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Sun Jan-30-05 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #122 |
| 126. It's a comment not an argument |
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Basically a comment made out of frustration after debating time after time that a draft is more than looming on the horizon. In fact, given the PNAC's warmongering stance (And, they are the ones calling ALL the shots), a draft is nearly inevitable.
Since this site is dedicated to "Democrats and Progressives", I'm taking the stance that, given the Dems complicency in this Iraq mess, we need to think more about real change instead of loyalty to the Democratic party itself. I'm sorry, the Dems in upper politics are selling this country out from under us almost as quickly as the right is.
And I'm not entirely Dem bashing here as there are many fine Democrats still around w/ guts IE. Boxer, Conyers, McKinney, Kennedy and Byrd. Much praise goes out to these folks.
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| -Here it is..official PNAC request for the DRAFT. |
BeHereNow |
Jan-29-05 08:11 PM |
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Kick |
BeHereNow |
Jan-29-05 08:16 PM |
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They didn't waste any time. |
FrustratedDemInNC |
Jan-30-05 04:35 PM |
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Holy Shit! You know, I expected as much, but |
babylonsister |
Jan-29-05 08:16 PM |
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The fact that it is from the PNAC |
BeHereNow |
Jan-29-05 08:19 PM |
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I sent this to my totally Repug brother |
babylonsister |
Jan-29-05 08:32 PM |
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I really want to hear that response, too. |
Clark2008 |
Jan-29-05 09:10 PM |
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Yeah, I want my ex-husband who voted for Bush to answer, too. |
teakee |
Jan-29-05 11:38 PM |
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How can someone dumb know HOW to protects us, |
Clark2008 |
Jan-30-05 12:36 AM |
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kick PO in the (_Y_) |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-31-05 09:10 AM |
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Kick |
BeHereNow |
Jan-29-05 08:21 PM |
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Now I'm really scared |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jan-30-05 12:36 AM |
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No, because he initially told the truth. |
kgfnally |
Jan-30-05 01:07 AM |
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And then the DLC fell for it hook, line & sinker andhad Schumer call for |
Tinoire |
Jan-30-05 02:12 AM |
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Note the signature of Peter Beinhart of "The New Republic" |
Tinoire |
Jan-29-05 08:22 PM |
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Oh yes, Tinoire..I noted the signatures. |
BeHereNow |
Jan-29-05 08:24 PM |
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The neo-Liberal NEW REPUBLIC |
Tinoire |
Jan-29-05 08:29 PM |
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the new republic = DLC = neoliberal = PNACers |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-30-05 11:45 AM |
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Where do I get the button |
Nashyra |
Jan-30-05 02:25 PM |
#82 |
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you can get the button here |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-30-05 03:46 PM |
#89 |
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I don't like how they let the admin off the hook |
October |
Jan-30-05 06:17 PM |
#100 |
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The best way to protect this country at this point is to inform and... |
fooj |
Jan-29-05 08:23 PM |
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The masses don't understand or care WHO the PNACers are. |
BeHereNow |
Jan-29-05 08:26 PM |
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I don't believe that. I know many Kerry supporters... |
fooj |
Jan-29-05 08:34 PM |
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E-mail |
Tinoire |
Jan-29-05 08:32 PM |
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Has anyone ever told you that you are a genius? Great idea! |
fooj |
Jan-29-05 08:36 PM |
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Honestly? |
Tinoire |
Jan-29-05 08:42 PM |
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have one on me too |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-31-05 12:53 PM |
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I've already started............... |
AndrewJacksonFaction |
Jan-30-05 11:39 AM |
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did you notice something about the signatures? |
drthais |
Jan-29-05 08:27 PM |
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Orchestrated deception. |
BeHereNow |
Jan-29-05 08:31 PM |
#12 |
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Yes. I thought it was just me! And was just about to look into that |
Tinoire |
Jan-29-05 08:36 PM |
