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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 06:38 PM
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44. I really couldn't care less how economists define middle class.
I define it how *I* choose. If you don't have to choose between health insurance and paying for a college education for your kids, you are in the top 30 or 40% or so in this country, and you are WEALTHY. The only people who would say otherwise are people who live in such comfort themselves. It's not my concern whether people who earn an upper-middle income squander their money, or invest it. The point is, they have the choice. For the "other half", there is no choice, there is no investing. It's all most of us can do to stay afloat.
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  -Do you think the middle class is shrinking? holiday  Feb-26-05 08:58 AM   #0 
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  - jesus? don`t blame him,  madrchsod   Feb-26-05 09:49 AM   # 
  - Wanna bet?  The Zanti Regent   Feb-26-05 10:49 AM   #20 
     - Oh, dear kid, I am so sorry for your loss...  DARE to HOPE   Feb-26-05 11:18 AM   #22 
     - I wish I could believe you about churches.  The Zanti Regent   Feb-26-05 05:33 PM   #42 
        - How awful  FreedomAngel82   Feb-27-05 11:32 AM   #48 
     - No I'm afraid you are wrong...this is what people do to Jesus; continue  lonestarnot   Feb-26-05 11:21 AM   #23 
     - For you...  ultraist   Feb-26-05 04:35 PM   #35 
  - I disagree. It's Satan, pretending to be Jesus, who is brainwashing.  w4rma   Feb-26-05 04:55 PM   #40 
  - I see the fruit of Christianity  The Zanti Regent   Feb-26-05 05:44 PM   #43 
  - Oh, dear Zanti, how your pain pierces my heart...  DARE to HOPE   Feb-26-05 08:00 PM   #45 
  - I feel the same way about the Jesus freak Bible thumpers  ultraist   Feb-27-05 03:50 PM   #57 
  - Exactly  FreedomAngel82   Feb-27-05 11:34 AM   #49 
  - Please don't blame Jesus  FreedomAngel82   Feb-27-05 11:29 AM   #47 
  - They sure are. I've often heard the numbers on  Stirk   Feb-28-05 11:33 AM   #65 
  - By looking at job listings online and in the paper  Nikia   Feb-26-05 09:04 AM   #2 
  - most jobs are filled by personal reference.  stevebreeze   Feb-26-05 09:20 AM   #11 
  - The middle class is more than shrinking, it's being destroyed.  Stop_the_War   Feb-26-05 09:05 AM   #3 
  - The Downward Spiral- From Middle-Class To Poverty  spikesmom   Feb-26-05 09:40 AM   #13 
  - That's true, the USCB income stats prove it  ultraist   Feb-26-05 04:37 PM   #36 
     - Another thing to do  FreedomAngel82   Feb-27-05 11:37 AM   #50 
  - Yep. It's empirically provable.  TahitiNut   Feb-26-05 09:49 AM   #15 
     - It sure is. You can use the GINI or the Income Tables.  JanMichael   Feb-26-05 11:09 AM   #21 
     - I understand, but ...  TahitiNut   Feb-26-05 03:34 PM   #32 
        - I'm familiar with the 2nd graph. My point was that not all people are.  JanMichael   Feb-27-05 11:28 AM   #46 
     - It's even WORSE now than it was in 2001 , chart is dated  ultraist   Feb-26-05 04:38 PM   #37 
        - I agree. The 2002 numbers will be available next month.  TahitiNut   Feb-26-05 04:58 PM   #41 
           - Hard to tell from the size of the graph  Blue Wally   Feb-27-05 02:07 PM   #55 
              - Peaked at 0.429 in 1993, then at 0.435 in 2001.  TahitiNut   Feb-27-05 03:39 PM   #56 
                 - Hmmmmm  Blue Wally   Feb-27-05 03:53 PM   #58 
                    - Here ya go ...  TahitiNut   Feb-27-05 04:07 PM   #59 
                       - Bottom line  Blue Wally   Feb-27-05 04:17 PM   #61 
                          - Nonsense. That's about 80% circular reasoning and 20% hogwash.  TahitiNut   Feb-27-05 05:05 PM   #62 
                             - How do you define "good times"??  Blue Wally   Feb-28-05 09:59 AM   #63 
  - Easy ?> YES n/t  NicRic   Feb-26-05 09:10 AM   #4 
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  - The middle class has been thrust into working class economics  Warpy   Feb-26-05 09:10 AM   #6 
  - The rich just have a more sophisticated and less transparent way  BlueEyedSon   Feb-26-05 09:13 AM   #7 
  - in economic news just this week or two  stevebreeze   Feb-26-05 09:17 AM   #8 
  - IMO, the middle class is under attack  CindyDale   Feb-26-05 09:18 AM   #9 
  - Socialism..  solinvictus   Feb-26-05 09:19 AM   #10 
  - I'm always amazed at people who are so against government  CrispyQGirl   Feb-26-05 09:25 AM   #12 
  - I'm amazed at  FreedomAngel82   Feb-27-05 11:43 AM   #51 
  - As long as you have a Credit Card, you're "Middle Class"...  BiggJawn   Feb-26-05 09:42 AM   #14 
  - Sinclair's "The Jungle"  me b zola   Feb-26-05 11:28 AM   #25 
     - If they don't focus on the ratshit on the hams, they might.  BiggJawn   Feb-26-05 12:01 PM   #28 
  - i am making less than i did in 1979  madrchsod   Feb-26-05 09:54 AM   #16 
  - According to Reaganomics  yella_dawg   Feb-26-05 10:01 AM   #17 
  - This gang is determined to use up the dwindling pool as  CindyDale   Feb-26-05 10:20 AM   #18 
  - Yes, the middle class is shrinking.  bush_is_wacko   Feb-26-05 10:39 AM   #19 
  - Didn't I lately see something re shrink wrapping of large decomposing  lonestarnot   Feb-26-05 11:22 AM   #24 
     - shrink wrapping  me b zola   Feb-26-05 11:35 AM   #26 
        - Long thread here at DU...ask mods...n/t  lonestarnot   Feb-26-05 11:45 AM   #27 
           - I missed this. If you find out anything please post it. I would be  bush_is_wacko   Feb-26-05 12:37 PM   #31 
              - I can understand how someone might come up with such an idea  CindyDale   Feb-26-05 03:38 PM   #33 
                 - I have heard this line of thinking as well. I think there is a fine line  bush_is_wacko   Feb-26-05 04:33 PM   #34 
  - it's about 20% to 25% smaller than it was in 2000  leftofthedial   Feb-26-05 12:05 PM   #29 
  - Not doubting your numbers, but...  ultraist   Feb-26-05 04:42 PM   #38 
  - It has been shrinking since the late 70s or early 80s at least...  UdoKier   Feb-26-05 12:13 PM   #30 
  - The upper middle class are not "wealthy"  ultraist   Feb-26-05 04:46 PM   #39 
     - I really couldn't care less how economists define middle class.  UdoKier   Feb-26-05 06:38 PM   #44 
        - if you make 75k and and you live modestly  natrat   Feb-27-05 11:52 AM   #52 
        - I make $25K in San Francisco  UdoKier   Feb-27-05 01:42 PM   #53 
        - No, other people may choose to use the REAL definitions, not yours  ultraist   Feb-27-05 04:07 PM   #60 
           - The definitions economists use are NOT consistent.  UdoKier   Feb-28-05 11:13 AM   #64 
  - I was recently booted from that middle class...  Kazak   Feb-27-05 01:58 PM   #54 
  - Shrinking? Of course  independentchristian   Feb-28-05 06:13 PM   #66 
 

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