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Mon Feb-21-05 03:18 PM
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| 49. banning things is illiberal imo |
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there are certain things that are just outrageously offensive and there should be a consensus on preventing them from happening.
However, the issues you cite are only bannable (does that word exist?) if the majority impose their will on the minority, irrespective of how slim the majority in favour of a ban. and numbers do not always equal "right". The Sun is the biggest selling tabloid in the UK but it's a sexist rag. Based upon democracy though that's what the majority of people want so it must be the optimum choice. Rhetoric on my part. It doesn't mean they are right or that the paper in question has any quality. "Beware the tyranny of the majority" and all that.
A philosophical minefield the subject of whether we should allow things to continue unless they are harmful to society or just offensive. The latter include killing people for whatever reason, racism, sexism and exploitation. Once we move into the realm of personal choice the waters get very muddy indeed.
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| -Does owning a gun, eating meat, and hunting disqualify one from... |
devilgrrl |
Feb-21-05 02:43 PM |
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I don't know? |
jedr |
Feb-21-05 02:45 PM |
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Ditto except for the liberal part. |
Jackpine Radical |
Feb-21-05 02:52 PM |
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No. That would eliminate most of the country. |
yardwork |
Feb-21-05 02:45 PM |
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If you'd like, go right ahead. |
devilgrrl |
Feb-21-05 02:46 PM |
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Yeah and how would we explain Vermont? |
gorbal |
Feb-21-05 03:24 PM |
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I don't think so |
Downtown Hound |
Feb-21-05 02:45 PM |
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Hardly. |
kazoo35 |
Feb-21-05 02:46 PM |
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Because... |
ultraist |
Feb-21-05 02:49 PM |
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Set-place agriculture and civilization are not environmentally friendly |
HereSince1628 |
Feb-21-05 02:57 PM |
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Possibly, coffee is a luxury as is meat |
ultraist |
Feb-21-05 03:06 PM |
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Coffee, Ma'am, Is The First Essential Of Life |
The Magistrate |
Feb-21-05 03:12 PM |
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Well, no, not |
forgethell |
Feb-21-05 03:31 PM |
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I guess that depends |
forgethell |
Feb-21-05 03:14 PM |
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me too |
Lucky Luciano |
Feb-21-05 03:24 PM |
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The average American's coffee consumption requires lots of land |
HereSince1628 |
Feb-21-05 03:31 PM |
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LOL! |
ArkDem |
Feb-21-05 02:59 PM |
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That's silly |
Melodybe |
Feb-21-05 02:46 PM |
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The death penalty is not progressive |
4morewars |
Feb-21-05 02:49 PM |
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Whew! Kerry supports the Death Penalty. |
Kerrytravelers |
Feb-21-05 03:01 PM |
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Kerry does not support the death penalty |
imenja |
Feb-21-05 03:08 PM |
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But Clinton |
forgethell |
Feb-21-05 03:11 PM |
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it's still barbaric |
imenja |
Feb-21-05 03:13 PM |
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What makes it |
forgethell |
Feb-21-05 03:27 PM |
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what makes child molestation, rape, or murder immoral? |
imenja |
Feb-21-05 04:13 PM |
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Why isn't murder acceptable? |
forgethell |
Feb-21-05 06:21 PM |
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mine is not better than everyone else's |
imenja |
Feb-21-05 09:54 PM |
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You understand nothing. |
forgethell |
Feb-22-05 07:50 AM |
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Kerry supports it in a very limited way |
ultraist |
Feb-21-05 03:09 PM |
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It's far more than I would support it. |
Kerrytravelers |
Feb-21-05 03:15 PM |
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Why are you defining a liberal via a test of progressivism? |
HereSince1628 |
Feb-21-05 03:18 PM |
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Ah, so please list all the litmus tests there are for being liberal... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Feb-21-05 04:32 PM |
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No, |
NCevilDUer |
Feb-21-05 02:58 PM |
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I wouldn't call you a liberal |
Bluebear |
Feb-21-05 03:01 PM |
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there are a lot of gun owners on DU |
imenja |
Feb-21-05 02:46 PM |
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(142 votes, 43%) of us as of now have guns in our homes, yes. |
BikeWriter |
Feb-21-05 03:01 PM |
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nope |
prodigal_green |
Feb-21-05 02:46 PM |
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Oh? Are sure about that???? |
devilgrrl |
Feb-21-05 02:50 PM |
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Hmmm... |
prodigal_green |
Feb-21-05 02:54 PM |
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you know that I was just being... |
devilgrrl |
Feb-21-05 03:07 PM |
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yes |
prodigal_green |
Feb-21-05 04:28 PM |
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No. |
bearfan454 |
Feb-21-05 02:47 PM |
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Not To My View, Ma'am |
The Magistrate |
Feb-21-05 02:48 PM |
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I hope not |
MASSAFRA |
Feb-21-05 02:48 PM |
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The beautiful thing about being a lib is that the tent is HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Kerrytravelers |
Feb-21-05 02:56 PM |
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who? |
jdj |
Feb-21-05 02:50 PM |
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When the revolution/civil war starts |
Dhalgren |
Feb-21-05 02:50 PM |
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I heard Ed Schultz once |
Lucky Luciano |
Feb-21-05 02:50 PM |
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Not my style, either |
Psephos |
Feb-21-05 02:53 PM |
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The right has misled America ... |
Drifter |
Feb-21-05 02:52 PM |
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LMAO!!! "tofu eatting whiners..." hehehe... |
ultraist |
Feb-21-05 02:59 PM |
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I'm kinda bad, too. |
Kerrytravelers |
Feb-21-05 03:10 PM |
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Nope - liberal means tolerant. nt |
glitch |
Feb-21-05 02:52 PM |
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Nope n/t |
Redneck Socialist |
Feb-21-05 02:55 PM |
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Hell no. Being a self-indulgent, chicken hawk, greed monger does. |
farmbo |
Feb-21-05 02:59 PM |
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Depends. |
Baclava |
Feb-21-05 02:59 PM |
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No. Meat eating is very common, gun ownership somewhat common among progs |
NAO |
Feb-21-05 03:01 PM |
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Nope. |
porphyrian |
Feb-21-05 03:03 PM |
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Only for |
forgethell |
Feb-21-05 03:04 PM |
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Nope... |
solinvictus |
Feb-21-05 03:06 PM |
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no |
number6 |
Feb-21-05 03:07 PM |
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banning things is illiberal imo |
McKenzie |
Feb-21-05 03:18 PM |
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Absoultely Positively |
TomClash |
Feb-21-05 03:31 PM |
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Funny! I hear this a lot too! |
bush_is_wacko |
Feb-21-05 03:36 PM |
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Right on. |
porphyrian |
Feb-21-05 04:31 PM |
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No, no, and no. n/t |
tx_dem41 |
Feb-21-05 04:33 PM |
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Absolutely not. |
Maddy McCall |
Feb-21-05 05:51 PM |
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