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They can't continue their agenda without poking their noses out |
kgfnally |
Jan-30-05 01:13 AM |
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Check google PNAC partial list and shop around! You'll be amazed! |
fooj |
Jan-29-05 08:37 PM |
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Cheney, Rumsfeld, Feith etc. |
PaDem |
Jan-30-05 08:52 PM |
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Those people are now in front of the curtain. n/t |
Norquist Nemesis |
Jan-31-05 09:20 AM |
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kick |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-31-05 11:48 AM |
#145 |
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These people are evil and should recruit themselves |
theresistance |
Jan-29-05 08:28 PM |
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They use as justification the very wars they planned |
Tinoire |
Jan-29-05 08:37 PM |
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Absolutely, this is really amazing stuff and |
theresistance |
Jan-29-05 08:45 PM |
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Of course their kids |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jan-30-05 12:38 AM |
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DRAFT YOUNG REPUBLICANS!!! |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-31-05 10:11 AM |
#143 |
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Thanks. I keep hearing this song in my head: |
katinmn |
Jan-29-05 08:38 PM |
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This is crazy! I've been humming that song for a few days! |
fooj |
Jan-29-05 10:10 PM |
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Back at you! |
katinmn |
Jan-29-05 10:12 PM |
#36 |
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I'm feeling it, too! The natives are restless... |
fooj |
Jan-29-05 11:23 PM |
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No, but I'll zip over there now. |
katinmn |
Jan-29-05 11:26 PM |
#48 |
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Me too. Yikes.... n/t |
Tinoire |
Jan-29-05 10:42 PM |
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re-instating the draft might be the death knell for bush....but, |
mopaul |
Jan-29-05 08:49 PM |
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I thought tanking the economy would get people riled up enough |
katinmn |
Jan-29-05 10:13 PM |
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Kick- send this to your Bushbot |
BeHereNow |
Jan-29-05 08:58 PM |
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HELL NO!! |
ChicanoPwr |
Jan-30-05 04:21 PM |
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turf war kick! |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-31-05 12:39 PM |
#147 |
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WWWIII - Russia is reinstituting the draft too |
Tinoire |
Jan-29-05 09:02 PM |
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yep n/t |
G_j |
Jan-29-05 09:04 PM |
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Do you have a link to that story?!?!? |
BeHereNow |
Jan-29-05 09:06 PM |
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Several links about why I foresee a full-blown World War down the road |
Tinoire |
Jan-29-05 10:01 PM |
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kicking |
djmaddox1 |
Jan-29-05 10:58 PM |
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O h. M y. G o d. |
BeHereNow |
Jan-30-05 02:11 PM |
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Is there a link to that letter to the Europeans |
Niccolo_Macchiavelli |
Jan-30-05 08:44 PM |
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Here Niccolo. "Open Letter to the Heads of State of EU & NATO" |
Tinoire |
Jan-30-05 09:29 PM |
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thank you very much |
Niccolo_Macchiavelli |
Jan-31-05 06:10 AM |
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kick |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-31-05 07:07 PM |
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Kick |
Greylyn58 |
Jan-29-05 09:05 PM |
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They preserved deniability (barely) |
bluestateguy |
Jan-29-05 09:09 PM |
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Kick cause this is HUGE. |
BeHereNow |
Jan-29-05 09:24 PM |
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Kicking for the lurking Freepers- |
BeHereNow |
Jan-29-05 09:41 PM |
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Unfortunately, |
forgethell |
Jan-30-05 10:57 PM |
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And, as mentioned on other threads, Will "PNAC ROCKS!" Marshall signed it. |
Zhade |
Jan-29-05 09:59 PM |
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First things first! We've got to get the word out! |
fooj |
Jan-29-05 10:13 PM |
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True enough! |
Zhade |
Jan-30-05 01:55 AM |
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I hate to bring this up, but |
katinmn |
Jan-29-05 10:20 PM |
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Gee, Katinmn, |
bvar22 |
Jan-29-05 10:36 PM |
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Hmmmmmm |
