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Response to Reply #125
126. Man, I must be the ONLY person here who have kids in public
schools who are doing wonderfully.

In FOUR states, we've had phenomenal schools and teachers. Go figure!
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  -A fundies home schooled children cannot Read or Write. TWiley  Jan-23-05 03:16 PM   #0 
  - I'd report them....  Liberal Veteran   Jan-23-05 03:18 PM   #1 
  - Are they subjected to the same rules as the  TWiley   Jan-23-05 03:20 PM   #8 
  - Yes. They are.  Liberal Veteran   Jan-23-05 03:25 PM   #17 
  - Depends on your state's laws. But I would say, generally, NO.  Maddy McCall   Jan-23-05 03:29 PM   #27 
  - So you are saying that this abuse can go without any possibility for  w4rma   Jan-24-05 10:03 AM   #177 
  - Not in my state they aren't.  proud2Blib   Jan-23-05 06:05 PM   #69 
  - How does that work?  TWiley   Jan-23-05 07:05 PM   #102 
  - Many ways it could work. Perhaps the parents work staggered shifts.  kath   Jan-23-05 07:58 PM   #118 
  - Not exactly  sandnsea   Jan-24-05 01:43 AM   #151 
  - Not sure, but  Zing Zing Zingbah   Jan-23-05 10:08 PM   #132 
     - Yearly and yes they must pass. In Florida, if you are home schooling  tsuki   Jan-24-05 01:14 AM   #144 
  - In WI they just sign a waiver and the state doesn't bother them  goddess40   Jan-24-05 07:31 AM   #170 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-23-05 03:19 PM   #2 
  - That is just wrong, but most homeschooled children are more advanced  cags   Jan-23-05 03:19 PM   #3 
  - Yep. I homeschool my son. Thanks for pointing out that fact.  Maddy McCall   Jan-23-05 03:19 PM   #6 
  - I have heard that before.  TWiley   Jan-23-05 03:21 PM   #10 
  - It stands to reason that with essentially a private tutor, you'd do better  Liberal Veteran   Jan-23-05 03:24 PM   #14 
  - That's the purpose of homeschool associations...  Maddy McCall   Jan-23-05 03:26 PM   #21 
  - This is NOT true in most states, Maddy (being able to go to PS for just 1  kath   Jan-23-05 03:31 PM   #28 
  - As I was saying, you have options...  Maddy McCall   Jan-23-05 03:35 PM   #34 
     - Is this a legal requirement, or is it strictly up to the financial  TWiley   Jan-23-05 03:38 PM   #36 
     - What's not a "tough subject'?  elehhhhna   Jan-23-05 06:09 PM   #74 
        - anything that is not hard science is not a tough subject, you just have to  I_equals_PRT   Jan-23-05 08:50 PM   #124 
  - Maddy - do you know if that is true in Calif? That would solve my ...  djmaddox1   Jan-24-05 12:43 AM   #142 
  - Yes, it does.  Liberty Belle   Jan-24-05 01:19 AM   #145 
     - Thank you for the info! I may just try it w/something basic & let him ...  djmaddox1   Jan-24-05 02:08 AM   #155 
  - That is not correct  Toots   Jan-26-05 10:54 AM   #216 
  - Depends on the quality of the tutor.  NYC   Jan-23-05 05:02 PM   #58 
     - Granted, but you could buy a good one  TWiley   Jan-23-05 07:07 PM   #103 
  - From where did you get that correlation?  Maddy McCall   Jan-23-05 03:25 PM   # 
  - I was asking for statistical evidence of any kind.  TWiley   Jan-23-05 03:34 PM   #33 
     - In California many of the public school districts have charter school  cags   Jan-23-05 03:39 PM   #37 
     - These programs are not the same as homeschooling, & by taking their $$  kath   Jan-23-05 04:07 PM   #48 
