proof on me, yet none on the NTSB |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 06:09 PM |
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No, wrong answer. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 06:11 PM |
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No it doesn't |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 06:48 PM |
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And your specualtion is more informed than the NTSB? |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 06:52 PM |
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Thanks for playing, you just lost your case. |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 06:59 PM |
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Thanks for playing, but I won. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 07:04 PM |
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all you did was call names |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 07:08 PM |
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Again, what about 'burden of proof' did I not make clear? |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 07:10 PM |
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I think I successfully made the point that |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 07:15 PM |
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I disagree with that statement. |
AZCat |
Mar-01-05 07:17 PM |
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Indeed I do disgaree. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 07:19 PM |
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challenging the physical evidence |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 07:30 PM |
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This is really pointless, just like arguing with a stump would be. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 07:32 PM |
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If you won then what did you win? |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 07:43 PM |
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I won the good feeling I always get when I expose BS conspiracy theories |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 07:48 PM |
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Really? you don't seem like you have good feelings |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 08:43 PM |
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Explained by the MSM! Wasn't it? Of course we must believe them! |
Catamount |
Mar-01-05 03:27 PM |
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The NTSB is not the MSM. n/t |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 03:29 PM |
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Padraig? What is the zealous attack against those looking at the case? |
shance |
Mar-01-05 05:42 PM |
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The NTSB said the Carnahan crash was "pilot error" |
dflprincess |
Mar-01-05 11:10 PM |
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AMERICAN ASSASSINATION: THE STRANGE DEATH OF PAUL WELLSTONE |
seemslikeadream |
Mar-01-05 02:01 PM |
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I highly recommend this book! |
Starlight |
Mar-02-05 02:50 AM |
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In a book describing the MiG25, I remember a passage |
realpolitik |
Mar-01-05 02:26 PM |
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But the NTSB would NEVER conceal the truth! |
seemslikeadream |
Mar-01-05 02:32 PM |
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I started this really lonely battle with good friend Senator Wellstone |
seemslikeadream |
Mar-01-05 02:50 PM |
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White House budget office thwarts EPA warning on asbestos-laced insulation |
seemslikeadream |
Mar-01-05 02:54 PM |
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There are no "chips" or electronics of any kind in the control surface |
karlrschneider |
Mar-01-05 03:29 PM |
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How dare you throw facts in the way of a perfectly good crank theory! |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 03:34 PM |
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You're now going to have to bring some facts |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 03:44 PM |
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Why should I have to? |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 03:45 PM |
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"Why should I have to?" |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 05:37 PM |
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Why don't you provide some evidence to back up your theory? |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:39 PM |
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All you've done is cite a report without citing an iota of its content. |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 05:48 PM |
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Is there something about 'burden of proof' that I've failed to make clear? |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:51 PM |
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I am asking you to show me where the Burden was Proven by NTSB |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 05:55 PM |
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It's in their final report. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:59 PM |
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So you can't articulate it then? |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 06:05 PM |
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I don't play 'gotcha', Must_B_Free. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 06:08 PM |
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No - the burden is on the NTSB to prove that their assertion is correct. |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 06:10 PM |
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No. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 06:12 PM |
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No they didn't |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 06:33 PM |
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I'm not playing this bullshit game any more. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 06:35 PM |
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You never did play it |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 06:55 PM |
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And I'm supposed to accept your specualtion? |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 06:58 PM |
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you're only ridiculing yourself now... |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 07:04 PM |
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Sorry. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 07:06 PM |
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with name calling? |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 07:11 PM |
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No, by calling your posts rank speculation, which they are. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 07:14 PM |
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perhaps you need some context to better understand |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 07:23 PM |
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No, I dislike your theory because... |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 07:25 PM |
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But to do that would be to do you a disservice |
