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35. I know the theory...
But here you're talking about this thing that's never been seen. And I don't understand how you can vouch for its existence, and all of its attributes, when you've never seen it.

You can show me all the gadgets that "pick up" photons all you want (the eye, supposedly, being one of them), but you still haven't shown me a photon. You're just showing me a gadget being affected in some way, no matter how consistently, given certain conditions.
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  -Is the belief in theoretical science a prerequisite for being a liberal? BullGooseLoony  Jan-17-05 08:49 PM   #0 
  - No, but it should be a prereq to graduate high school.  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 08:50 PM   #1 
  - What about graduating college, though?  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 08:51 PM   #2 
  - Nope, too late. Get it in HS and NEVER lose it.  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 08:52 PM   #3 
     - ????  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 08:54 PM   #5 
     - I guess you are. Sorry if my reply is confusing.  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 08:59 PM   #11 
     - K, after your third edit-  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:03 PM   #17 
        - Your understanding of science is weak.  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 09:13 PM   #27 
           - That space is bent.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:15 PM   #31 
              - Which is???  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 09:18 PM   #34 
                 - I just said it...space is bent by matter,  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:31 PM   #54 
                    - No, not a vacuum.  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 09:44 PM   #60 
                       - I didn't mean a literal vacuum...  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:53 PM   #63 
                          - They did, they do, they match. End of story.  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 09:54 PM   #64 
                             - Uh huh- and how did it match up with electromagnetism? nt  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:58 PM   #66 
                                - Just fine. Were not talking unified field theories here.  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 10:09 PM   #74 
                                   - If you can't unify them, they don't match up.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 10:10 PM   #76 
                                      - I offer no theory. Is that the theory you wish to oppose?  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 10:14 PM   #78 
                                         - I'm just asking how two seemingly different systems  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 10:18 PM   #80 
                                            - Humans have managed to "unify" the mathematics of ALL THE FORCES  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 10:24 PM   #84 
                                               - If reasoning is contradicting itself, there's nothing wrong with reason...  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 10:27 PM   #87 
                                                  - This thread just jumped the shark for me.  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 10:28 PM   #89 
                                                  - LOL n/t  VioletLake   Jan-17-05 10:29 PM   #90 
  - Thaaaanks.  latteromden   Jan-17-05 09:35 PM   #56 
  - It depends on what you mean by a belief in theoretical science  bryant69   Jan-17-05 08:54 PM   #4 
  - No, it would not preclude a belief in God.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 08:55 PM   #6 
  - Yes, IMHO.  DrWeird   Jan-17-05 08:57 PM   #9 
  - Why? nt  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:00 PM   #12 
     - Because using computers without believing in electrons...  DrWeird   Jan-17-05 09:00 PM   #13 
        - But...you can see the sand.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:01 PM   #14 
           - No, you're seeing photons that reflect off of the sand.  DrWeird   Jan-17-05 09:06 PM   #20 
              - Photons...  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:08 PM   #23 
              - No, there are numerous ways to detect photons.  DrWeird   Jan-17-05 09:15 PM   #30 
                 - I know the theory...  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:18 PM   #35 
                    - That's because I don't have to see something to believe it's real.  DrWeird   Jan-17-05 09:21 PM   #40 
                       - Germs are observable.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:23 PM   #43 
                          - You need a microscope.  DrWeird   Jan-17-05 09:25 PM   #46 
                             - No, it's not.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:27 PM   #50 
                                - That is your argument.  DrWeird   Jan-17-05 09:29 PM   #52 
                                   - No, it's not- because  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:33 PM   #55 
              - Technically you don't even see photons  Az   Jan-17-05 09:19 PM   #36 
  - As I said earlier, no, but it should be a prereq to graduate high school.  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 09:17 PM   #33 
     - I think you should know the theory.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:22 PM   #41 
