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Wed Feb-16-05 09:06 AM
Response to Reply #41 |
| 55. OK, I'll humor you guys. |
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Why you want to make over the definition of a word rather than just hop to one that was recently added to the english language that is much more accurate, I have no idea. It's an uphill battle, and whether or not you succeed, you'll still be viewed as a "milder form of strong atheism" because we do not have any other word that I know of for those who claim nonexistance outright.
I mean I can see where maybe you think this semantic wrangling wins arguments, but if I were you, I'd just be blunt and say "prove it."
I still would like to meet a "strong atheist" though and see what makes them tick. My friend is too wishy washy on the matter to really offer much insight.
(Oh, and by the way, connotation notwithstanding, the denotation of a word cannot always be correctly derived by breaking it into its composite roots.)
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| -My Best Friend is an Atheist. |
MrsGrumpy |
Feb-15-05 02:27 PM |
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Thank you, MrsGrumpy. |
trotsky |
Feb-15-05 02:30 PM |
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This nonpracticing Catholic feels the same way. |
deadparrot |
Feb-15-05 02:34 PM |
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Sadly, we had the chance as a parish to have a warming center for |
MrsGrumpy |
Feb-15-05 02:36 PM |
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"How do you stay good?" |
theorist |
Feb-15-05 02:36 PM |
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I was once asked |
Az |
Feb-15-05 03:42 PM |
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Amazing that there are people like this. But I guess it's good to open |
MrsGrumpy |
Feb-15-05 05:35 PM |
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Christians can rape, steal, and kill too! |
MadisonProgressive |
Feb-15-05 07:19 PM |
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That's A Good Response, Az |
ProfessorGAC |
Feb-16-05 07:22 AM |
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Az, what an idiot that person was. |
Bouncy Ball |
Feb-16-05 08:06 AM |
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I don't presume that would be the individuals natural thinking |
Az |
Feb-16-05 08:12 AM |
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Wars in the name of Atheism 0 War in the name of God Thousands n/t |
Snotcicles |
Feb-16-05 09:53 AM |
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re: "How do You stay good?" |
old blue |
Feb-15-05 09:35 PM |
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I have answered this using Kohlberg's moral development theory |
Stuckinthebush |
Feb-16-05 08:09 AM |
#48 |
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This is a very good point |
Snotcicles |
Feb-16-05 09:26 AM |
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Isn't One Of Them Also Expectation Of Reward? |
ProfessorGAC |
Feb-16-05 09:33 AM |
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Discretion is the better part of valor |
Snotcicles |
Feb-16-05 09:47 AM |
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Ahhhhhh...Kholberg |
reallygone |
Feb-16-05 10:32 AM |
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BTW, sarcasm is a mortal sin and you will burn in hell for this post. |
BlueEyedSon |
Feb-16-05 11:01 AM |
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excellent response! |
ultraist |
Feb-16-05 12:25 PM |
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Thank you. |
flamin lib |
Feb-15-05 02:37 PM |
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Interesting perspective |
lukasahero |
Feb-15-05 02:52 PM |
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Thank you |
Az |
Feb-15-05 02:38 PM |
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Thank you |
YankeyMCC |
Feb-15-05 02:40 PM |
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My husband is agnostic |
lukasahero |
Feb-15-05 02:44 PM |
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So is mine |
shrike |
Feb-16-05 09:32 AM |
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Don't you mean she's a good person? |
Old Mouse |
Feb-15-05 02:55 PM |
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Persecuted? |
ieoeja |
Feb-15-05 03:37 PM |
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I mean actively denied opportunity |
Old Mouse |
Feb-15-05 03:49 PM |
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Surely there is no active persecution? |
China_cat |
Feb-15-05 04:23 PM |
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Well said China_cat. |
MrsGrumpy |
Feb-15-05 06:58 PM |
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(the uberright equates atheists with pedophiles) |
RoeBear |
Feb-15-05 08:39 PM |
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I know that, you know that |
China_cat |
Feb-16-05 07:00 AM |
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My mother was a councilor for many years |
Old Mouse |
Feb-15-05 09:57 PM |
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Part of it not being seen |
China_cat |
Feb-16-05 07:06 AM |
#37 |
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I think you have a point |
Old Mouse |
Feb-17-05 01:30 PM |
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Good points! |
ultraist |
Feb-16-05 12:45 PM |
#98 |
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If you are denied a job because of your atheism |
DrGonzoLives |
Feb-16-05 10:26 AM |
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And get ignored. |
China_cat |
Feb-16-05 11:44 AM |
#91 |
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Have you tried? |
DrGonzoLives |
Feb-16-05 01:02 PM |
#100 |
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Yes |
China_cat |
Feb-16-05 01:44 PM |
#106 |
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If you had been following GD this afternoon, perhaps you would understand |
