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Sat Feb-12-05 09:32 AM
Response to Reply #63 |
| 70. Because old people are so mean. |
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People get mean as they get older. and the older ones are the ones who have the money and time to run for office, where they can take their bile out on everyone.
That's why we have shit like "No Saggy Pants" laws in VA.
Good thing I'm poor. I got a lot of bile, too.
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| -Minimum wage, the working poor, and the creation of the criminal class |
beyurslf |
Feb-11-05 05:37 PM |
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But |
Tux |
Feb-11-05 05:43 PM |
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I never have understood the whole "fine thing" |
BlueJazz |
Feb-11-05 05:46 PM |
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I don't understand the idea that you don't pay a fine so we suspend |
beyurslf |
Feb-11-05 05:48 PM |
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What's sad is that many of those folks |
geniph |
Feb-11-05 06:54 PM |
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Some Scandinavian countries have |
RoeBear |
Feb-11-05 06:13 PM |
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Devi's advocate here. |
candy |
Feb-11-05 05:49 PM |
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not everybody has the same level of personal and financial responsibility |
Pepperbelly |
Feb-11-05 05:55 PM |
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delete |
The Flaming Red Head |
Feb-13-05 05:48 AM |
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I worked in child welfare. I can't tell you how often something like this |
beyurslf |
Feb-11-05 06:01 PM |
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I don't know how old you are, but being 'poor' in the 50's 60's and 70's |
angstlessk |
Feb-11-05 06:10 PM |
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Welcome angstlessk! |
ultraist |
Feb-11-05 06:23 PM |
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Thank you for the welcome. I remember when the women's movement |
angstlessk |
Feb-11-05 06:33 PM |
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I appreciate your sharing a snapshot of reality. |
Just Me |
Feb-11-05 06:53 PM |
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Thank you for the welcome. There are a gazillion business digests |
angstlessk |
Feb-11-05 07:20 PM |
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Labor owning the factory |
RoeBear |
Feb-12-05 08:26 PM |
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I work two jobs |
xmas74 |
Feb-12-05 05:36 AM |
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I Feel Ya |
mermaid |
Feb-13-05 01:10 PM |
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Affordable housing in urban areas is virtually nonexistent |
lapislzi |
Feb-11-05 06:29 PM |
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Thanks for the welcome. You do volunteer work. That is most admirable. |
angstlessk |
Feb-11-05 06:50 PM |
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I'm from LI originally |
lapislzi |
Feb-11-05 06:58 PM |
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Hell, even our police can't afford to live in the city of Seattle |
geniph |
Feb-11-05 06:50 PM |
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Good point! The apartment we lived in now probably has |
candy |
Feb-11-05 07:04 PM |
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Amen |
MountainLaurel |
Feb-11-05 09:09 PM |
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Amen! Far worse now. |
eridani |
Feb-11-05 11:18 PM |
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Plus jobs moved out of the city. Industry anyway. |
Sterling |
Feb-12-05 07:38 AM |
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One trip to the ER and your "back up money" |
GreenPoet64 |
Feb-11-05 06:37 PM |
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where did this back-up money come from? |
amazona |
Feb-11-05 06:40 PM |
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And the poor people are often very generous |
Nobody |
Feb-12-05 08:44 AM |
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yes, too generous for their own good! |
amazona |
Feb-12-05 10:43 AM |
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She also had family and friends that would have helped her out of a scrape |
Sterling |
Feb-12-05 07:35 AM |
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Situational vs generational poverty: |
LWolf |
Feb-12-05 09:45 AM |
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(self deletes) |
The Flaming Red Head |
Feb-13-05 05:43 AM |
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I've said it before. Prisons = profit |
lapislzi |
Feb-11-05 06:17 PM |
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Yes indeed! |
Blue State Native |
Feb-11-05 06:50 PM |
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And it transfers economic resources |
MountainLaurel |
Feb-11-05 09:12 PM |
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Excellent point! |
Pushed To The Left |
