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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:50 PM
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8. Ummmm, this is accepting defeat.
How in the world do they expect to accomplish ANY of their goals without influencing the lawmakers? Sure, just jump ship and give it up, then. Let's see where the country is after a few more years of Republican control.

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  -Labor Should Stop Wasting Money On Democrats Says Union Leader Itsthetruth  Feb-23-05 01:41 PM   #0 
  - Yeah.. give it to the Republicans.. GOOD strategy for the masochistic. n/t  progressivebydesign   Feb-23-05 01:44 PM   #1 
  - Masochist, hell...  louis-t   Feb-23-05 01:45 PM   # 
  - That's Not What He Wrote!  Itsthetruth   Feb-23-05 01:47 PM   #5 
  - Please show where they suggest giving money to republicans  SheepBootHero   Feb-23-05 08:17 PM   #76 
  - FUCKING clowns, you don't know shit!!!  Zinfandel   Feb-23-05 11:33 PM   #82 
  - Until Democrats get back to supporting the working class  Sandpiper   Feb-23-05 01:45 PM   #2 
  - When organized labor can beat the right in elections again.  K-W   Feb-23-05 01:48 PM   #6 
  - right  aneerkoinos   Feb-23-05 02:00 PM   #16 
  - That is just completely wrong.  K-W   Feb-23-05 02:05 PM   #25 
  - libruls schmibruls  aneerkoinos   Feb-23-05 02:26 PM   #37 
  - You are the one with foolish hopes of utopia.  K-W   Feb-23-05 02:28 PM   #38 
     - Nah  aneerkoinos   Feb-23-05 02:51 PM   #45 
        - You are wrong on all counts.  K-W   Feb-23-05 02:56 PM   #46 
        - gloomy, moi? :D  aneerkoinos   Feb-23-05 03:27 PM   #54 
        - Post carbon society???  Blue Wally   Feb-23-05 04:08 PM   #59 
        - One problem  aneerkoinos   Feb-23-05 05:30 PM   #69 
           - Crap  Blue Wally   Feb-23-05 08:35 PM   #77 
              - Whatever  aneerkoinos   Feb-23-05 10:47 PM   #79 
        - Did you just call Cuba "relatively successful?"  B0S0X87   Feb-23-05 04:21 PM   #60 
           - Yep  aneerkoinos   Feb-23-05 05:39 PM   #70 
           - So you now live...?  fat free goodness   Feb-25-05 01:41 PM   #90 
           - It *is* relatively successful.  Stirk   Feb-24-05 01:23 AM   #87 
  - One reason the unions don't represent the working class anymore is  Lydia Leftcoast   Feb-23-05 11:10 PM   #80 
  - The DLC hasn't won anything worth having in nine Years!  saracat   Feb-24-05 01:59 AM   #88 
  - Voters don't control the US working class votes anymore  Vincardog   Feb-23-05 03:04 PM   #49 
  - How many union members voted Reagan, Bush? I heard, quite a few.  tsuki   Feb-23-05 04:39 PM   #65 
     - So much for solidarity!  BillORightsMan   Feb-23-05 07:24 PM   #73 
  - Maybe not, but...  RevolutionStartsNow   Feb-23-05 02:02 PM   #19 
  - its quite simple, candidates who vote labor over corps lose elections  K-W   Feb-23-05 02:07 PM   #28 
  - RevolutionStartsNow,  aneerkoinos   Feb-23-05 02:30 PM   #39 
     - If youve given up on the system, go start a revolution.  K-W   Feb-23-05 02:34 PM   #41 
     - No thanks  aneerkoinos   Feb-23-05 03:03 PM   #48 
     - My handle  RevolutionStartsNow   Feb-23-05 03:47 PM   #56 
  - You really believe that shit?  Stirk   Feb-23-05 11:57 PM   #85 
  - Xactly - it is all about the grassroots  xxqqqzme   Feb-23-05 01:55 PM   #12 
  - I agree :)  indianablue   Feb-23-05 04:22 PM   #61 
  - What a staggering ignorance of history.  K-W   Feb-23-05 01:45 PM   #3 
  - That isn't the argument at all  Sandpiper   Feb-23-05 01:50 PM   #10 
  - You should blame them. They are making a huge mistake.  K-W   Feb-23-05 01:57 PM   #14 
     - I'm not into killing the messenger  Sandpiper   Feb-23-05 02:01 PM   #17 
        - And I agree with that part of the argument fully.  K-W   Feb-23-05 02:13 PM   #30 
  - "new deal" Not a very good argument.  fat free goodness   Feb-23-05 02:04 PM   #23 
     - The system simply will not work like that.  K-W   Feb-23-05 02:18 PM   #31 
        - I think you missed my point.  fat free goodness   Feb-25-05 01:28 PM   #89 
