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Mon Jan-03-05 11:36 AM
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| 22. I work with many Indians, and that's not my experience |
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most of the Indians I work with have more progressive, more democratic views and attitudes than the white Americans I work with. There are some condescending assholes, but in my experience, there aren't any more than in any other group.
For example, I've never seen any of my Indian colleagues be rude or disrespectful to the cleaning staff or the cafeteria workers, almost all of whom are Black or Hispanic (hmm... what's that say about our own society?)
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| -The caste system in India |
NNN0LHI |
Jan-03-05 06:16 AM |
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Thanks Nnnholhi. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-03-05 06:23 AM |
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Your welcome. If you know is the caste system based solely on... |
NNN0LHI |
Jan-03-05 06:32 AM |
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Maybe an Indian DUer can clear this up, but I'll share what I know. |
theorist |
Jan-03-05 06:42 AM |
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I learned it was on your birth record. |
izzie |
Jan-03-05 06:47 AM |
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Caste is based on one's physical heritage. |
MXMLLN |
Jan-03-05 08:30 AM |
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OK, one big thing to consider... |
manic expression |
Jan-04-05 08:55 PM |
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dude... |
2plus2 |
Jan-06-05 04:58 PM |
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I don't know if color is an issue in India. But I do know education is. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-04-05 07:33 AM |
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Heritage, ethnicity, religion, etc, etc, etc. |
blondeatlast |
Jan-05-05 05:22 PM |
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Wow what a rude answer to a great DUer |
Must_B_Free |
Jan-05-05 10:42 PM |
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Don't worry about it Must_B_Free. It takes all kinds |
NNN0LHI |
Jan-06-05 06:11 AM |
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That is not the caste system, per se but the pervasive lack of |
KlatooBNikto |
Jan-03-05 06:46 AM |
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And all muslims are uncivilized |
LynnTheDem |
Jan-03-05 07:55 AM |
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Thanks for saying that Lynn |
burythehatchet |
Jan-03-05 09:40 AM |
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You have missed the gist of my posts by a mile. |
KlatooBNikto |
Jan-03-05 11:17 AM |
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Well, I'm glad to live in the perfect society! |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-03-05 08:20 AM |
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That's a pretty ridiculous post |
fujiyama |
Jan-03-05 08:55 AM |
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I don't know what Indians you're talking to |
fujiyama |
Jan-03-05 06:55 AM |
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yes, it doesn't have to do with caste but mostly about money |
JI7 |
Jan-03-05 07:11 AM |
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How they know... |
JackintheGreen |
Jan-03-05 08:10 AM |
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Yeah you have a pretty good idea |
fujiyama |
Jan-03-05 08:48 AM |
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Pretty close to my understanding of it. |
blondeatlast |
Jan-05-05 05:25 PM |
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that's true.. |
2plus2 |
Jan-06-05 05:08 PM |
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More redneck than redneck? Oh the irony. |
Democracy Died 2004 |
Jan-03-05 08:14 AM |
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I have an Indian student. |
LWolf |
Jan-03-05 08:29 AM |
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My doctor is Indian |
NNN0LHI |
Jan-03-05 08:44 AM |
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thanks for that story |
burythehatchet |
Jan-03-05 09:44 AM |
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You say that as if it's impossible to find an American black or hispanic |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-04-05 07:44 AM |
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Actually, I do NOT say that "as if it's impossible" |
LWolf |
Jan-04-05 08:29 AM |
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"Indians that I've encountered" is not broad-brush. It specifically |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-04-05 10:08 AM |
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I'm Indian. And you've encountered me. |
MsTryska |
Jan-04-05 10:38 AM |
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You're kidding, right? |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-04-05 06:03 PM |
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You seem to harbor some racist tendancies |
fujiyama |
Jan-04-05 09:44 PM |
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I would never impose my beliefs on anyone else. I'm just expressing |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-05-05 09:08 AM |
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I know I specifically believe |
MsTryska |
Jan-05-05 08:48 AM |
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Jan-05-05 11:59 AM |
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You've got issues and |
MsTryska |
Jan-05-05 12:05 PM |
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If you were right, the south wouldn't have gone for Bush. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-05-05 05:08 PM |
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Substitute "African American" for "your race" in your post , |
blondeatlast |
Jan-05-05 05:32 PM |
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I hope I will be able to word this in a way that the moderators accept. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-06-05 08:15 AM |
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Perhaps you should start from a place beyond stereotyping. |
blondeatlast |
Jan-06-05 03:58 PM |
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We will agree to disagree. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-06-05 04:40 PM |
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Why Indians would find english hard? |
AngryAmish |
Jan-05-05 12:32 PM |
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yes - Sanskrit is the mother of the Indo-European languages |
