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Sun Jan-30-05 03:37 AM
Response to Reply #27 |
| 111. You could say the same thing about tobacco... |
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It's a plant, it grows out of the ground, it's impossible to tax! Yet, of course, they still do... And it's not easy to grow pot that will produce THC. The plant itself grows fairly easily (it's called weed for a reason) but it is rather hard to get a reasonable amount of THC. Regulating and taxing it seems like the best way to go.
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| -Legalize pot or ban alcohol again? |
UdoKier |
Jan-28-05 05:03 PM |
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Tax it ?? |
jaysunb |
Jan-28-05 05:05 PM |
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Being an intoxicant, it would have to be regulated... |
UdoKier |
Jan-28-05 05:06 PM |
#3 |
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all drugs... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Jan-28-05 05:21 PM |
#11 |
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I agree. |
ProgressiveConn |
Jan-28-05 05:46 PM |
#14 |
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Taxing income... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Jan-28-05 11:41 PM |
#45 |
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Indeed. |
ProgressiveConn |
Jan-29-05 03:53 AM |
#46 |
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I don't know, "sin" can be pretty fun, sometimes. |
Cicero |
Jan-29-05 12:30 PM |
#83 |
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Packs? you assume that people would want to smoke it. |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-28-05 06:57 PM |
#26 |
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If you can vote and go to war when you are 18, you are an adult. n/t |
Raised_In_The_Wild |
Jan-30-05 07:44 PM |
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Not so in this country. |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-31-05 12:20 PM |
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no, it shouldn't, unless you raise the age for military service to 21 |
Raised_In_The_Wild |
Feb-01-05 04:39 AM |
#144 |
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Tax it. |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-28-05 06:54 PM |
#25 |
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Hard to grow ????? |
jaysunb |
Jan-28-05 07:17 PM |
#27 |
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Not everyone has spare property or a desire to grow drugs. |
K-W |
Jan-28-05 08:52 PM |
#34 |
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it's not all that easy if you don't have a yard. |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-29-05 11:15 AM |
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It's very easy to make an indoor garden with grow lights. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Feb-01-05 05:46 AM |
#147 |
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hmmm like tobacco? |
ooglymoogly |
Jan-29-05 11:38 AM |
#66 |
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We tax tobacco |
dkofos |
Jan-29-05 11:49 AM |
#70 |
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You tax the sale of it, not the use of it. |
SmokingJacket |
Jan-29-05 12:06 PM |
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This is actually getting to be kind of funny. |
Zenlitened |
Jan-29-05 12:10 PM |
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Not at all. |
K-W |
Jan-29-05 12:25 PM |
#82 |
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if you think that growing quality high-grade marijuana is as easy as... |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-29-05 04:21 PM |
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Did I say high-grade weed could be grown in a window planter? |
Zenlitened |
Jan-31-05 11:48 AM |
#130 |
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i don't need any type of security system for my patch- |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-31-05 12:25 PM |
#138 |
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Hydroponic and pre-fab growing set ups come to mind :-) |
temperancedissent |
Jan-29-05 03:05 PM |
#95 |
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Hey You !! |
jaysunb |
Jan-29-05 04:10 PM |
#97 |
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You could say the same thing about tobacco... |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-30-05 03:37 AM |
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You should be able to grow a certain amount for your own use |
klyon |
Jan-29-05 06:26 AM |
#48 |
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in case you hadn't noticed, pot ain't tomatoes. |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-29-05 11:24 AM |
#57 |
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Chocolate and love are intoxicants too. |
K-W |
Jan-29-05 11:27 AM |
#58 |
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the societal costs would come from legalized growing |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-29-05 04:15 PM |
#98 |
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You are making assumptions with no support. |
K-W |
Jan-29-05 04:58 PM |
#103 |