Feb-12-05 03:02 AM |
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Indeed so. Whatever happened to rehabilitation? |
Conservativesux |
Feb-12-05 04:36 AM |
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As a society we value "punishment" over "justice." |
lapislzi |
Feb-12-05 09:50 AM |
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That would mean that * isnt really a Christian, wouldnt it? |
Conservativesux |
Feb-13-05 01:49 AM |
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self delete |
The Flaming Red Head |
Feb-13-05 05:58 AM |
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But if they arrest all the poor, who will clean their toilets? |
Betsy Ross |
Feb-11-05 06:18 PM |
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They will keep the borders porous so there is an endless flow |
ultraist |
Feb-11-05 06:28 PM |
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Ummm....no... |
lapislzi |
Feb-11-05 06:33 PM |
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That's interesting, they will just create whole towns that are safe |
ultraist |
Feb-11-05 07:50 PM |
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Exactly. The divide deepens |
lapislzi |
Feb-12-05 07:30 AM |
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Yes here in the city it's rich people rent or the projects. |
Sterling |
Feb-12-05 07:59 AM |
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There is little use for the so-called middle class in society any longer |
lapislzi |
Feb-12-05 09:46 AM |
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Areas of Harlem have been gentrified, Clinton's neighborhood |
ultraist |
Feb-13-05 01:34 AM |
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The War on Poverty. |
Us vs Them |
Feb-11-05 06:37 PM |
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The War on Poverty became the War on the Poor |
lapislzi |
Feb-11-05 06:52 PM |
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these are voters |
PowerToThePeople |
Feb-12-05 03:08 AM |
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OK, first, not all convicts lose voting rights permanently |
lapislzi |
Feb-12-05 09:57 AM |
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I was not "lumping" |
PowerToThePeople |
Feb-13-05 03:31 AM |
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Excellent, excellent post |
kenzee13 |
Feb-11-05 06:39 PM |
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This post reminded me of a good book . . . |
GreenPoet64 |
Feb-11-05 06:42 PM |
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Oh, God!!! I know!!! I've lived it, seen it. It's the "hidden America"! |
Just Me |
Feb-11-05 06:42 PM |
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nominated! |
G_j |
Feb-11-05 06:43 PM |
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It's hard to believe that such circumstances are tolerated in a "civil",.. |
Just Me |
Feb-11-05 07:05 PM |
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What is "nominated" I have seen that a few times. |
angstlessk |
Feb-11-05 07:33 PM |
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Look at the bottom of the opening/first post |
Lars39 |
Feb-11-05 07:36 PM |
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An Excellent Piece, Mr. Yrslf! |
The Magistrate |
Feb-11-05 06:55 PM |
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Well, they didn't take my children, |
kdmorris |
Feb-11-05 07:09 PM |
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There are tens of millions of Americans just like you. |
Just Me |
Feb-11-05 07:49 PM |
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That's something that makes me see red... |
kdmorris |
Feb-11-05 08:06 PM |
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exactly...not rare |
ixion |
Feb-11-05 10:26 PM |
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Stuff like this makes me crazy, |
wildeyed |
Feb-11-05 07:12 PM |
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35.9 MILLION people live in poverty |
ultraist |
Feb-11-05 07:56 PM |
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How do you sort out |
RoeBear |
Feb-11-05 08:35 PM |
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You don't, addicts need treatment anyways... |
Solon |
Feb-11-05 11:08 PM |
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I consider the drug addicted to be truly needy, too, |
wildeyed |
Feb-12-05 07:25 AM |
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My thought was |
RoeBear |
Feb-12-05 09:19 AM |
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I guess I never considered that. |
wildeyed |
Feb-12-05 11:41 AM |
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No, it's not a prejudice on my part |
RoeBear |
Feb-12-05 11:46 AM |
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But what percentage of poor people actually do that? |
wildeyed |
Feb-12-05 11:52 AM |
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I didn't suggest that they discriminate |
RoeBear |
Feb-12-05 12:02 PM |
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Government help is not usually in the form of cash |
ultraist |
Feb-13-05 01:43 AM |