     - Right, but nothing stops me from exceeding the standards,  cags   Jan-23-05 06:34 PM   #92 
        - I would think so.  TWiley   Jan-23-05 07:08 PM   #104 
     - yeah Santorum 'home schools" his kids on the internets, at the cost of  elehhhhna   Jan-23-05 06:11 PM   #77 
     - Poverty is the biggest factor for poor academic achievement  ultraist   Jan-23-05 09:18 PM   #127 
     - This...  tsuki   Jan-24-05 01:29 AM   #147 
        - Sorry to step in, but I believe the correlation the poster was...  tx_dem41   Jan-24-05 01:31 AM   #148 
        - I suspect it's the mental health of the family-- more than the wealth.  elehhhhna   Jan-24-05 09:59 AM   #176 
        - How many HS kids TAKE the SAT? Without that info the stat's meaningless.  elehhhhna   Jan-24-05 09:58 AM   #175 
  - I was homeschooled and we were dirt poor, and I was 3 grades ahead  cags   Jan-23-05 03:26 PM   #20 
  - The best college students I teach are homeschooled.  Maddy McCall   Jan-23-05 03:27 PM   #22 
  - When I was going through college, my major competition was also  cags   Jan-23-05 03:31 PM   #30 
  - Then you are a College level educator then.  TWiley   Jan-23-05 03:36 PM   #35 
  - My mother did not finish high school, and I scored better on the tests  cags   Jan-23-05 03:41 PM   #38 
  - What is the correlation between poor families  TWiley   Jan-23-05 04:06 PM   #47 
  - I bet the distribution would be bimodal  orangepeel68   Jan-23-05 06:09 PM   #76 
  - I know a fundamentalist couple who homeschools their children  Lydia Leftcoast   Jan-23-05 07:25 PM   #110 
     - One of my cousins (religious, evangelical Christian)  phylny   Jan-23-05 07:31 PM   #113 
        - Their parents were obviously well educated then.  TWiley   Jan-24-05 10:36 AM   #178 
           - Father was well-educated, and mother was a good student  phylny   Jan-24-05 12:40 PM   #183 
              - Like public school - sometimes done well, sometimes not so well -  kath   Jan-24-05 12:47 PM   #184 
              - What about parents who did not finish high school?  TWiley   Jan-24-05 03:39 PM   #186 
                 - Sure it is!  phylny   Jan-24-05 04:20 PM   #194 
  - Do you ask your students where they've been schooled? n/t  phylny   Jan-23-05 07:09 PM   #106 
  - I'm sorry.  cornermouse   Jan-23-05 04:21 PM   #53 
  - Is it that or low standards?  strategery blunder   Jan-23-05 05:31 PM   #63 
  - Well, you know, when the tests are conducted nationally. ..  cornermouse   Jan-23-05 06:05 PM   #71 
  - You're honor-roll here n TX if you can spell your own name.  elehhhhna   Jan-23-05 06:14 PM   #81 
  - I wonder if this is a regional thing as well  MattBaggins   Jan-23-05 06:00 PM   #68 
  - Yup (see my post below),  phylny   Jan-23-05 06:40 PM   #97 
  - Edison was kicked out of public school and had to be home schooled.  tsuki   Jan-24-05 01:33 AM   #149 
  - In MY public school, when I was in sixth grade,  phylny   Jan-23-05 06:39 PM   #95 
     - The way that was explained to me is that you were not doing 12th grade  tsuki   Jan-24-05 01:35 AM   #150 
        - No, the books we were reading were on a  phylny   Jan-24-05 04:42 AM   #160 
  - Please tell the downside. Social?  elehhhhna   Jan-23-05 06:12 PM   #78 
     - Ok I'm back, Yes I think there is a social disadvantage  cags   Jan-23-05 09:48 PM   #129 
        - Thanks. I figure that unless Ma & Pa anre going to also employ  elehhhhna   Jan-24-05 05:27 AM   #162 