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there's a lot of support for the claims. |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-30-05 09:24 PM |
#128 |
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You are lying those statistics do not exist. |
K-W |
Jan-30-05 09:34 PM |
#129 |
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I'm sorry, but you're wrong. |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-31-05 12:36 PM |
#142 |
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I agree, grow-your-own is a good first step. |
Zenlitened |
Jan-29-05 11:28 AM |
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bullshit, I feel like taxing your cookies and potato chips! why is it |
Raised_In_The_Wild |
Jan-30-05 07:47 PM |
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that's just the way it is, friend. |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-31-05 12:39 PM |
#143 |
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Food is grown and that's taxed. (nt) |
w4rma |
Jan-30-05 04:43 AM |
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Marijuana is already taxed |
htuttle |
Jan-28-05 05:06 PM |
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Yup, |
William Bloode |
Jan-28-05 07:56 PM |
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I've heard about people buying those tax stamps strictly |
temperancedissent |
Jan-29-05 02:08 PM |
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The point of that being that pot is not really illegal... |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-30-05 03:55 AM |
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Prohibition was highly underrated (sarcasm) |
KamaAina |
Jan-28-05 05:06 PM |
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Actually I like NASCAR |
Melynn |
Jan-28-05 10:26 PM |
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Prohibition doesn't work |
Warpy |
Jan-28-05 05:07 PM |
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oh yes it works |
ooglymoogly |
Jan-29-05 11:53 AM |
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Prohibition of alcohol didn't work and prohibition of pot isn't working. |
havocmom |
Jan-28-05 05:08 PM |
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"As annoying as they can be, pot heads are pretty peaceful." |
IMModerate |
Jan-28-05 05:16 PM |
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Gets tiresome having to refill the cookie jar all the time |
havocmom |
Jan-28-05 06:30 PM |
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Prohibition of pot is working for me . . . |
CrispyQGirl |
Jan-28-05 05:37 PM |
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I live in SF, it's practically legal here. |
UdoKier |
Jan-28-05 06:29 PM |
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We're lucky here. Possession of up to 4 oz. of marijuana |
Blue_In_AK |
Jan-28-05 09:44 PM |
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wow. fascinating situation. n/t |
Raised_In_The_Wild |
Jan-30-05 07:50 PM |
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I personally think a womens right to choose could be expanded |
klyon |
Jan-29-05 06:38 AM |
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Prohibition is a drugs baron's worst nightmare |
McKenzie |
Jan-28-05 05:09 PM |
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I have always thought we should require violent people to |
klyon |
Jan-29-05 06:46 AM |
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Only interstate commerce of either substance should be taxed |
slackmaster |
Jan-28-05 05:11 PM |
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I can't have alchohol because it gives me migraines so I think |
cags |
Jan-28-05 05:11 PM |
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I can't drink alcohol either, but i don't want to take it away- |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-28-05 06:50 PM |
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You know I was kidding, Right ;-)b |
cags |
Jan-28-05 08:49 PM |
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Please expect Bill O'Rielly to pick up and publish this thread |
Botany |
Jan-28-05 05:26 PM |
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So, favoring marijuana legalization is "fringe"? |
UdoKier |
Jan-28-05 06:30 PM |
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Bill O'Reilly's a hypocritical douchebag and I'll bet he has his vibrator |
DS1 |
Jan-29-05 12:47 PM |
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fighting marijuana is a waste of law enforcement's time. |
Undercover Owl |
Jan-28-05 06:21 PM |
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It has been said that it is a value-changing drug... |
UdoKier |
Jan-28-05 06:31 PM |
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You are correct. |
William Bloode |
Jan-28-05 08:13 PM |
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It wouldnt be so thought provoking if it wasnt stigmatized |
K-W |
Jan-28-05 08:54 PM |
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Finding out that your government has lied to you your whole life |
K-W |
Jan-28-05 08:53 PM |
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How about, as one small step in the right direction... |
Zenlitened |
