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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:26 AM
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35. Well done.
Thanks for your words. It's really important for those of us who have some form of privilege to at least acknowledge it.

I've noticed when it comes to issues of racism or sexism lately, there is a quick push back claiming "reverse discrimination". The only thing that does is diminish the validity of the initial claim, cloud the reality of the issues faced by the "oppressed" (for lack of a better word) and ultimately allow the perpetuation of the problem.

Basically, you will never fix a problem if you refuse to admit it's there in the first place.
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  -I never realized how persecuted White men are until I saw this graph! trumad  Feb-08-05 07:34 PM   #0 
  - It must be rough!  jhuth   Feb-08-05 07:35 PM   #1 
  - at least we know the mantra...  w13rd0   Feb-08-05 07:36 PM   #2 
  - Those poor white folks can never catch a break....................  ClintonTyree   Feb-08-05 07:37 PM   #3 
  - One more bar would tell the entire story  Gman   Feb-08-05 07:38 PM   #4 
  - I think we all know what that would look like nt  goddess40   Feb-08-05 07:39 PM   #8 
  - Maybe, just maybe  RC   Feb-08-05 07:38 PM   #5 
  - One of those things that makes women go "whaaat?"  BrklynLiberal   Feb-08-05 07:38 PM   #6 
  - Reminds me of the bumper sticker I had in college:  PleadTheFirst   Feb-08-05 07:39 PM   #7 
  - Did you get any odd looks with that bumper sticker ?  Dark_Leftist   Feb-08-05 09:07 PM   #15 
     - Yeah ...  PleadTheFirst   Feb-08-05 11:32 PM   #18 
  - Very odd that, up til now, this thread has been  babylonsister   Feb-08-05 07:42 PM   #9 
  - Who's percecutin' your heiny?  donheld   Feb-08-05 09:11 PM   #16 
     - Actually, no one at the moment.  babylonsister   Feb-08-05 10:24 PM   #17 
  - thats proof of this mongrel country  jdots   Feb-08-05 07:49 PM   #10 
  - Wow, now I understand how come so many white guys you meet are pissed off  havocmom   Feb-08-05 07:50 PM   #11 
  - Wow, you really are from Really Pissed Off!  babylonsister   Feb-08-05 07:58 PM   #12 
  - How about CEOs  entanglement   Feb-08-05 09:03 PM   #13 
  - I'm so oppressed.  livinginphotographs   Feb-08-05 09:06 PM   #14 
  - I never realized how persecuted black people were  Yuugal   Feb-09-05 12:45 AM   #19 
  - Welcome to DU!!! It is a matter of BOTH class and race.  autorank   Feb-09-05 12:59 AM   #20 
  - I don't blame the dems just for that  Yuugal   Feb-09-05 01:38 AM   #21 
     - Jesus to Santa comparison...simply hilarious. Excellent  autorank   Feb-09-05 02:00 AM   #22 
     - How is this a "hate whitey" thread?  fishwax   Feb-09-05 12:28 PM   #52 
     - Oh, boo fucking hoo! Poor white males have been so discriminated against!  ultraist   Feb-09-05 12:41 PM   #54 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-09-05 02:55 PM   #86 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-09-05 03:35 PM   #94 
        - Maybe you should try to figure out why  fishwax   Feb-09-05 04:06 PM   #100 
     - Angry White Males...  GOPFighter   Feb-10-05 12:07 PM   #139 
  - Amen. It's rich v poor, not black v white.  Carolinian   Feb-09-05 08:21 AM   #28 
  - Hardly. You apparently never heard of "White Privilege"  kwassa   Feb-10-05 11:58 AM   #137 
  - Well there is this issue of class  Vladimir   Feb-09-05 11:51 AM   #42 
  - "Positive Discrimination"  Mystified   Feb-09-05 09:55 PM   #112 
