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Wed Jan-26-05 12:13 PM
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| 1. Republicans = Royalists (nt) |
| -Privitization is the opposite of democratization. |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 12:09 PM |
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Republicans = Royalists (nt) |
w4rma |
Jan-26-05 12:13 PM |
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Except now the myths of royalty have been replaced |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 12:17 PM |
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It's not so subtle - Corporations have replaced Royalty |
BrotherBuzz |
Jan-26-05 02:22 PM |
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I think that's an oversimplification. |
AP |
Jan-26-05 12:38 PM |
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Please dont redefine democracy. |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 12:44 PM |
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I'm saying that your dichotomy is an oversimplication. |
AP |
Jan-26-05 12:59 PM |
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It isnt an oversimplification at all. |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 01:18 PM |
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I'm sorry, but your terms are very confusing. |
AP |
Jan-26-05 01:31 PM |
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You are confusing privitization with capitilism. |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 01:49 PM |
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Your argument is very vague. It's like you have catch phrases but |
AP |
Jan-26-05 02:02 PM |
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There is nothing remotely vague. |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 02:08 PM |
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I thin the fact that your more recent posts in this thread where you |
AP |
Jan-26-05 02:23 PM |
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I am confused????? |
ClassicDem |
Jan-26-05 01:05 PM |
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Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. |
AP |
Jan-26-05 01:08 PM |
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Why would you use such a narrow definition of government? |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 01:21 PM |
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Ok lets turn the tables |
ClassicDem |
Jan-26-05 01:24 PM |
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Because the government is charged with serving you. |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 01:31 PM |
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That's too vague a distinction. The service economy also exists to |
AP |
Jan-26-05 01:44 PM |
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LOL, no the service industry is in it for the profit too. |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 01:51 PM |
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I'll ask my question again: |
AP |
Jan-26-05 02:07 PM |
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You are trying to discuss non-sequitors. |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 02:12 PM |
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That was not explicit in your OP, and it's taken you a long time |
AP |
Jan-26-05 02:18 PM |
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I guess its entirely my fault that you didnt get my point. EOM |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 02:22 PM |
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It's not just me. |
AP |
Jan-26-05 02:38 PM |
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Slogan? |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 02:46 PM |
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"Privitization is the opposite of democratization" |
AP |
Jan-26-05 02:57 PM |
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That isnt a slogan, it is a statement. |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 03:05 PM |
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All I said that that is an over-generalization that occludes the real |
AP |
Jan-26-05 03:07 PM |
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For corporations to make money |
ClassicDem |
Jan-26-05 01:49 PM |
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So if a king can run our government for cheaper, would you take it? |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 01:57 PM |
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We shouldn't have a monarchy for reasons that have nothing to |
AP |
Jan-26-05 02:16 PM |
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You cant have a soclialized monarchy, |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 02:28 PM |
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A king who owned all the means of production would be socialist |
AP |
Jan-26-05 02:41 PM |
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So socialism is the same as totalitarianism? NT |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 02:47 PM |
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How did you get the impression that I'm making that argument? |
AP |
Jan-26-05 02:59 PM |
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So you think all totalitarian governments are socialisms. |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 03:07 PM |
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I don't expect you to start understanding what I'm arguing this far |
AP |
Jan-26-05 03:09 PM |
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Try not contradicting yourself. |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 03:17 PM |
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Totaltitarianism is total control of the government. |
AP |
Jan-26-05 03:27 PM |
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I will say, however, that there is a lot in common... |
AP |
Jan-26-05 01:07 PM |
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You seem to have read alot of things that I never said. |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 01:26 PM |
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My bad for thinking undemocratic = bad |
AP |
Jan-26-05 01:39 PM |
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You are letting the short term bottom line dominate everything. |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 02:05 PM |
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Everything in your argument depends on WHICH government |
AP |
Jan-26-05 02:21 PM |
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What does socializing entertainment production |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 02:34 PM |
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The government owning the means of the production of entertainment |
AP |
Jan-26-05 02:44 PM |
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It does if the people own the government. |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 02:52 PM |
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I give up. |
AP |
Jan-26-05 03:06 PM |
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Next time you want to make points that have nothing to do with mine. |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 03:11 PM |
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Next time you want to make points but not have to answer questions |
AP |
Jan-26-05 03:28 PM |
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given that the repukes want to thieve the guaranteed income streams |
sweetheart |
Jan-26-05 03:05 PM |
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Are you saying that an economy with any privatization is not a democracy? |
AP |
Jan-26-05 01:16 PM |
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Im saying |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 01:41 PM |
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Sorry, You're Just Plain Wrong Here |
liberal43110 |
Jan-26-05 01:47 PM |
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Sorry but politics and economy are only independent in your head. |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 02:18 PM |
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I could be wrong, but Nazi Germany and Pinochet's Chile might |
AP |
Jan-26-05 02:26 PM |
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Private government |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 02:45 PM |
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It seems like there are a lot of clues to what you're thinking in your |
AP |
Jan-26-05 02:47 PM |
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Im perfectly clear on my points, it is you that isnt. EOM |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 02:54 PM |
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A lot of industry that is private was never provided by the government. |
AP |
Jan-26-05 01:55 PM |
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Please tell me what isnt private |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 02:55 PM |
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If l'etat c'est moi, that it's not clear what's public and what's private. |
AP |
Jan-26-05 04:05 PM |
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Hey, I like that! |
msgadget |
Jan-26-05 01:19 PM |
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You are mixing two different concepts. |
cattleman22 |
Jan-26-05 01:37 PM |
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sorry, you are just plain wrong |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 01:43 PM |
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I don't agree with these definitions at all. |
AP |
Jan-26-05 02:36 PM |
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"You can have a democracy which represents a few... corporations" |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 02:58 PM |
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If a politician who is elected makes the choice not to privatize |
AP |
Jan-26-05 03:21 PM |
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If a politician who is elected makes the choice not to privatize |
AP |
Jan-26-05 03:21 PM |
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You're Mixing Governing and Ownership |
liberal43110 |
Jan-26-05 01:42 PM |
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No, not at all. |
K-W |
Jan-26-05 03:28 PM |
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And what's that "something"? Democratization is putting |
AP |
Jan-26-05 04:10 PM |
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