Jan-28-05 06:27 PM |
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Why do you think they call it dope? |
Kahutec |
Jan-28-05 06:37 PM |
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If it's legal to grow, it has to be legal to sell- |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-28-05 06:37 PM |
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"something is either legal, or it isn't" |
Zenlitened |
Jan-29-05 10:22 AM |
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It's true for people of legal age |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-29-05 11:10 AM |
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Well, it wasn't so obvious to me by your original statement. |
Zenlitened |
Jan-29-05 11:20 AM |
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once you've been an adult for awhile you'll understand... |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-29-05 11:31 AM |
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Once I've been an adult for a while? Nice. |
Zenlitened |
Jan-29-05 11:35 AM |
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quest? i have no 'quest'. |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-29-05 11:40 AM |
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Here's a post that will get deleted, but what the heck. |
Zenlitened |
Jan-29-05 11:45 AM |
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how...zenlitened of you.... |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-29-05 12:07 PM |
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This is a riot! |
Zenlitened |
Jan-29-05 12:15 PM |
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Free Mary Jane? |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-29-05 04:27 PM |
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*shakes head, swears off subtlety in written communication* |
Zenlitened |
Jan-31-05 11:51 AM |
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Actually I don't think that is the case. |
ProgressiveConn |
Jan-30-05 03:34 AM |
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Why not do both? |
LSdemocrat |
Jan-28-05 06:44 PM |
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You KNOW! |
Up2Late |
Jan-28-05 07:36 PM |
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I'd hope so. |
DrWeird |
Jan-28-05 08:16 PM |
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Seriously, what is up with this? |
UdoKier |
Jan-28-05 11:02 PM |
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The marijuana plant has so many uses BESIDES its intoxicating qualities. |
antigone382 |
Jan-28-05 08:46 PM |
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This is the reason for the drug war! |
Pushed To The Left |
Jan-28-05 09:34 PM |
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Cannibus makes excellent fabric and paper. |
Massacure |
Jan-28-05 10:31 PM |
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"A lot of them can't even walk a strait line" |
Speed8098 |
Jan-29-05 06:55 AM |
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A person I know smokes pot, and I saw him walking outside |
Massacure |
Jan-29-05 04:50 PM |
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That is the worst argument I have ever read. |
K-W |
Jan-29-05 05:00 PM |
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So what do you think it was that cuased such odd behavior? |
Massacure |
Jan-29-05 10:06 PM |
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If I could fully explain what caused human behavior, id have a nobel prize |
K-W |
Jan-31-05 11:54 AM |
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And my dealer... |
ProgressiveConn |
Jan-30-05 03:28 AM |
#108 |
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no one I know is advocating drug use by minors |
klyon |
Jan-30-05 05:54 AM |
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You need to try it |
Speed8098 |
Jan-30-05 06:21 AM |
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I've seen drunk people act much worse than that. |
UdoKier |
Jan-31-05 12:27 PM |
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Diffferent people react differently to it, though. |
UdoKier |
Jan-31-05 12:24 PM |
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The problem with intoxicated driving. |
K-W |
Jan-29-05 11:51 AM |
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Any honest person that has used both, cant deny booze makes.. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Jan-29-05 12:38 PM |
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True. |
ProgressiveConn |
Jan-30-05 03:30 AM |
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Driving stoned is definitely dangerous. |
UdoKier |
Jan-31-05 12:30 PM |
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Making shit up i see |
sweetheart |
Jan-29-05 01:32 PM |
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legalise it. but you know what's annoying? |
seg4527 |
Jan-28-05 10:37 PM |
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I totally agree |
HEyHEY |
Jan-29-05 01:37 PM |
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But you're hurting yourself, dirty lungs... ahhh, just kiddin.... |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-30-05 03:46 AM |