MrsGrumpy |
Feb-15-05 05:30 PM |
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In pre-school small children often |
Morose |
Feb-15-05 05:37 PM |
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Non Christian children have it the worst, IMO |
ultraist |
Feb-16-05 01:00 PM |
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Contemporary Christian persecution is a RW/fundi meme |
rman |
Feb-16-05 08:27 AM |
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H.L.Mencken quote |
ken-in-seattle |
Feb-15-05 02:59 PM |
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That quote is about the people |
Old Mouse |
Feb-15-05 03:49 PM |
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It is about both. |
BlueEyedSon |
Feb-16-05 11:10 AM |
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Buddhism is no better than Christianity |
Old Mouse |
Feb-17-05 01:39 PM |
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Atheists make better Christians... |
misanthrope |
Feb-15-05 02:59 PM |
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I always tell my dear aforementioned friend (and fellow DUer) that she |
MrsGrumpy |
Feb-15-05 05:34 PM |
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I feel the same amazment at my great Christian friend. She is awesome! |
applegrove |
Feb-15-05 03:27 PM |
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Good people are just good. Regardless of religion. |
Kinkistyle |
Feb-15-05 09:06 PM |
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I too believe that having that religious gene can make our religious |
applegrove |
Feb-16-05 08:55 AM |
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I'm an agnostic |
MadisonProgressive |
Feb-15-05 07:34 PM |
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I'm an atheist |
RoeBear |
Feb-15-05 09:09 PM |
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Somehow I was appointed godmother to my dear nephew. |
July |
Feb-15-05 09:52 PM |
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We are the Godless parents |
Az |
Feb-15-05 09:58 PM |
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I have a good friend who is an atheist...but that's all she fucking wanted |
lonestarnot |
Feb-15-05 09:58 PM |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
Feb-15-05 09:58 PM |
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Is Grovelbot an atheist? |
hatrack |
Feb-17-05 08:03 AM |
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One could make the case |
Az |
Feb-17-05 08:06 AM |
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Still trying to figure out atheism myself. |
skids |
Feb-16-05 12:47 AM |
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Atheism |
China_cat |
Feb-16-05 07:13 AM |
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Then it's a difference in terminology... |
skids |
Feb-16-05 08:01 AM |
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I've often wondered about that |
Roland99 |
Feb-16-05 09:28 AM |
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There are tribes |
China_cat |
Feb-16-05 09:47 AM |
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Likely they would pose that question |
ultraist |
Feb-16-05 01:11 PM |
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More and more atheists are rejecting the theists definition of atheism |
Az |
Feb-16-05 07:35 AM |
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it seems like it would depend... |
bloom |
Feb-16-05 08:03 AM |
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In my case there never has been a 'belief' to reject |
China_cat |
Feb-16-05 08:09 AM |
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Well, I've got bad news for you... |
skids |
Feb-16-05 09:08 AM |
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So, their god |
China_cat |
Feb-16-05 09:34 AM |
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No, I wouldn't say that. |
skids |
Feb-16-05 09:48 AM |
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I don't understand why it wouldn't. |
China_cat |
Feb-16-05 10:46 AM |
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Because. |
skids |
Feb-16-05 11:06 AM |
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Is this just your way of trying to say |
China_cat |
Feb-16-05 11:39 AM |
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No, like I said. |
skids |
Feb-16-05 12:10 PM |
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OK, I'll humor you guys. |
skids |
Feb-16-05 09:06 AM |
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The recent attempt to take a word didn;t go over too well |
Az |
Feb-16-05 09:36 AM |
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OK, I'll bite. |
skids |
Feb-16-05 09:52 AM |
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It doesn't address the question |
Az |
Feb-16-05 10:00 AM |
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Still not getting it. |
skids |
Feb-16-05 11:05 AM |
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You raise good questions |
von Staufenberg |
Feb-16-05 01:58 PM |
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The Variable god |
Az |
Feb-16-05 02:41 PM |
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A bit much to chew on. |
skids |
Feb-16-05 02:58 PM |
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More good questions |
von Staufenberg |
Feb-16-05 03:35 PM |
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Pantheists and redefining god |
Az |
Feb-16-05 03:40 PM |
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I think pantheism and panentheism qualify as "common" |
skids |
Feb-16-05 04:24 PM |
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In the end labels really mean nothing |
Az |
Feb-16-05 04:29 PM |
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Parting shot... |
skids |
Feb-16-05 04:40 PM |
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valid observation |
von Staufenberg |
Feb-16-05 09:15 PM |
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Proof? |
Az |
Feb-16-05 02:35 PM |
