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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 12:24 AM
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17. I am talking about sheer numbers
There are millions of bacteria in a teaspoon of soil, for example. If you were to extrapolate out to the whole Earth, those numbers would completely dwarf numbers of people, animals, etc. The first organisms were simple single celled organisms. So I am talking about probability when I say that if we find life on other planets, it is likely to be microscopic. Life requires such a special set of circumstances to even exist that it must be exceedingly rare. For those conditions that existed at the dawn of time on this planet to occur again, the likelihood is vanishingly small. Again Carl Sagan is the authority on this issue. He explains all this much better than I can.
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  -ET Visitors: Scientists See High Likelihood CarpeVeritas  Jan-15-05 10:29 PM   #0 
  - I, for one, welcome our new Alien Overlords!  benburch   Jan-15-05 10:38 PM   #1 
  - I've often thought the same thing.  shraby   Jan-15-05 10:43 PM   #2 
  - not just the rise of civilization-  CarpeVeritas   Jan-16-05 12:12 AM   #11 
  - I've thought this too.  Lizzie Borden   Jan-16-05 07:31 PM   #44 
  - They're coming here to permanently install tinfoil hats on freepers.  jhuth   Jan-15-05 10:43 PM   #3 
  - Interesting post  AverageJoe   Jan-15-05 10:43 PM   #4 
  - How can  geomon666   Jan-15-05 11:13 PM   #5 
     - I don't think it's arrogant.  girl gone mad   Jan-16-05 07:39 PM   #46 
  - To me the BIG question is...  Ready4Change   Jan-15-05 11:24 PM   #6 
  - there might be other possibilities than faster-than-light travel-  CarpeVeritas   Jan-16-05 12:17 PM   #24 
  - By FTL I mean any means of travel quicker than light speed.  Ready4Change   Jan-16-05 09:14 PM   #52 
  - this has been addressed  amazona   Jan-16-05 06:19 PM   #41 
  - There are different theories out now that address FTL travel...  Autobot77   Jan-16-05 07:46 PM   #47 
  - the vast majority of life on this planet is bacterial  alarimer   Jan-15-05 11:26 PM   #7 
  - Indeed  AverageJoe   Jan-15-05 11:46 PM   #8 
  - All those "sightings" can be explained  alarimer   Jan-16-05 12:18 AM   #13 
     - Did it ever occur to you  AverageJoe   Jan-16-05 12:50 AM   #19 
     - huh  kgfnally   Jan-16-05 12:19 PM   #25 
     - Please explain this......cause for 20 years I've been trying to...  Viva_La_Revolution   Jan-16-05 12:26 PM   #27 
     - No sound from that light either, I'll wager  Lorien   Jan-16-05 05:34 PM   #37 
        - Yea, but it was fairly high up....  Viva_La_Revolution   Jan-17-05 08:57 AM   #57 
     - More than one million people  Downtown Hound   Jan-16-05 01:58 PM   #29 
     - That's not enough evidence to say what it is.  IMModerate   Jan-16-05 04:49 PM   #33 
     - regarding numbers 2 & 3...  CarpeVeritas   Jan-16-05 05:09 PM   #34 
     - My point exactly.  IMModerate   Jan-16-05 05:29 PM   #35 
     - A hoax of one million people?  Downtown Hound   Jan-16-05 06:25 PM   #42 
        - I'm not aware of any natural limit for victims of a hoax.  IMModerate   Jan-16-05 09:22 PM   #54 
           - A good response  Downtown Hound   Jan-17-05 04:20 PM   #61 
     - agreed this is the example I always use  amazona   Jan-16-05 05:37 PM   #38 
     - I know several Ph.Ds who have seen them  Lorien   Jan-16-05 05:29 PM   #36 
     - And how many of "all those 'sightings'" have you read?  Minstrel Boy   Jan-16-05 08:16 PM   #48 
  - not all life on earth is bacterial...we're here.  CarpeVeritas   Jan-16-05 12:08 AM   #10 
  - I am talking about sheer numbers  alarimer   Jan-16-05 12:24 AM   #17 
     - It's not so much about us finding other life forms-  CarpeVeritas   Jan-16-05 12:03 PM   #22 
  - What peculiar logic  DS1   Jan-16-05 09:30 PM   #55 
  - They're too far away. By the time they get here we'll be dead.  jdj   Jan-15-05 11:51 PM   #9 
  - but if they have a billion-year headstart...  CarpeVeritas   Jan-16-05 12:15 AM   #12 
     - I like to pretend to myself that they are much smarter than us.  jdj   Jan-16-05 12:22 AM   #16 
  - any alien advanced enough to visit us will probably view us as rats..  flaminbats   Jan-16-05 12:19 AM   #14 
  - I've a few minor problems with that otherwise lovely theory:  HypnoToad   Jan-16-05 12:22 AM   #15 
  - I have also thought  alarimer   Jan-16-05 12:26 AM   #18 
  - it's not so much that an alien species would be visiting us now-  CarpeVeritas   Jan-16-05 11:57 AM   #21 
  - the way i see it-  CarpeVeritas   Jan-16-05 11:54 AM   #20 
  - .  kgfnally   Jan-16-05 12:22 PM   #26 
  - If we are alone  DiverDave   Jan-16-05 12:12 PM   #23 
  - You say you want Evidence?  OxQQme   Jan-16-05 12:59 PM   #28 
  - Not all extraterrestrials may be good news. Check "The Arrival"  BrklynLiberal   Jan-16-05 02:06 PM   #30 
  - or the"To Serve Man" episode of The Twilight Zone...  CarpeVeritas   Jan-16-05 04:13 PM   #32 
  - "Time" and "space" probably don't "work" the way we think they  IndyPriest   Jan-16-05 02:08 PM   #31 
  - I really wonder how many of us here on DU have seen UFOs or know  Shopaholic   Jan-16-05 05:41 PM   #39 
  - See post #36  Lorien   Jan-16-05 06:06 PM   #40 
  - Me too.  Shopaholic   Jan-16-05 07:34 PM   #45 
     - Actually, it's been hundreds, if not thousands  Lorien   Jan-16-05 08:17 PM   #49 
  - I've not seen one, yet. But my brother  IndyPriest   Jan-16-05 08:20 PM   #50 
  - That is much like what  FlaGranny   Jan-17-05 10:07 AM   #60 
  - Something Jacques Vallee says about space and time  Minstrel Boy   Jan-16-05 09:15 PM   #53 
     - Love that! - You gotta believe that our methods and means of  IndyPriest   Jan-17-05 09:37 AM   #59 
  - We might also want to consider this...  lateo   Jan-16-05 07:21 PM   #43 
  - string theory  LifeDuringWartime   Jan-16-05 08:44 PM   #51 
  - something else I've considered  unpossibles   Jan-17-05 07:31 AM   #56 
  - Then you have interdimensionality to contend with  HeeBGBz   Jan-17-05 09:27 AM   #58 
  - "Take me to your leader..."  mr blur   Jan-17-05 05:26 PM   #62 

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