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i don't think it's usually the same people, dopers have a live & let live |
Raised_In_The_Wild |
Feb-01-05 04:48 AM |
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Actually, numbers on Alcohol Overdose aren't available. |
Dark |
Jan-28-05 10:41 PM |
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i have seen many anecdotal stories of alchohol poisoning and death. |
UdoKier |
Jan-28-05 11:05 PM |
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many documented deaths from etoh overdose. it's common. n/t |
Raised_In_The_Wild |
Feb-01-05 04:49 AM |
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If keeping pot illegal meant making booze illegal again... |
njdemocrat106 |
Jan-29-05 04:47 AM |
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I'm curious. |
K-W |
Jan-29-05 11:30 AM |
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The problem with legalizing other, harder drugs is they cause people |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Jan-29-05 10:31 AM |
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Not many drugs cause psychosis. |
K-W |
Jan-29-05 11:28 AM |
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no- it's about addiction and lethal overdoses. |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-29-05 11:38 AM |
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Yes. Grouping pot with Cocaine, acid, heroin, etc. is ridiculous. |
UdoKier |
Jan-31-05 12:32 PM |
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Someone should start a DU NORML group........... |
CrownPrinceBandar |
Jan-29-05 11:35 AM |
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There's a Drug Policy forum that seems pretty active... |
Zenlitened |
Jan-29-05 12:05 PM |
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Oops. |
CrownPrinceBandar |
Jan-29-05 12:43 PM |
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Me, too. I keep finding new forums that I didn't know existed. |
Zenlitened |
Jan-29-05 12:44 PM |
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Legalize it. |
AllyCat |
Jan-29-05 11:48 AM |
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Gateway drug. |
K-W |
Jan-29-05 11:54 AM |
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Hey, I smoked a lot of pot in college, and now... |
Zenlitened |
Jan-29-05 11:58 AM |
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most widely ILLEGALLY used gateway drug... |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-29-05 12:13 PM |
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Water is the ultimate gateway substance. |
Telly Savalas |
Jan-29-05 05:42 PM |
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i don't know of anyplace where water is illegal to anyone of any age |
LiberallyInclined |
Jan-30-05 09:13 PM |
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No, the argument is that pot naturally corrupts people |
K-W |
Jan-30-05 09:15 PM |
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That's a point I like to bring up... |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-30-05 03:40 AM |
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Treating it exactly like alcohol is a good idea. |
SmokingJacket |
Jan-29-05 12:12 PM |
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Roughly equivalent? |
HEIL PRESIDENT GOD |
Jan-29-05 01:27 PM |
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FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LEGALIZE POT |
HEyHEY |
Jan-29-05 01:36 PM |
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Amen! |
orpupilofnature57 |
Jan-29-05 02:00 PM |
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Here-Here! Amen! Right on Brother HEyHey |
temperancedissent |
Jan-29-05 02:15 PM |
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But think of the Chilllllll-dren!!!! n/t |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-30-05 03:41 AM |
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Legalize. They are not really equivalent. |
Zhade |
Jan-29-05 03:39 PM |
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I think its unfair to call them equivalent |
Radical Activist |
Jan-29-05 04:34 PM |
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it/s not practical to tax it, people will just grow their own, but |
Raised_In_The_Wild |
Jan-30-05 02:55 AM |
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I'm FAR to busy to grow my own high quality plants. |
ProgressiveConn |
Jan-30-05 03:39 AM |
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nobody has ever died from |
paulie5 |
Jan-30-05 03:43 AM |
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Welcome to DU, p5 |
Cooley Hurd |
Jan-31-05 12:06 PM |
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Couldn't you say the same thing about alcohol or tobacco? |
mrbassman03 |
Jan-30-05 03:49 AM |
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Well, they can if they want to! If you'd rather pay taxes and buy it, |
Raised_In_The_Wild |
Jan-30-05 07:41 PM |
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I'm a pot enjoyer... |
Cooley Hurd |
Jan-31-05 12:01 PM |
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It's already legal and taxed via the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 |
Walt Starr |
Jan-31-05 12:20 PM |
#136 |