     - No because compassionate conservatism  Bouncy Ball   Feb-12-05 01:58 AM   #156 
  - i hate whitey  mark414   Feb-09-05 02:06 PM   #67 
  - Also note that the vast majority of people in government say that they...  ck4829   Feb-10-05 12:11 PM   #140 
  - I did it again. I meant to reply to the original post. Sorry  ck4829   Feb-10-05 12:11 PM   #141 
  - Trumad, the thread works just like fly paper! n/t  Logansquare   Feb-10-05 05:01 PM   #145 
  - Your generation "didn't have discrimination"  jmm   Feb-10-05 10:02 PM   #155 
  - and that proves what?  hfojvt   Feb-09-05 02:42 AM   #23 
  - Wow. So the fact that most of the couple hundred congresspeople are white  UdoKier   Feb-09-05 02:51 AM   #24 
  - You guys crack me up  trumad   Feb-09-05 08:11 AM   #25 
  - I'm not claiming persecution. But your implication is just as false.  UdoKier   Feb-09-05 10:52 AM   #30 
  - Hmm...  UdoKier   Feb-09-05 11:19 AM   #34 
     - Well good for you...  trumad   Feb-09-05 11:33 AM   #36 
  - As a fellow white man  Stuckinthebush   Feb-09-05 08:44 AM   #29 
     - I am NOT privileged.  UdoKier   Feb-09-05 11:12 AM   #31 
     - "poor whites are not privileged"  DrWeird   Feb-09-05 11:34 AM   #38 
     - Bloody brilliant! Thank you! eom  lukasahero   Feb-09-05 11:45 AM   #39 
     - That's hitting the nail squarely on the head, Dr. Weird  geniph   Feb-09-05 02:29 PM   #75 
     - And that helps poor whites how?  pnb   Feb-09-05 02:57 PM   #87 
        - No the analogy is more like this:  SemiCharmedQuark   Feb-09-05 04:00 PM   #97 
           - You're missing the whole point of my analogy though  pnb   Feb-09-05 09:38 PM   #111 
     - wow  mark414   Feb-09-05 02:09 PM   #68 
     - Where did he deny that there is racism?  fishwax   Feb-09-05 02:26 PM   #74 
     - everything he said  mark414   Feb-09-05 02:32 PM   #77 
        - hardly everything he said  fishwax   Feb-09-05 02:39 PM   #80 
        - Actually nothing I said.  UdoKier   Feb-09-05 02:41 PM   #82 
           - if you can't see it for yourself  mark414   Feb-09-05 03:58 PM   #95 
              - There is nothing to see. I know what I wrote.  UdoKier   Feb-09-05 04:04 PM   #99 
     - Please find ONE instance where I denied the existence of racism.  UdoKier   Feb-09-05 03:00 PM   #90 
     - Yes you are... relatively speaking, which is the whole point.  Misunderestimator   Feb-09-05 04:16 PM   #103 
     - Well done.  lukasahero   Feb-09-05 11:26 AM   #35 
     - Reverse discrimination and other such forms of denial  fishwax   Feb-09-05 01:49 PM   # 
     - WOW! Excellent post.  trumad   Feb-09-05 11:34 AM   #37 
     - I'm Sure Fish Don't Even Realize They Are Immersed In Water  Beetwasher   Feb-09-05 11:49 AM   #40 
     - Good point...  smirkymonkey   Feb-09-05 04:49 PM   #106 
     - Brilliant post!  SemiCharmedQuark   Feb-09-05 11:58 AM   #44 
     - Actually, most of those things have to do with wealth  fishwax   Feb-09-05 12:56 PM   #55 
     - Indeed it is difficult to pull out the class part in the equation  Stuckinthebush   Feb-09-05 01:15 PM   #58 
     - Oh, I agree with your general point  fishwax   Feb-09-05 01:33 PM   #59 
        - OK  Stuckinthebush   Feb-09-05 01:38 PM   #60 
     - Yeah! What he said!  UdoKier   Feb-09-05 02:45 PM   #83 
        - Look at #58, #59, and #60  Stuckinthebush   Feb-09-05 03:11 PM   #91 
     - wrong  dcn112   Feb-10-05 06:23 AM   #126 
     - Your focus is on class issues, and a misread of the word privilege  Stuckinthebush   Feb-10-05 08:50 AM   #129 