AZCat |
Mar-01-05 07:28 PM |
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I did read the report |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 07:50 PM |
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That's why they call it "probable cause" |
AZCat |
Mar-01-05 07:58 PM |
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Ok - Now it's "Probable" Cause? |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 08:52 PM |
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Please don't conflate posters |
AZCat |
Mar-01-05 09:00 PM |
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Sorry, C_L |
Eloriel |
Mar-01-05 07:18 PM |
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What's lacking in their report, Eloriel? |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 07:22 PM |
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CL - their report speculates that the pilots caused the crash |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 08:08 PM |
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I just want to say that I agree with your position |
DemonFighterLives |
Mar-01-05 10:53 PM |
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All it has to do is interfere with operation |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 03:43 PM |
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They suffered from a low-speed stall. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 03:46 PM |
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i dont think it has anything to do with "controll surfaces" |
natrat |
Mar-01-05 03:55 PM |
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It doesn't have electronic ignition |
TrogL |
Mar-01-05 05:02 PM |
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Have you ever been to northern Minnesota? |
no name no slogan |
Mar-01-05 04:12 PM |
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If you are blocking the truth because of your own denial, you should be |
shance |
Mar-01-05 05:15 PM |
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The assumption that 'the truth' has not been found is what's shameful. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:17 PM |
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Wow Cuban I SURE am glad you have the copyright on the truth here!! |
shance |
Mar-01-05 05:22 PM |
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Straw man. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:23 PM |
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Straw man?? |
shance |
Mar-01-05 05:27 PM |
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If you'll look upthread, you'll find a link to the NTSB's report. n/t |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:30 PM |
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In what way is the NTSB's report |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 05:28 PM |
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It doesn't work that way. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:31 PM |
#84 |
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What doesn't work that way? |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 05:39 PM |
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The burden of proof. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:40 PM |
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WHAT HARD EVIDENCE???? There IS no hard evidence. |
shance |
Mar-01-05 05:46 PM |
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Oh yes there is. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:48 PM |
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Go ahead and list one piece of all this HARD evidence |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 05:56 PM |
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Show us one piece of evidence that suports YOUR theory. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 06:00 PM |
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So how do I have a burden of proof when the NTSB dosn't? |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 06:07 PM |
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Yes, you do. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 06:09 PM |
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Here's my first piece of evidence: |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 06:12 PM |
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Mar-01-05 06:13 PM |
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Who's blocking the truth? |
no name no slogan |
Mar-01-05 06:38 PM |
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Mar-01-05 07:17 PM |
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Thank you. I think that y'all that insist in conspiracy re: Wellstone's |
latteromden |
Mar-01-05 08:36 PM |
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I'm in MN |
DemonFighterLives |
Mar-01-05 10:43 PM |
#204 |
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I think Bush and his pals are just.... |
chrisbur |
Mar-01-05 04:20 PM |
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Yes, and their amazing luck |
Eloriel |
Mar-01-05 07:31 PM |
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That is my burden of proof. |
Sterling |
Mar-01-05 07:59 PM |
#187 |
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I guess I'm just making trouble. |
chrisbur |
Mar-01-05 08:39 PM |
#192 |
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Politicians who died in airplane crashes: link |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 04:27 PM |
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What is your point? |
shance |
Mar-01-05 05:20 PM |
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I'm saying that there's no proof that ANYONE was ever 'targeted' |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:26 PM |
#75 |
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He doesn't have a point |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 05:26 PM |
#76 |
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I have evidence, Must_B_Free |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:28 PM |
#78 |
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Go ahead - we're still waiting for you to prove something, anything |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 05:29 PM |
#80 |
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Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:33 PM |
#86 |
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How about I characterize my position and you character yours. |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 05:42 PM |
#95 |
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How about you provide something resembling proof. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:43 PM |
#97 |
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Where did I ever say I had proven anything? |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 05:59 PM |
#110 |
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The rules of logic dictate that you must. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 06:02 PM |
#113 |
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My evidence is that the NTSB didn't prove their assertion. |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 06:36 PM |
#137 |
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That's NOT evidence. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 06:38 PM |
#138 |
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law school? |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 06:51 PM |
#144 |
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I anyone's made a fool of themselves, I can assure you it's not me. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 06:54 PM |