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Yep |
von Staufenberg |
Feb-16-05 02:53 PM |
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Not to mention... |
skids |
Feb-16-05 03:34 PM |
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Lol |
Az |
Feb-16-05 03:37 PM |
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a=without....To me, the two terms are interchangeable. |
MrsGrumpy |
Feb-17-05 06:54 AM |
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I'm a strong atheist |
Peak_Oil |
Feb-16-05 02:55 PM |
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Speaking for yourself is fine. |
skids |
Feb-16-05 03:10 PM |
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Definition of God |
Peak_Oil |
Feb-16-05 03:31 PM |
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Evil ahead |
Az |
Feb-16-05 03:41 PM |
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All your examples... |
skids |
Feb-16-05 03:49 PM |
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OK |
Peak_Oil |
Feb-16-05 04:05 PM |
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Too tired... |
skids |
Feb-16-05 04:35 PM |
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Quick thought |
von Staufenberg |
Feb-16-05 09:41 PM |
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Shortsighted |
Az |
Feb-17-05 06:42 AM |
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Clarification |
von Staufenberg |
Feb-17-05 07:58 AM |
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Yes, there are various types of athiests |
ultraist |
Feb-16-05 01:29 PM |
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What goes through your head when you read about belief in Santa? |
Modem Butterfly |
Feb-16-05 07:46 AM |
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I think you are assuming a bit. |
skids |
Feb-16-05 09:12 AM |
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When you understand why you don't believe in one particular god |
Modem Butterfly |
Feb-16-05 09:21 AM |
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Oh, I have no problem with that. |
skids |
Feb-16-05 09:50 AM |
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I feel the word best describes me |
Modem Butterfly |
Feb-16-05 10:04 AM |
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Why do you want to redefine a word that already exists |
China_cat |
Feb-16-05 10:54 AM |
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I have no interest in demonizing anyone. |
skids |
Feb-16-05 11:07 AM |
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You do realize that Webster |
China_cat |
Feb-16-05 11:41 AM |
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Actually, I didn't know that. |
skids |
Feb-16-05 12:05 PM |
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Excellent reply, Modem...I would have never thought to put it that |
MrsGrumpy |
Feb-16-05 11:16 AM |
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Sigh... here is the quote you are looking for: |
BlueEyedSon |
Feb-16-05 11:13 AM |
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Why thank-you! I never knew that it was an actual quote |
Modem Butterfly |
Feb-16-05 12:04 PM |
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That's nothing! I am in school in my last year of religious |
Thtwudbeme |
Feb-16-05 07:19 AM |
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And it's been WONDERFUL! |
JanMichael |
Feb-16-05 09:43 PM |
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One of my dearest friends online is an atheist |
Bouncy Ball |
Feb-16-05 08:04 AM |
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The friend I was describing used to describer herself as an agnostic. |
MrsGrumpy |
Feb-16-05 10:58 AM |
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As an atheist myself, thank you! |
Roland99 |
Feb-16-05 08:19 AM |
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I'm an atheist, and my best friend is a devout Catholic. |
SmokingJacket |
Feb-16-05 08:29 AM |
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Thank you Mrs Grumpy, from an Atheist. |
sarcasmo |
Feb-16-05 08:31 AM |
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I am also Roman Catholic. |
Dorian Gray |
Feb-16-05 09:14 AM |
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Only on DU would I read something like that, Thank you! nt |
usregimechange |
Feb-16-05 09:38 AM |
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muddled thoughts... |
BunnyPuncher |
Feb-16-05 10:04 AM |
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NYT OpEd on the "God gene" |
BlueEyedSon |
Feb-16-05 11:18 AM |
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I've seen that book mentioned... |
BunnyPuncher |
Feb-16-05 12:08 PM |
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That is a very inaccurate review of that study |
ultraist |
Feb-16-05 01:39 PM |
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Welcome BunnyPuncher! |
ultraist |
Feb-16-05 01:23 PM |
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What a lovely post! |
ultraist |
Feb-16-05 12:19 PM |
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Spread the word, Sister! nt |
KnowerOfLogic |
Feb-16-05 01:23 PM |
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Thanks From Another One. Really Well Said. nt |
impeachdubya |
Feb-16-05 03:37 PM |
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Thanks for this post. |
Zhade |
Feb-16-05 03:44 PM |
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GET OUT - You mean us godless heathens are people too! |
dr.strangelove |
Feb-16-05 04:14 PM |
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ah, yes. |
Lexingtonian |
Feb-16-05 04:53 PM |
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This deserves a reply. Very well said... |
MrsGrumpy |
Feb-17-05 06:31 AM |
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Well said |
von Staufenberg |
Feb-17-05 08:13 AM |
#139 |
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My Favorite Post This Year... |
arwalden |
Feb-17-05 01:35 PM |
#141 |
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