MsTryska |
Jan-05-05 12:51 PM |
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English is difficult for Spanish speakers because Spanish has a |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-05-05 05:14 PM |
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so we should not conduct business in English because it's a difficult |
MsTryska |
Jan-06-05 08:34 AM |
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Now it's you that are stereotyping. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-06-05 04:44 PM |
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Good. Because saying it is impossible, |
MsTryska |
Jan-07-05 08:07 AM |
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That's what you call a straw man argument. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-07-05 08:24 AM |
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then what exactly are you arguing? |
MsTryska |
Jan-07-05 08:41 AM |
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No. That's not what I said at all. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-07-05 10:56 AM |
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to quote you from post #98 |
MsTryska |
Jan-07-05 11:03 AM |
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To quote Spangle from the Florida forum: |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-07-05 04:58 PM |
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Sanskrit is the mother of the Indic branch of the Indo-European family. |
ZombieNixon |
Jan-05-05 06:32 PM |
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I think you know much more than I on this topic |
AngryAmish |
Jan-05-05 08:19 PM |
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Hindi is Indo-European. |
ZombieNixon |
Jan-05-05 06:36 PM |
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This post was unnecessary |
bloodyjack |
Jan-05-05 10:10 PM |
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May I be the first to complement you on your skill |
blondeatlast |
Jan-05-05 05:29 PM |
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I work with many Indians, and that's not my experience |
orangepeel68 |
Jan-03-05 11:36 AM |
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Jan-04-05 07:52 AM |
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you are so right,,,the 3 indians you know are exactly the |
lionesspriyanka |
Jan-04-05 10:42 AM |
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Three? There were four, and apparently it was enough to upset |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-04-05 06:04 PM |
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being racist upsets progressives...its just who we are... |
lionesspriyanka |
Jan-04-05 06:19 PM |
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I don't recall saying that you did alert the moderator. And it wouldn't |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-05-05 09:05 AM |
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and apparantly racism towards indians comes from latinos as well |
lionesspriyanka |
Jan-05-05 12:15 PM |
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Never, never did I put it all together until I came on this newsgroup |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-05-05 05:16 PM |
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Would like to expand on that point: |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-05-05 07:49 PM |
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well since the moderators keep removing your posts |
lionesspriyanka |
Jan-06-05 10:10 AM |
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Never said it was an Indian neighborhood. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-06-05 04:46 PM |
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Why, lioness, the utter NERVE of you. |
blondeatlast |
Jan-05-05 05:40 PM |
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i know...can you imagine that? |
lionesspriyanka |
Jan-06-05 10:14 AM |
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Thank you. My husband is South Asian, and he's the most respectful |
blondeatlast |
Jan-05-05 05:37 PM |
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the best thing is to avoid "them"? |
orangepeel68 |
Jan-04-05 11:29 AM |
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Jan-04-05 06:22 PM |
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You obviously don't get it |
fujiyama |
Jan-04-05 09:57 PM |
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especially since they voted for a Party headed by a minority |
JI7 |
Jan-04-05 11:28 PM |
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I've noticed that too |
Magic Rat |
Jan-03-05 11:40 AM |
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That's probably because |
billyskank |
Jan-03-05 11:58 AM |
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Perhaps it is because many Indians speak very correct English. |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-04-05 07:54 AM |
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My limited experience with Jews and other white people |
fujiyama |
Jan-04-05 02:33 PM |
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Not all of them, not by a long shot. I'm married to a Punjab. |
blondeatlast |
Jan-05-05 05:07 PM |
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those would be the rich Republican ones |
IronLionZion |
Jan-06-05 10:26 AM |
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The caste system is a working union classification |
jmatthan |
Jan-03-05 08:44 AM |
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the caste system works in india much like the race/class system works |
lionesspriyanka |
Jan-03-05 08:57 AM |
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The Caste System or Varnashram as it is properly known |
billyskank |
Jan-03-05 11:53 AM |
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Thank you |
demwing |
Jan-05-05 12:20 AM |
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You know one good thing i can say about the caste system? |
MsTryska |
Jan-04-05 10:42 AM |
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"bear in mind, i'm of indian descent"... |
ChairOne |
Jan-04-05 10:48 AM |
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What? |
MsTryska |
Jan-04-05 10:50 AM |
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If she's descended from Christians who had converted to escape |
bloodyjack |
Jan-05-05 12:32 AM |
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Thanks. |
MsTryska |
Jan-05-05 08:54 AM |
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What she really demonstrates is that |
Must_B_Free |