katinmn |
Jan-29-05 10:40 PM |
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Remember there are Dems that called for more troops... |
fooj |
Jan-29-05 11:38 PM |
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That's precisely the problem and exactly why we've been calling |
Tinoire |
Jan-29-05 10:46 PM |
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I didn't sign the damn petition either. For that reason. |
katinmn |
Jan-29-05 10:50 PM |
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I know but (if we're talking about same) some of our representatives did |
Tinoire |
Jan-29-05 11:38 PM |
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Hello there! Did you get my e-mail? |
fooj |
Jan-29-05 11:39 PM |
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The first one and answered it... Will check for a second now n/t |
Tinoire |
Jan-30-05 12:05 AM |
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. |
Clu |
Jan-30-05 12:40 AM |
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PNAC supplies the cannons. |
Octafish |
Jan-29-05 10:24 PM |
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for the old testement christian's wanting the rapture to hurry up wars |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-31-05 10:02 AM |
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I'm sorry, you're just wrong. |
Red State Blues |
Jan-29-05 11:58 PM |
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The thing is, the PNAC agenda has become the bush agenda. |
alfredo |
Jan-30-05 12:23 AM |
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Hence all the talk of sleeper cells in the US |
Tinoire |
Jan-30-05 12:31 AM |
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The terror alert went up to yellow yesterday or the day before |
katinmn |
Jan-30-05 12:49 AM |
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Here? In the US? No kidding...wonder what's up now? |
fooj |
Jan-30-05 01:17 AM |
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How long will america fall for his manipulation? |
alfredo |
Jan-30-05 11:13 AM |
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I enjoy your thoughtfulness, but have you read the PNAC |
babylonsister |
Jan-30-05 12:29 AM |
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PNAC Info? |
Red State Blues |
Jan-30-05 12:53 AM |
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as for getting called 'crazy' |
kgfnally |
Jan-30-05 01:24 AM |
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Good tip. Thanks! n/t |
Red State Blues |
Jan-30-05 08:37 PM |
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Wrong? Crazy? |
BeHereNow |
Jan-30-05 02:14 PM |
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Makes you wonder why |
ChicanoPwr |
Jan-30-05 05:01 PM |
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No, No, No, No! |
Red State Blues |
Jan-30-05 06:08 PM |
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Things JUST got worst: Venezuela and China Sign Oil Agreements |
Tinoire |
Jan-30-05 12:18 AM |
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I am happy for Chavez |
ChicanoPwr |
Jan-30-05 06:59 PM |
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It certainly is. And it's letting Bush know that if he takes one step |
Tinoire |
Jan-30-05 09:33 PM |
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McCaffrey? As in MSNBC Analyst Gen. McCaffrey? |
dbaker41 |
Jan-30-05 12:39 AM |
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I'm afraid so. I know he has two kids over there. |
fooj |
Jan-30-05 01:12 AM |
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A conscripted army is an unhappy army... |
mitchum |
Jan-30-05 02:03 AM |
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Unhappy is right- |
BeHereNow |
Jan-30-05 02:20 PM |
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FIGHT BACK!! Support http://www.dougwallace.com |
evolvenow |
Jan-30-05 02:05 AM |
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Another concerned kick |
Zhade |
Jan-30-05 02:22 PM |
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and, we know that the PNAC gets what it wants |
ComerPerro |
Jan-30-05 02:26 PM |
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It will solve so many pesky problems! |
BeHereNow |
Jan-30-05 02:32 PM |
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PNAC treats the world like their own private chessboard |
killbotfactory |
Jan-30-05 02:27 PM |
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I've been telling my students to get ready |
Rex |
Jan-30-05 02:30 PM |
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I hear you Rex... |
BeHereNow |
Jan-30-05 02:35 PM |
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I notice Will Marshall signed it |
Jack Rabbit |
Jan-30-05 02:36 PM |
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well hell, of course he did. |
ulysses |
Jan-30-05 04:25 PM |
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Those numbers hardly indicate a draft |
kendall |
Jan-30-05 04:36 PM |
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You need to re-read that. It's not 25000 total over several years |
Tinoire |
Jan-30-05 04:45 PM |