        - Sorry cags...I have to disagree..  youthere   Jan-24-05 09:00 PM   #197 
           - You will have to wait and see when your kids are grown  cags   Jan-24-05 10:40 PM   #208 
  - I have family in the Sonora area  sierrajim   Jan-23-05 06:22 PM   #85 
  - I know of home schooled kids who cannot hold a candle to my  phylny   Jan-23-05 06:35 PM   #94 
  - absolutely right.  youthere   Jan-24-05 09:10 PM   #198 
  - It has a lot more to do with how dedicated the teaching adult & the ...  djmaddox1   Jan-23-05 10:15 PM   #133 
     - Actually, in California independent homeschoolers, i.e. NOT those who are  kath   Jan-23-05 11:27 PM   #137 
        - TY for the link, I hadn't realized how wide open the laws were @ this.  djmaddox1   Jan-24-05 12:01 AM   #139 
           - Good for him, challenging the text! Sadly, if he were in school and  kath   Jan-24-05 12:29 AM   #140 
              - No spouse, just me & my grandson. I would go off the umbilical cord & ...  djmaddox1   Jan-24-05 01:24 AM   #146 
  - what an absurd statement. They are as 'advanced' as their  roguevalley   Jan-23-05 04:04 PM   #45 
  - "deep teaching" in the current climate of standardized-testing mania  kath   Jan-23-05 04:13 PM   #50 
     - one of the many reasons I left. Everyone is leaving.  roguevalley   Jan-23-05 10:03 PM   #131 
  - i ain't arguing but can we see some stats from an unbiased source? Pls.  elehhhhna   Jan-23-05 06:07 PM   #72 
  - academically perhaps  Djinn   Jan-23-05 06:45 PM   #98 
  - Not only that, but unless they're doing group projects in their homeschool  phylny   Jan-23-05 07:12 PM   #107 
  - exactly  Djinn   Jan-23-05 07:23 PM   #108 
     - A little anecdote (and it may bore the pants off of you, sorry)  phylny   Jan-23-05 07:29 PM   #111 
  - Right on the button @ social skills. That is the only drawback that ...  djmaddox1   Jan-23-05 10:56 PM   #135 
     - I totally understand that, I moved to another state to get away from  cags   Jan-24-05 06:54 AM   #167 
     - Why don'y you just teach your granson how to fight?  AngryAmish   Jan-24-05 08:13 AM   #173 
        - He has had multiple surgeries - no colon or lrg intestine, missing ...  djmaddox1   Jan-24-05 10:50 AM   #179 
        - I'm sorry to hear that  AngryAmish   Jan-24-05 10:55 AM   #180 
        - oh, puh-leeze!  kath   Jan-24-05 12:49 PM   #185 
  - Who well homeschooled are at faking statistics? -NT-  MHalblaub   Jan-23-05 07:00 PM   #100 
  - No Child Left Behind covers Home Schools too  Vincardog   Jan-23-05 03:19 PM   #4 
  - No it doesn't.  Maddy McCall   Jan-23-05 03:20 PM   # 
  - You are right Maddy  proud2Blib   Jan-23-05 06:09 PM   #75 
  - It also doesn't cover wealthy public schools  salin   Jan-26-05 10:54 AM   #215 
  - Vouchers may pay for them  TWiley   Jan-23-05 03:23 PM   #13 
  - If we ever have vouchers, I hope these people can't get money  bluestateguy   Jan-23-05 03:19 PM   #5 
  - Unfortunately, the trend will probably be that they "double dip"  TWiley   Jan-23-05 03:54 PM   #43 
  - Here in TX you deduct your church (private) school tuition as a tithe .  elehhhhna   Jan-23-05 06:21 PM   #83 
     - I did not know that, but I am not suprised  TWiley   Jan-23-05 07:05 PM   #101 
     - Deduct it from what?  Bridget Burke   Jan-24-05 07:24 AM   #169 