#146 |
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more name calling |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 07:16 PM |
#160 |
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It seems to be as much as you've posted. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 07:24 PM |
#168 |
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A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 08:48 PM |
#195 |
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Wellstone was Definitely Targeted |
chlamor |
Mar-01-05 06:06 PM |
#116 |
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Politicians who died in air crashes |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 06:15 PM |
#130 |
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Not all plane crashes are alike |
chlamor |
Mar-01-05 06:33 PM |
#132 |
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"...it would be foolish for us to discount conspiracy ...." |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 06:36 PM |
#136 |
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Did the NTSB consider foul play? |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 08:42 PM |
#193 |
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OK, until today I gave odds of 30% that Wellston was assassinated |
IanDB1 |
Mar-01-05 05:20 PM |
#70 |
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So, if the sight conditions forced an instrument landing |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 05:35 PM |
#89 |
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'woulda, coulda, shoulda' |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 05:41 PM |
#94 |
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So, speculation is OK coming from the NTSB, but not from me? |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 06:39 PM |
#140 |
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For the same reason... |
AZCat |
Mar-01-05 06:41 PM |
#141 |
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How about speculation by a political doctor on a political issue? |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 07:34 PM |
#176 |
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No, I wouldn't call it 'dubiously absent' at all. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 07:38 PM |
#178 |
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I think the analogy falls apart there |
AZCat |
Mar-01-05 07:46 PM |
#180 |
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No, I don't accept it from you. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 06:43 PM |
#142 |
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logical flaw in your position |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 07:28 PM |
#170 |
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Not a logical flaw. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-01-05 07:35 PM |
#177 |
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I thought you were done talking to me |
Must_B_Free |
Mar-01-05 08:38 PM |
#191 |
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Cuban, you're exactly right (and have been throughout this thread), but... |
T Town Jake |
Mar-02-05 05:50 AM |
#222 |
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Sure glad you cleared it all up |
DemonFighterLives |
Mar-02-05 09:00 AM |
#229 |
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What an insightful quote! |
Illinois_Dem |
Mar-02-05 09:47 AM |
#233 |
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Oops |
ryan_cats |
Mar-01-05 06:00 PM |
#111 |
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There was one initial statement by the NTSB that has never been |
DemocracyInaction |
Mar-01-05 07:19 PM |
#165 |
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Carmody's actual quote was... |
Jakey |
Mar-01-05 07:56 PM |
#185 |
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I don't remember the exact details nor did I see the site |
DemonFighterLives |
Mar-01-05 11:17 PM |
#209 |
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...and the Inverse Square Law rolls its eyes. |
Wrinkle_In_Time |
Mar-01-05 08:58 PM |
#198 |
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Folks, look at ways to fuck up an autolanding system |
jmowreader |
Mar-01-05 09:36 PM |
#200 |
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DemoTex will know better than me, but... |
AZCat |
Mar-01-05 09:44 PM |
#201 |
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OK, I'm more skeptical now than I was before. Count me at 31% |
IanDB1 |
Mar-01-05 11:19 PM |
#211 |
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There's nothing wrong with questioning an explanation |
AZCat |
Mar-01-05 11:38 PM |
#213 |
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And a King Air uses mechanical flight-surface controls |
jmowreader |
Mar-02-05 08:19 AM |
#227 |
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"What Would Wellstone Do" indeed |
no name no slogan |
Mar-02-05 09:15 AM |
#230 |
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I don't understand why people NEED for this to be an assasination. |
Illinois_Dem |
Mar-02-05 10:02 AM |
#234 |
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I know why |
jmowreader |
Mar-02-05 07:08 PM |
#249 |
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Wellstone's change in travel plans was somewhat spur of the moment |
dflprincess |
Mar-02-05 08:13 PM |
#251 |
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This has been around for decades. It's an EMP weapon. |
porkrind |
Mar-01-05 11:19 PM |
#210 |
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EMP weapons are huge, clumsy messy things (even the non-nuclear ones) |
IanDB1 |
Mar-01-05 11:52 PM |
#215 |
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unless technology has advanced |
rman |
Mar-02-05 05:09 AM |
#220 |
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Finally, a post I know a great deal about! |
Illinois_Dem |
Mar-02-05 09:26 AM |
#231 |
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Thanks for your informative post |
AZCat |
Mar-02-05 10:09 AM |
#235 |
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Thanks! |
Illinois_Dem |
Mar-02-05 10:13 AM |
#236 |
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BEAUTIFUL post! |
Padraig18 |
Mar-02-05 10:37 AM |
#238 |
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Thank you! |
Illinois_Dem |
Mar-02-05 10:46 AM |
#239 |
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PS |
Padraig18 |
Mar-02-05 11:21 AM |
#240 |
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That's very kind of you to say. |
Illinois_Dem |
Mar-02-05 02:57 PM |
#245 |
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Hopping on the bandwagon... |
no name no slogan |
Mar-02-05 12:11 PM |
#242 |
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I'm sorry for your loss. |
Illinois_Dem |
Mar-02-05 12:16 PM |
#243 |
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Fantastic post! |
Cuban_Liberal |
Mar-02-05 05:39 PM |
#246 |
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I'm gonna kick this for you. |
Padraig18 |
Mar-02-05 06:53 PM |
#248 |
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In the interest of accuracy... |
Jakey |
Mar-02-05 07:08 PM |
#250 |
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Great post |
fujiyama |
Mar-03-05 02:44 AM |
#252 |
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Fer Chrissakes, if you wanted to take down a single-engine plane, |
Lone Pawn |
Mar-02-05 11:27 AM |
#241 |
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Odd it 'tis... |
T Town Jake |
Mar-03-05 09:22 AM |
#253 |