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Mon Jan-31-05 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #10 |
| 11. Please pass on the link, thanks. n/t |
| -Why not propose a flat-tax for SS reform to counter piratization |
tk2kewl |
Jan-31-05 10:09 PM |
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flat tax is regressive. |
Sirveri |
Jan-31-05 10:10 PM |
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current payroll tax is more regressive than a flat tax |
tk2kewl |
Jan-31-05 10:13 PM |
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in that case I agree with you, and it might be a good first step. |
Sirveri |
Jan-31-05 10:45 PM |
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Strictly speaking, it's proportional. |
mdhunter |
Jan-31-05 10:33 PM |
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I call it regressive because while it technically isn't, it ends up being |
Sirveri |
Jan-31-05 10:47 PM |
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but the person who has 2k |
mopinko |
Jan-31-05 10:52 PM |
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I'm not saying they should disband SS. |
Sirveri |
Jan-31-05 10:56 PM |
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because it is fair |
mopinko |
Jan-31-05 11:05 PM |
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I sort of agree, and sort of don't. |
Sirveri |
Jan-31-05 11:15 PM |
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Thank god for somebody who gets the distinction. |
OrwellwasRight |
Jan-31-05 10:52 PM |
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The housing market would collapse. |
Sirveri |
Jan-31-05 10:59 PM |
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Fuck the housing market. |
OrwellwasRight |
Feb-01-05 12:49 AM |
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flame bait? |
Sirveri |
Feb-01-05 02:22 AM |
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But they won't pay it; |
OrwellwasRight |
Feb-01-05 07:20 AM |
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sure ok. |
Sirveri |
Feb-02-05 02:53 AM |
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"The primary purpose of it is to discourage the excessive accumulation" |
OrwellwasRight |
Feb-02-05 05:19 AM |
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Of course dems oppose estate tax. They're rich. |
Sirveri |
Feb-02-05 11:51 PM |
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your last graph is exactly what i am trying to say. |
mopinko |
Feb-01-05 08:11 AM |
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Glad you agree that all should contribute |
OrwellwasRight |
Feb-01-05 03:38 PM |
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LOL...that is the plan...that is what they want --- a flat tax or a VAT |
cthrumatrix |
Feb-01-05 07:15 AM |
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it's not a tax |
mopinko |
Jan-31-05 10:12 PM |
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point is that there is a maximum |
tk2kewl |
Jan-31-05 10:13 PM |
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Yeah. Remove the cap. |
shawcomm |
Jan-31-05 10:20 PM |
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no, that is not the point |
mopinko |
Jan-31-05 10:31 PM |
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Right, remove the cap. Or at least jack it way the hell up there... |
BlueEyedSon |
Jan-31-05 10:14 PM |
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so that rich people can get huge benefits? |
mopinko |
Jan-31-05 10:23 PM |
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Fine. Let them have them, if they paid into the system. |
w4rma |
Jan-31-05 10:35 PM |
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so raising the cap adds nothing |
mopinko |
Jan-31-05 10:39 PM |
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But in your post number 14 you say |
w4rma |
Jan-31-05 10:48 PM |
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sorry, don't follow your complaint |
mopinko |
Jan-31-05 10:54 PM |
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Remove the CAP, AND |
bvar22 |
Jan-31-05 10:50 PM |
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then it isn't insurance |
mopinko |
Jan-31-05 11:13 PM |
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I could sell that to Bubba easily. |
bvar22 |
Jan-31-05 11:56 PM |
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Mo, you don't understand how insurance works. |
BlueEyedSon |
Feb-01-05 07:31 AM |
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bes, you don't understand |
mopinko |
Feb-01-05 08:02 AM |
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Maybe in all the noise in this thread I missed your "solution". |
BlueEyedSon |
Feb-01-05 08:13 AM |
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how about |
mopinko |
Feb-01-05 08:32 AM |
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We need to undo |
Blue Wally |
Feb-02-05 05:48 AM |
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you got that straight |
mopinko |
Feb-02-05 06:13 PM |
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It's not insurance in the normal sense at all... |
shawcomm |
Jan-31-05 10:38 PM |
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absolutely wrong |
mopinko |
Jan-31-05 10:46 PM |
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I'd agree that it's like insurance in that you |
shawcomm |
Jan-31-05 11:22 PM |
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You don't "have" to do anything of the sort. |
BlueEyedSon |
Feb-01-05 07:16 AM |
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read this and figure |
dweller |
Jan-31-05 10:14 PM |
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Great explanation of the situation |
nuxvomica |
Jan-31-05 10:21 PM |
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Please pass on the link, thanks. n/t |
dweller |
Jan-31-05 10:23 PM |
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It already is a flat tax |
sally343434 |
Jan-31-05 10:18 PM |
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right, but the fact theat there is a cap makes it regressive |
tk2kewl |
Jan-31-05 10:19 PM |
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it may be obvious, but it is wrong |
mopinko |
Jan-31-05 10:24 PM |
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Oh yeah? Where would *you* set the cap at that is fair, since you love it |
w4rma |
Jan-31-05 10:46 PM |
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how much do you think the maximum payment should be? |
mopinko |
Jan-31-05 11:16 PM |
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Many of us don't think there should be a maximum payment. |
Telly Savalas |
Feb-02-05 08:33 AM |
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the least the left can do |
mopinko |
Jan-31-05 10:29 PM |
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Just a quick note |
mdhunter |
Jan-31-05 10:41 PM |
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not the same thing |
mopinko |
Jan-31-05 10:51 PM |
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But |
mdhunter |
Feb-01-05 07:14 AM |
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this is wrong. |
mopinko |
Feb-01-05 08:39 AM |
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and, all you need is more taxpayers |
mopinko |
Jan-31-05 10:35 PM |
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So you want to increase immigration, also, to pay for this? |
w4rma |
Jan-31-05 10:58 PM |
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so is taking money from people who earned it |
mopinko |
Jan-31-05 11:07 PM |
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Isn't this the basis for all social assistance programs? |
Telly Savalas |
Feb-02-05 08:35 AM |
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