        - Define "theory." Then we may get somewhere.  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 09:23 PM   #42 
  - Go to church to address your theological issues.  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 08:56 PM   #7 
     - Studying philosophy helps with them, too,  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:13 PM   #26 
  - You mean belief in evolution?  DrWeird   Jan-17-05 08:56 PM   #8 
  - Yes, string theory would be an excellent example.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 08:59 PM   #10 
  - Molecules are observable.  DrWeird   Jan-17-05 09:02 PM   #16 
     - Molecules aren't directly observable.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:05 PM   #19 
        - And optical microscopes use different mediums...  DrWeird   Jan-17-05 09:07 PM   #22 
           - Yes, but those aren't electronic.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:10 PM   #24 
              - So are electron microscopes.  DrWeird   Jan-17-05 09:15 PM   #32 
  - I disagree.  Undercover Owl   Jan-17-05 09:01 PM   #15 
     - Are we asking what should be or what is?  DrWeird   Jan-17-05 09:03 PM   #18 
     - I would go further and say that a Christian could not support war.  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 09:21 PM   #39 
        - Well, I could have gone on.  DrWeird   Jan-17-05 09:26 PM   #48 
           - NP. nt  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 09:26 PM   #49 
     - That wasn't the question.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:06 PM   #21 
        - were you replying to me?  Undercover Owl   Jan-17-05 09:12 PM   #25 
        - Well, I guess I'm replying to both  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:14 PM   #29 
        - Since when is being skeptical stupid?  DrWeird   Jan-17-05 09:19 PM   #37 
           - The existence of things such as electrons  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:26 PM   #47 
              - Oh, yes they have.  DrWeird   Jan-17-05 09:29 PM   #51 
                 - Nowhere near the same thing.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:37 PM   #57 
                    - They're lying.  DrWeird   Jan-17-05 09:38 PM   #58 
                       - Now THAT'S ridiculous.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:42 PM   #59 
                          - Indirect experiments vs. eye witness testimony.  DrWeird   Jan-17-05 09:45 PM   #61 
                             - The reliability of eye-witness testimony depends on the  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:48 PM   #62 
  - Yes  JDPriestly   Jan-17-05 09:14 PM   #28 
  - I'm really not talking about God, here.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:20 PM   #38 
     - Bull Goose Loony: I think you misunderstood me.  Undercover Owl   Jan-17-05 09:24 PM   #44 
  - Look, the answer must be "no" because 97% of Americans don't  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 09:24 PM   #45 
  - something else  Kenneth ken   Jan-17-05 09:31 PM   #53 
  - Do you believe that the earth is 6,000-odd years old? n/t  VioletLake   Jan-17-05 09:58 PM   #65 
  - NO, GODDAMMIT.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 09:59 PM   #67 
     - I have direct evidence that the Earth might be as young as 45 years old  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 10:01 PM   #69 
     - My grandfather was here 85 years ago.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 10:04 PM   #72 
        - That's HIS story.  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 10:11 PM   #77 
           - Now you're just being irrational.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 10:21 PM   #83 
              - But...could you prove otherwise?  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 10:25 PM   #86 
                 - PROVE it?  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 10:35 PM   #93 
     - I didn't think you did.  VioletLake   Jan-17-05 10:03 PM   #71 
        - I want some PROOF. I don't want made up  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 10:06 PM   #73 
           - Is there something you do "believe" in, BullGooseLoony?  VioletLake   Jan-17-05 10:18 PM   #81 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-17-05 10:31 PM   #91 
                 - Ha indeed.  VioletLake   Jan-17-05 10:36 PM   #94 
  - I have never seen that the Earth is round.  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 10:00 PM   #68 
     - We have satellite pictures of the Earth.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 10:03 PM   #70 
        - Me. Personally. My own 2 eyes. Get it?  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 10:10 PM   #75 
           - Proof for an ordinary assertion can simply be the  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 10:15 PM   #79 
              - So reality is a democratic, like in the dark ages when most people  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 10:19 PM   #82 
                 - Actually, many historians say that most people knew that the Earth  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 10:25 PM   #85 
                    - Obviously you don't know your bro is a pathological liar.  BlueEyedSon   Jan-17-05 10:27 PM   #88 
                       - I have no reason to think he is.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-17-05 10:33 PM   #92 
                          - While I disagree with you  Boosterman   Jan-17-05 11:56 PM   #95 
 

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