        - You still didn't answer my main point  dcn112   Feb-10-05 05:27 PM   #147 
     - agreed, stuck...  Triana   Feb-10-05 05:21 PM   #146 
  - LOL love it  gollygee   Feb-09-05 08:18 AM   #26 
  - Sure did. And those same folks from the woodwork ...  harlinchi   Feb-09-05 11:18 AM   #33 
  - Don't worry. Dubya's No White Man Left Behind initiative will  atommom   Feb-09-05 08:19 AM   #27 
  - but on the reverse side they are the only group that can be fired  RUDUing2   Feb-09-05 11:15 AM   #32 
  - FINALLY My people have a VOICE!!!!!!!!!!  underpants   Feb-09-05 11:50 AM   #41 
  - And then I saw this...  Vladimir   Feb-09-05 11:54 AM   #43 
  - The prison populations is as you show it for two reasons.  UdoKier   Feb-09-05 12:07 PM   #45 
     - If I can see where someone claimed that all whites are powerful...  Vladimir   Feb-09-05 12:12 PM   #46 
     - NOT being harrassed is not "privilege". It shouldn't happen to anyone.  UdoKier   Feb-09-05 12:21 PM   #48 
        - 'Just like the blacks'? Methinks not...  Vladimir   Feb-09-05 12:28 PM   #51 
           - Statistics be damned. I've seen it happen first person.  UdoKier   Feb-09-05 12:30 PM   #53 
              - "Statistics be damned" ??? LMAO! Let's just IGNORE the facts!  ultraist   Feb-09-05 01:00 PM   #56 
                 - The fact that racism exists and that more whites are privileged...  UdoKier   Feb-09-05 01:53 PM   #64 
     - Hispanics make up 12 percent of the population, NOT 20.  SemiCharmedQuark   Feb-09-05 12:13 PM   #47 
     - And here is the sister info for black americans:  SemiCharmedQuark   Feb-09-05 12:22 PM   #49 
     - You are correct according to Census 2000.  UdoKier   Feb-09-05 12:27 PM   #50 
        - It's called institutionalized discrimination  ultraist   Feb-09-05 01:09 PM   #57 
           - Read my post. I didn't say that.  UdoKier   Feb-09-05 01:49 PM   #63 
     - Proportionally blacks commit a larger percentage of crimes?  nothingshocksmeanymore   Feb-09-05 01:48 PM   #62 
     - Exactly! White man for possession of cocaine vs. Black man with crack  ultraist   Feb-09-05 01:58 PM   #65 
     - Nobody's denying the existence of bias.  UdoKier   Feb-09-05 02:12 PM   #71 
     - Oh come now.  UdoKier   Feb-09-05 02:10 PM   #69 
        - One of the reasons  geniph   Feb-09-05 02:34 PM   #78 
     - think about this  mark414   Feb-09-05 02:15 PM   #72 
     - Whoa....Wait a Minute  BronxBoy   Feb-09-05 06:41 PM   #108 
        - You can check your ignorant BS at the door too.  UdoKier   Feb-09-05 10:44 PM   #117 
  - Well, That Settles It  ProfessorGAC   Feb-09-05 01:44 PM   #61 
  - Good point!  Misunderestimator   Feb-09-05 02:00 PM   #66 
  - We need to look past this color issue.  newportdadde   Feb-09-05 02:12 PM   #70 
  - hmm  mark414   Feb-09-05 02:32 PM   #76 
  - I'm not talking about  newportdadde   Feb-09-05 02:38 PM   #79 
  - i understand that  mark414   Feb-09-05 02:39 PM   #81 
  - garbage  dcn112   Feb-10-05 01:36 AM   #121 
     - Focus on solutions that help everyone?  fishwax   Feb-10-05 08:57 AM   #130 
  - LOL... You really think that per capita net worth would look different?  Misunderestimator   Feb-09-05 02:45 PM   #84 
  - Ugh.... like I said above the first battle is 99% of us vs them  newportdadde   Feb-09-05 02:59 PM   #89 
  - There are many more highly paid CEOs than highly paid NBA stars  Misunderestimator   Feb-09-05 03:31 PM   #93 
     - You just said it all...  UdoKier   Feb-09-05 04:10 PM   #101 