        - Federal tax returns, Bridget! Can you believe the nerve?  elehhhhna   Jan-24-05 09:52 AM   #174 
  - I didn't like the way the kids acted in the Middle School  Big_Mike   Jan-23-05 05:26 PM   #61 
  - We have "zero tolerance" schools here, and some of the parents are  tsuki   Jan-24-05 01:52 AM   #152 
  - I'm guessing those kids' parents chose H'schooling becasue of lack of...  elehhhhna   Jan-23-05 06:17 PM   #82 
  - I guess it depends upon where you live.  phylny   Jan-23-05 06:53 PM   #99 
     - In San Antonio, each child gets a wonderful remedial education.  carpetbagger   Jan-24-05 10:26 PM   #207 
  - I have a friend ...  youthere   Jan-24-05 09:18 PM   #199 
  - NCLB =  WakeMeUp   Jan-23-05 03:20 PM   #7 
  - I homeschool my son...  Maddy McCall   Jan-23-05 03:22 PM   #12 
  - I am happy for you and your son  WakeMeUp   Jan-23-05 03:28 PM   #24 
     - Think about what you are saying...  Maddy McCall   Jan-23-05 03:32 PM   #31 
        - I'm not saying that is what I would want  WakeMeUp   Jan-23-05 03:46 PM   #42 
           - Every state has different regulations on homeschooling  youthere   Jan-24-05 09:29 PM   #200 
  - Well, as I posted below, I had to take tests when I was homeschooled.  antigone382   Jan-23-05 03:25 PM   #16 
     - I agree with you  WakeMeUp   Jan-23-05 03:31 PM   #29 
     - Sure it's a GED but they're still the Valedictorian of the Class...  elehhhhna   Jan-23-05 06:24 PM   #86 
     - No tests required in MO  proud2Blib   Jan-23-05 06:12 PM   #79 
  - But but but  purji   Jan-23-05 03:20 PM   #9 
  - They don't  TWiley   Jan-23-05 03:25 PM   #15 
  - Just like the madrassahs n/t  MountainLaurel   Jan-23-05 07:33 PM   #115 
  - Their religious leader will tell them what they need to know.  SharonAnn   Jan-23-05 03:26 PM   #19 
  - What state is this in?  antigone382   Jan-23-05 03:22 PM   #11 
  - Michigan.  TWiley   Jan-23-05 03:28 PM   #23 
     - Michigan has some strict regulations, if I remember right.  knitter4democracy   Jan-23-05 05:55 PM   #67 
     - I have neighbors that homeschool their daughter  Carni   Jan-23-05 06:12 PM   #80 
        - That is my experience also.  TWiley   Jan-23-05 07:29 PM   #112 
           - I think homeschooling can be a positive approach  Carni   Jan-23-05 07:44 PM   #117 
  - They must not live in Illinois.  Cuban_Liberal   Jan-23-05 03:25 PM   #18 
  - Actually, Illinois does NOT require standardized testing.  kath   Jan-23-05 03:43 PM   #39 
  - I've known a few homeschoolers in this category  Modem Butterfly   Jan-23-05 03:29 PM   #25 
  - Interesting...My niece is in a fundmental religious school.  Jazzgirl   Jan-23-05 03:29 PM   #26 
  - Maybe it would be better to whisk her off to a public school.  TWiley   Jan-23-05 03:43 PM   #40 
  - answering a few home school questions  BigEdMustapha   Jan-23-05 03:34 PM   #32 
  - Great post, BigEdMustapha. Welcome to DU.  Taxloss   Jan-23-05 03:45 PM   #41 
  - thanks for your great post, BEM. Especially #3.  kath   Jan-23-05 04:05 PM   #46 
  - you are right, Mommy, if your kids love to read, the rest will follow  I_equals_PRT   Jan-23-05 06:08 PM   #73 
     - Excellent point!  elehhhhna   Jan-23-05 06:27 PM   #87 
  - Welcome to DU Big Ed  TWiley   Jan-23-05 04:11 PM   #49 
  - Good plan, Poppy! I like it! n/t  I_equals_PRT   Jan-23-05 06:05 PM   #70 
  - This makes me sick, just sick enough to vomit....  givemebackmycountry   Jan-23-05 04:03 PM   #44 