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A drug addict is physically dependent on drugs. |
Lars39 |
Feb-13-05 01:09 PM |
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I'm far more concerned about the use of billions of taxpayer |
Bouncy Ball |
Feb-13-05 05:55 PM |
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Do the children of addicts not deserve homes and food? nt |
LeftyMom |
Feb-13-05 03:20 AM |
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According to the book "50 things you aren't supposed to know" |
Democrat Dragon |
Feb-11-05 09:21 PM |
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then her kid sufferes in foster car |
KissMeKate |
Feb-11-05 10:38 PM |
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Which is ANOTHER facet of this nightmare. |
Bouncy Ball |
Feb-13-05 05:57 PM |
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Ways in which the poor are screwed |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Feb-11-05 11:14 PM |
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An addendum |
MountainLaurel |
Feb-12-05 11:53 AM |
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Don't forget the pawn shops.... |
William Bloode |
Feb-13-05 06:20 PM |
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The right wing is phony on crime! |
Pushed To The Left |
Feb-12-05 02:50 AM |
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Let us all not forget the white collar crime that goes unpunished. |
Conservativesux |
Feb-12-05 04:37 AM |
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I know a repuke state representative who has |
Bouncy Ball |
Feb-13-05 05:58 PM |
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This Is An Excellent Thread |
stunted_evolution |
Feb-12-05 07:27 AM |
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Welcome stunted_evolution! |
ultraist |
Feb-13-05 01:48 AM |
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I used to see this in traffic court in OKC. |
Sterling |
Feb-12-05 07:32 AM |
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attitudes.. why is the mindset so mean? |
G_j |
Feb-12-05 07:55 AM |
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Because old people are so mean. |
BiggJawn |
Feb-12-05 09:32 AM |
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are you for real? I love old people |
ultraist |
Feb-13-05 01:50 AM |
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No, it was an "Anti-Young People Law". |
BiggJawn |
Feb-13-05 12:54 PM |
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From my experience "grumpy" might be more fitting in cases :-) |
G_j |
Feb-13-05 01:03 PM |
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Wow, great post. |
porkrind |
Feb-12-05 08:42 AM |
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You have to pay to keep up a society |
Mabel Dodge |
Feb-12-05 09:25 AM |
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Exactly! I wish the "Freedom Isn't Free" crowd would remember that. |
lapislzi |
Feb-12-05 09:59 AM |
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I hear you bother/sister |
Mabel Dodge |
Feb-12-05 12:18 PM |
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You got your timeline messed up. |
BiggJawn |
Feb-12-05 09:28 AM |
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Don't forget the second cycle of poverty |
RazzleCat |
Feb-12-05 10:39 AM |
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And that "lousy 10 bucks" makes a difference. |
BiggJawn |
Feb-12-05 12:02 PM |
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blew her insurance payment & mortgage pymt at the Dollar store? |
ultraist |
Feb-13-05 01:54 AM |
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No, I'm a god-damn figment of your TV-infested imagination. |
BiggJawn |
Feb-13-05 01:01 PM |
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These working poor are potential voters |
TNMOM |
Feb-12-05 09:24 PM |
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this is one of the best threads I have ever read. Thanks |
rodeodance |
Feb-13-05 01:27 AM |
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Voter registration drives and transportation to the polls! |
ultraist |
Feb-13-05 01:56 AM |
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I helped to register 750 low-income voters before the November election. |
Bouncy Ball |
Feb-13-05 06:00 PM |
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delete |
The Flaming Red Head |
Feb-13-05 05:32 AM |
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It's going to get much worse. |
Disturbed |
Feb-13-05 06:11 AM |
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Press used to broadcast this kind of story. Where are they? Whores. |
jazzjunkysue |
Feb-13-05 10:02 AM |
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Hey I am just happy to have a thread on the Greatest page. Thanks |
beyurslf |
Feb-13-05 05:12 PM |
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Great example and thank you |
Bouncy Ball |
Feb-13-05 05:49 PM |
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John Edwards talked about the poor in his campaign.. |
Disturbed |
Feb-13-05 06:17 PM |
#114 |