  - Great idea. And after more states go Republican  Radical Activist   Feb-23-05 01:46 PM   #4 
  - Perhaps Democratic Party Should Support Labor  Itsthetruth   Feb-23-05 01:56 PM   #13 
     - Its a circular problem, pointing fingers is stupid.  K-W   Feb-23-05 01:59 PM   #15 
     - Traditional labor unions  Blue Wally   Feb-23-05 11:57 PM   #84 
     - You forgot about the Universal Healthcare sell-out  Sandpiper   Feb-23-05 02:06 PM   #27 
  - That is correct, labor needs its own political party and fast.....  whistle   Feb-23-05 01:48 PM   #7 
  - We dont have proportional representation, so that is an aweful idea.  K-W   Feb-23-05 01:50 PM   #9 
  - You just put your finger on what is totally wrong with the political  whistle   Feb-23-05 02:01 PM   #18 
     - Right, but theres only 2 ways to fix it.  K-W   Feb-23-05 02:22 PM   #32 
        - Back and forth, back and forth, like a tennis match....  whistle   Feb-23-05 02:32 PM   #40 
           - Fine, raise an army and overthrow the government and setup a parlimetary  K-W   Feb-23-05 02:37 PM   #42 
  - I agree.  sadiesworld   Feb-23-05 02:25 PM   #34 
     - check here:  rogerashton   Feb-23-05 04:35 PM   #63 
  - Ummmm, this is accepting defeat.  GOPBasher   Feb-23-05 01:50 PM   #8 
  - not too surprising  glenhein   Feb-23-05 01:54 PM   #11 
  - Welcome to DU, glenhein!  lastliberalintexas   Feb-23-05 02:02 PM   #20 
     - What's an RWer?  glenhein   Feb-23-05 03:57 PM   #58 
        - Rightwingers. n/t  jaredh   Feb-23-05 05:00 PM   #68 
  - They were right, until we put Dean in charge.  porphyrian   Feb-23-05 02:03 PM   #21 
  - Even with Dean in charge  Sandpiper   Feb-23-05 02:09 PM   #29 
     - Good point. - n/t  porphyrian   Feb-23-05 02:26 PM   #36 
     - I have to say..  girl gone mad   Feb-23-05 04:36 PM   #64 
  - I think this is a MAJOR idea. I LOVE IT!!! SIGN ME UP!!!@#$!#$  BigBearJohn   Feb-23-05 02:04 PM   #22 
  - He makes good points. Organize workers rather than fund politicians.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Feb-23-05 02:04 PM   #24 
  - Actually they need to do both.  K-W   Feb-23-05 02:25 PM   #33 
  - in a way, he's right  Magic Rat   Feb-23-05 02:05 PM   #26 
  - Labor Movement Has Done Much More Than Just Give Money  Itsthetruth   Feb-23-05 02:25 PM   #35 
     - Union And Other Activists Feel Betrayed  Itsthetruth   Feb-23-05 02:38 PM   #43 
        - Had Kerry won with strong liberal support, the party would have  K-W   Feb-23-05 02:44 PM   #44 
  - It's worth a shot  idlisambar   Feb-23-05 02:57 PM   #47 
  - They should pour their money into election reform and the greens  rainy   Feb-23-05 03:21 PM   #50 
  - Ca You Really Blame Progressives For Being Discouraged?  Itsthetruth   Feb-23-05 03:25 PM   #51 
  - Sorry....  dryan   Feb-23-05 03:26 PM   #52 
  - National Writers Union Is A Bona Fide Union  Itsthetruth   Feb-23-05 11:30 PM   #81 
  - Sorry....  dryan   Feb-23-05 03:26 PM   #53 
     - More Interesting Info On The National Writers Union  Itsthetruth   Feb-23-05 11:42 PM   #83 
  - i couldn't agree more  enki23   Feb-23-05 03:34 PM   #55 
  - Makes a lot of sense to me. He's talking about using the campaign...  jswordy   Feb-23-05 03:56 PM   #57 
  - Hmmmmm .... I wonder if the DLC even cares. (n/t)  FlemingsGhost   Feb-23-05 04:25 PM   #62 
  - Perhaps I'm reading this differently than others  DemocracyInaction   Feb-23-05 04:48 PM   #66 
  - I find myself oddly in favor of his remedy  nothingshocksmeanymore   Feb-23-05 05:00 PM   #67 
  - Labor is the heart of the Democratic Party  BrightKnight   Feb-23-05 05:52 PM   #71 
  - Yes! Organize! Organize! Organize! eom  struggle4progress   Feb-23-05 06:40 PM   #72 
  - Yet AGAIN, it smells like ELEPHANT dung in here.  Vektor   Feb-23-05 07:37 PM   #74 
  - smells like a freeper wedgie - n/t  BrightKnight   Feb-23-05 09:17 PM   #78 
  - About fucking time! n/t  Lilith Velkor   Feb-23-05 08:00 PM   #75 
  - He has some good points  fujiyama   Feb-23-05 11:57 PM   #86 
 

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