        - You still don't get it... the correlation between them being in power  Misunderestimator   Feb-09-05 04:14 PM   #102 
  - Um  dcn112   Feb-10-05 01:45 AM   #122 
     - Where did you come from? Racist crap? WTF are you talking about?  Misunderestimator   Feb-10-05 11:47 AM   #135 
  - Don't look past it, deal with it. And deal with poverty as well.  fishwax   Feb-09-05 04:18 PM   #104 
  - I would actually find it more instructive  geniph   Feb-09-05 02:25 PM   #73 
  - To those who keep making justifications and are pushing to silence us  ultraist   Feb-09-05 02:48 PM   #85 
  - Damn, talk about oppression.  SammyBlue   Feb-09-05 02:58 PM   #88 
  - Graph is a lot like  tinonedown   Feb-09-05 03:16 PM   #92 
  - So would I...  trumad   Feb-09-05 04:04 PM   #98 
     - Yes - something along those lines!  tinonedown   Feb-09-05 04:57 PM   #107 
  - I feel your pain...  txaslftist   Feb-09-05 03:59 PM   #96 
  - Please don't promote racial divisions  makhno   Feb-09-05 04:35 PM   #105 
  - so we should just ignore the divisions that exist?  mark414   Feb-09-05 09:14 PM   #109 
     - Turn a blind eye? Since when does awareness=creating divisions?  ultraist   Feb-09-05 10:12 PM   #115 
     - Denial promotes division. Amen  fishwax   Feb-09-05 11:56 PM   #119 
     - No one's telling you to ignore them  makhno   Feb-10-05 08:28 PM   #154 
  - As Lewis Black said:  Junkdrawer   Feb-09-05 09:33 PM   #110 
  - Are we THAT underrepresented in the general population?  Jack Rabbit   Feb-09-05 10:01 PM   #113 
  - 75% white males?  ulysses   Feb-10-05 07:08 PM   #150 
  - Too much credit  DubyaSux   Feb-09-05 10:07 PM   #114 
  - No, it's not 1950 but racism is still very prevelant in our society  ultraist   Feb-09-05 10:14 PM   #116 
  - I think you severely misunderstand the argument as well as the situation  fishwax   Feb-09-05 11:50 PM   #118 
  - This is silly and divisive  dcn112   Feb-10-05 01:24 AM   #120 
  - Are their a lot of Asians in Congress?  fishwax   Feb-10-05 08:49 AM   #128 
  - Who is denying that racism exists?  dcn112   Feb-10-05 04:57 PM   #144 
     - Well, you seem to want us not to talk about it  fishwax   Feb-10-05 08:03 PM   #152 
  - silly and divisive?  mark414   Feb-10-05 11:18 AM   #133 
  - There is something really wrong about this graph  GetTheRightVote   Feb-10-05 02:04 AM   #123 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-10-05 02:34 AM   #124 
  - no shit. what's up with this 40% business?  enki23   Feb-10-05 02:45 AM   #125 
  - snarf  trumad   Feb-10-05 06:24 AM   #127 
  - that was supposed to say "beer bong and porn industries"  enki23   Feb-10-05 09:40 AM   #131 
  - Remember the Male Privilege Checklist thread?  Scout   Feb-10-05 09:47 AM   #132 
  - do you have a link?  mark414   Feb-10-05 11:26 AM   #134 
     - no, don't have the link.  Scout   Feb-10-05 02:25 PM   #142 
  - I wonder what percentage of white males have been  ArkDem   Feb-10-05 11:56 AM   #136 
  - Why must you use your facts to persecute me? n/t  MostlyLurks   Feb-10-05 12:02 PM   #138 
  - yes, but I've sure spoken to enough  superconnected   Feb-10-05 02:59 PM   #143 
     - EVERYONE ON THE WHOLE GOD DANG PLANET  MattG   Feb-10-05 06:01 PM   #148 
        - and you believe whites have it better only a "tiny extent"  superconnected   Feb-10-05 07:04 PM   #149 
        - LMAO! "to a tiny extent" and lots of yelling...hmmmm  ultraist   Feb-10-05 07:38 PM   #151 
        - to a TINY extent? Get freakin' real  fishwax   Feb-10-05 08:11 PM   #153 
 

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