Jan-04-05 06:35 PM |
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And they'll also put out a pamphlet about.... |
ChairOne |
Jan-04-05 06:54 PM |
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Israel/Palestine isn't the only bloody I/P hell in the world. |
blondeatlast |
Jan-05-05 05:52 PM |
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Jan-05-05 08:57 AM |
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Jan-05-05 11:14 AM |
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Jan-05-05 11:55 AM |
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And defending one's lack of linguistic ability is the hallmark of what? |
ChairOne |
Jan-05-05 12:13 PM |
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Jan-05-05 12:18 PM |
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Wow - holy false alternatives batman! |
ChairOne |
Jan-05-05 12:45 PM |
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Jan-05-05 12:48 PM |
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lol - and what, pray tell, is falling back on post count a hallmark of? |
ChairOne |
Jan-05-05 01:27 PM |
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Jan-05-05 01:57 PM |
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Typing is a low-caste accomplishment. |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-05-05 02:08 PM |
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You're acting quite the Ugly American right now. |
MsTryska |
Jan-05-05 02:21 PM |
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Very uncool to correct another's grammar on DU. |
blondeatlast |
Jan-05-05 05:55 PM |
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I have read that both sides have oppressed the other |
Must_B_Free |
Jan-04-05 06:50 PM |
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Indian DUer to the rescue! |
ZombieNixon |
Jan-04-05 07:26 PM |
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Thank you. My minimal recollection from high school was that it was... |
NNN0LHI |
Jan-04-05 08:18 PM |
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Keep in mind as well how textbooks reflected the world betyond our borders |
blondeatlast |
Jan-05-05 06:00 PM |
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From what I know... |
manic expression |
Jan-04-05 09:05 PM |
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The "Aryan Invasion" is officially a "disputed theory" |
ZombieNixon |
Jan-04-05 09:37 PM |
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Jan-05-05 10:36 PM |
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You don't need a system to tell you the color of someone's skin |
demwing |
Jan-05-05 12:34 AM |
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So--you're proposing an American caste system.... |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-05-05 08:54 AM |
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I'm not "proposing" anything |
demwing |
Jan-05-05 11:27 AM |
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heh. Demwing.... |
MsTryska |
Jan-05-05 11:59 AM |
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Namaste, Mataji |
demwing |
Jan-05-05 02:51 PM |
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Namaste! |
MsTryska |
Jan-05-05 02:55 PM |
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We probably made the error |
demwing |
Jan-05-05 03:07 PM |
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*lol*! |
MsTryska |
Jan-05-05 03:11 PM |
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Holy crap - you guys really *do* believe in BNW societies... |
ChairOne |
Jan-05-05 01:35 PM |
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Obviously, certain castes have less spelling "apptitude"! |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-05-05 01:39 PM |
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lol - I haven't gotten to use "sic" so much since... |
ChairOne |
Jan-05-05 01:45 PM |
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Which explains why you've used it incorrectly... |
demwing |
Jan-05-05 03:30 PM |
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Oh please, a spelling Nazi? |
demwing |
Jan-05-05 02:38 PM |
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No. You don't understand it |
demwing |
Jan-05-05 02:31 PM |
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as i've been saying in going back and forth with this one... |
MsTryska |
Jan-05-05 02:37 PM |
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I have no idea what I said to touch this off |
demwing |
Jan-05-05 03:00 PM |
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I know it. |
MsTryska |
Jan-05-05 03:09 PM |
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We do not have a caste system in the USA |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-06-05 07:27 AM |
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Lets take a step back before we go forward |
demwing |
Jan-06-05 11:02 AM |
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Skin color was the basis for Varna |
Must_B_Free |
Jan-05-05 10:38 PM |
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Etymology of "Varnish" |
demwing |
Jan-06-05 12:39 AM |
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Do you know what vernix is? |
Must_B_Free |
Jan-06-05 05:28 PM |
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Yep |
demwing |
Jan-06-05 06:43 PM |
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the holier than thou attitude to the caste system is amusing |
lionesspriyanka |
Jan-05-05 01:40 PM |
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And far less understood. |
blondeatlast |
Jan-05-05 06:04 PM |
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Pity we couldn't have had your wisdom earlier, but thanks for offering it. |
blondeatlast |
Jan-05-05 05:58 PM |
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Re : The caste system in India |
gorky |
Jan-05-05 05:04 PM |
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Welcome to DU, and I hope everyone will read your excellent links. |
blondeatlast |
Jan-05-05 06:11 PM |
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DUers, the RW media doesn't exist solely in the US. |
blondeatlast |
Jan-05-05 06:13 PM |
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OK I didn't read the article but I read an excellent article about |
sistersofmercy |
Jan-05-05 09:23 PM |
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The former president was an "untouchable" |
IronLionZion |
Jan-06-05 10:19 AM |
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As it happens, the Bollywood "event movie" of the season making rounds |
pandorasox |
Jan-07-05 05:18 PM |
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