  - 10 bucks says they're just waiting for the Apocolypse, anyway.-  elehhhhna   Jan-23-05 06:29 PM   #89 
     - Yer not that far off  TWiley   Jan-23-05 07:31 PM   #114 
        - makes sense. (!?!)  elehhhhna   Jan-24-05 05:28 AM   #163 
  - Unbelievable  richmwill   Jan-23-05 04:16 PM   #51 
  - We should encourage this.  queeg   Jan-23-05 04:18 PM   #52 
  - Darwin Rules!  annabanana   Jan-23-05 05:20 PM   #60 
  - Good news: they'll enlist in the mil (preventing a general draft I hope)-  elehhhhna   Jan-23-05 06:32 PM   #91 
  - Bzzzzzt  RPM   Jan-23-05 07:09 PM   #105 
     - that was back in the day when the Mil could be picky...  elehhhhna   Jan-24-05 05:29 AM   #164 
  - Actually, you make a good point.  TWiley   Jan-24-05 04:02 AM   #158 
  - Then they're just as good as public school kids! /eom  ChairOne   Jan-23-05 04:27 PM   #54 
  - I haven't found any decent statistics on homeschooling.  Baconfoot   Jan-23-05 04:43 PM   #55 
  - How can they have an understanding of the scriptures if they can't  EC   Jan-23-05 04:53 PM   #56 
  - Look, his kid is poorly educated an the scripure thing is all he's got  elehhhhna   Jan-23-05 06:31 PM   #90 
  - they don't need to understand..  youthere   Jan-24-05 09:34 PM   #201 
  - there are plenty of children these ages  thinkingwoman   Jan-23-05 04:55 PM   #57 
  - It's all about the parents/\.  elehhhhna   Jan-23-05 06:34 PM   #93 
  - yes! Homeschooling  thinkingwoman   Jan-23-05 06:40 PM   #96 
  - Abso-tutely, thinkingwoman! Here in OK, despite >100 years of compulsory  kath   Jan-23-05 08:08 PM   #120 
     - An interesting sidebar, we were the most literate nation on earth during  tsuki   Jan-24-05 02:01 AM   #153 
        - Re: higher literacy rates in the past: John Taylor Gatto,  kath   Jan-24-05 02:28 AM   #157 
        - Only id f you count white men. The women and the slaves were not highly  elehhhhna   Jan-24-05 05:31 AM   #165 
  - How awful.  Cleita   Jan-23-05 05:14 PM   #59 
  - A fundiies...  Clyde Bruckman   Jan-23-05 05:28 PM   #62 
  - Fundie is short for Fundamentalists  TWiley   Jan-23-05 07:24 PM   #109 
  - How do they get away with that?  Solly Mack   Jan-23-05 05:34 PM   #64 
  - Liberals should home school so that they can actually teach science  I_equals_PRT   Jan-23-05 05:36 PM   #65 
  - We still need public schools.  Bridget Burke   Jan-24-05 07:32 AM   #171 
  - yes, actually, english was my strong point, ever hear of informal writing?  I_equals_PRT   Jan-24-05 03:57 PM   #189 
  - I offer you a standing ovation!!!!!!  youthere   Jan-24-05 09:41 PM   #202 
  - What the...?  sakabatou   Jan-23-05 05:46 PM   #66 
  - " Aren't schools supposed to help us become independent and become good  kath   Jan-23-05 06:22 PM   #84 
     - Not in my History Class  sakabatou   Jan-23-05 06:29 PM   #88 
     - You don't know how lucky you are. Son's American Democracy teacher  tsuki   Jan-24-05 02:06 AM   #154 
     - One would hope so, but that is not the case in some groups.  TWiley   Jan-23-05 07:35 PM   #116 
     - "teaching children how to think" - That's the BIG plus of home schooling.  djmaddox1   Jan-23-05 11:31 PM   #138 
     - Public schools are stuck in the industrial age  ultraist   Jan-23-05 08:53 PM   #125 
        - Man, I must be the ONLY person here who have kids in public  phylny   Jan-23-05 08:59 PM   #126 