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Thanks for the correction, but still not a number to worry about |
kendall |
Jan-30-05 05:24 PM |
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What else can be done with all the unemployed? |
Jose Diablo |
Jan-30-05 04:47 PM |
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No draft needed. The election was a success. We can bring home the |
tsuki |
Jan-30-05 06:12 PM |
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It doesn't say draft anywhere in there. |
Peak_Oil |
Jan-30-05 06:17 PM |
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Step away from the kool aid |
ChicanoPwr |
Jan-30-05 07:02 PM |
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My tinfoil is secure and well-affixed. |
Peak_Oil |
Jan-30-05 08:38 PM |
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Disinformation...where |
ChicanoPwr |
Jan-30-05 09:23 PM |
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Thread title: Here it is..official PNAC request for the DRAFT. |
Peak_Oil |
Jan-30-05 09:50 PM |
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Kick and nominate! |
njdemocrat106 |
Jan-30-05 07:09 PM |
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Congress and the people need to look at every PNAC document in the |
indepat |
Jan-30-05 07:26 PM |
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PNAC anthem...could be... |
reichstag911 |
Jan-30-05 07:32 PM |
#106 |
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I think it should re-named to.. |
ChicanoPwr |
Jan-30-05 08:23 PM |
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kick n/t |
Rapcw |
Jan-30-05 07:41 PM |
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ATTN YOUNG DUERS: start documenting your CO status NOW! |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-30-05 07:45 PM |
#108 |
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who's the PNAC? n/t |
Raised_In_The_Wild |
Jan-30-05 07:56 PM |
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Welcome to DU, Raised! This thread has links to answer your question. |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-30-05 08:24 PM |
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ty! n/t |
Raised_In_The_Wild |
Jan-30-05 08:31 PM |
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They left out the paragraph |
4MoreYearsOfHell |
Jan-30-05 08:16 PM |
#110 |
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What I was told... |
ChicanoPwr |
Jan-30-05 08:18 PM |
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Man... These Guys Have Some Brass Balls !!! |
WillyT |
Jan-30-05 08:36 PM |
#115 |
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To all the MMoore/MoveOn loyalist |
clem_c_rock |
Jan-30-05 09:12 PM |
#120 |
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Yada yada yada |
ChicanoPwr |
Jan-30-05 09:27 PM |
#122 |
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It's a comment not an argument |
clem_c_rock |
Jan-30-05 09:35 PM |
#126 |
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What the fuck are you talking about and to whom? |
Swamp Rat |
Jan-30-05 09:35 PM |
#127 |
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Exactly sir, read my post I just put up |
clem_c_rock |
Jan-30-05 09:49 PM |
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Well, some politicians HAVE avoided discussing the draft for political |
Swamp Rat |
Jan-30-05 10:32 PM |
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a draft would be of HUGE help- |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-30-05 09:28 PM |
#123 |
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American Free Press: DRAFT LOOMS / Expect To See Conscription |
Tinoire |
Jan-30-05 09:50 PM |
#129 |
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Who can read this and deny that there will be a draft? |
oasis |
Jan-31-05 02:09 AM |
#133 |
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Me |
DistantWind88 |
Jan-31-05 06:25 AM |
#135 |
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YEAH the Draft!!!! Finally this might wake up the american people. |
RockStar |
Jan-31-05 06:31 AM |
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kick |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-31-05 08:48 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-31-05 10:05 AM |
#141 |
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In all fairness to the Partnership for Nationalist American Crazies |
tasteblind |
Jan-31-05 10:08 AM |
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kick |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-31-05 10:28 AM |
#144 |
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PNAC calls for FEWER troops than Kerry did during the campaign |
Cocoa |
Jan-31-05 11:56 AM |
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BIPARTISAN PNAC????? Ummm.... |
Willy Lee |
Jan-31-05 12:59 PM |
#149 |
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And now, thanks to Rangel, the DEMS will be to blame! |
BeHereNow |
Jan-31-05 08:31 PM |
#151 |
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I need to kick this thread about PNAC. |
oasis |
Jan-31-05 10:26 PM |
#152 |
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