           - You are not the only one.  murielm99   Jan-23-05 10:51 PM   #134 
  - My homeschooled nephew and nieces are being schooled by my  leesa   Jan-23-05 08:01 PM   #119 
  - Leesa,  flpeach   Jan-23-05 08:20 PM   #121 
  - Hm! Maybe you'd better help them expand thier horizons a bit, Auntie  I_equals_PRT   Jan-23-05 08:47 PM   #123 
  - My apologies to homeschoolers here.. but..  progressivebydesign   Jan-23-05 09:22 PM   #128 
     - What do you base that oppinion on?  ultraist   Jan-23-05 09:53 PM   #130 
     - But eventually that homeschooled child has to grow up and live and work  cags   Jan-24-05 11:44 AM   #182 
        - Homeschooled children do have friends  ultraist   Jan-24-05 03:49 PM   #187 
           - That was my point  cags   Jan-24-05 03:56 PM   #188 
              - I see  ultraist   Jan-24-05 04:02 PM   #190 
                 - You can say the same for public schooled children as well  cags   Jan-24-05 04:19 PM   #193 
                    - Social skills are learned and not the same as personality traits  ultraist   Jan-24-05 07:18 PM   #195 
                       - Families are most important  cags   Jan-24-05 08:35 PM   #196 
                          - I agree, both pose pros and cons  ultraist   Jan-24-05 10:51 PM   #209 
                             - Hey, I'm hyper competitive, and I was home schooled, Are you trying to say  cags   Jan-24-05 11:06 PM   #210 
     - I am gonna support you on this, even though I might get flamed.  murielm99   Jan-23-05 11:08 PM   #136 
     - Re: I am gonna support you on this, even though I might get flamed  BigEdMustapha   Jan-24-05 11:26 AM   #181 
     - There's no doubt about it...  youthere   Jan-24-05 09:58 PM   #204 
     - And then there's a place called Texas...  carpetbagger   Jan-24-05 10:23 PM   #206 
  - NCLB does not apply to homeschoolers  LeftyMom   Jan-23-05 08:24 PM   #122 
  - Honestly! I have a question.  jokerman93   Jan-24-05 12:32 AM   #141 
  - Try this answer on  TWiley   Jan-24-05 04:07 AM   #159 
  - Children in Florida that are home schooled must take the same tests  tsuki   Jan-24-05 01:10 AM   #143 
  - I'm sorry, but this is child abuse  depakid   Jan-24-05 02:19 AM   #156 
  - Homeschooling helps if you have a special needs one as well  vetwife   Jan-24-05 05:16 AM   #161 
  - RE: "A fundies home schooled children cannot Read or Write."  eauclaireliberal   Jan-24-05 05:32 AM   #166 
  - NY is regulated..i home-schooled for 7 years. now both have been in  ElsewheresDaughter   Jan-24-05 07:20 AM   #168 
  - That's odd. You think they would at least learn how to read  ComerPerro   Jan-24-05 07:52 AM   #172 
  - Well, neither can the president  SiouxJ   Jan-24-05 04:05 PM   #191 
  - A co-worker of mine homeschooled her kids, and she herself did not know  Stephanie   Jan-24-05 04:09 PM   #192 
  - I had to explain to a mother who was homeschooling her children  superconnected   Jan-24-05 09:45 PM   #203 
  - Well, Chimpyshit himself didn't know the functions of the 3 branches of  kath   Jan-25-05 02:33 AM   #211 
  - How about standardizing homeschooling?  fortyfeetunder   Jan-24-05 10:13 PM   #205 
     - hey, kreampuff librul!  eauclaireliberal   Jan-25-05 11:18 AM   #212 
     - yes  superconnected   Jan-25-05 03:46 PM   #213 
     - It would make sense to do that.  TWiley   Jan-26-05 10:32 AM   #214 
 

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