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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:34 PM
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65. Just like DUers "hate" America, right?
Edited on Sun Jan-02-05 07:39 PM by philosophie_en_rose
The fact is that this country has a long history of white supremacy, slavery, and segregation. White people made "whiteness" an issue and changing our language or being "colorblind" is choosing to be ignorant to the effects of historical, systematic injustice.

Example: Chris Rock likes to use the term "honky." Just like Sherman Helmsley on the Jeffersons. It would be wrong to throw those terms around on the threads here and the humor in the original forms is debatable. However, it can't compare to underfunded inner city schools, employment discrimination, harassment, and so much more.

A different example of the same principle is the written war between freepers and DUers. I'm sure that it's a noble goal to end political divisions, to be "united, not divided." However, the actual implication there is for us to get over "it." It, in this case, is the lying, cheating, murderous administration. In the face of such wrong mindedness, it's not wrong to confront the issues - as unpleasant as it would be for a freeper to be told that their heroes are wrong and their perceptions deficient.

So do I "hate" white people, because I'm concerned about the effects of things that white people have created? No. Does it mean that white people are to blame for everything? Of course not. However, it's sad to think that there are people in the world that equate slights on a website with enslavement of entire peoples.
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  -Is it okay to hate white people here? last1standing  Jan-02-05 04:49 PM   #0 
  - Did you alert on any of those posts?  Liberal Veteran   Jan-02-05 04:51 PM   #1 
  - I try not to alert anyone who isn't an obvious freeper.  last1standing   Jan-02-05 04:53 PM   #5 
     - Doesn't matter if they are freepers or not.  Liberal Veteran   Jan-02-05 04:55 PM   #9 
        - Fair enough.  last1standing   Jan-02-05 04:59 PM   #13 
  - I think the question should be ...  auntAgonist   Jan-02-05 04:51 PM   #2 
  - are a rarity, and I commend you.  tx_dem41   Jan-02-05 05:06 PM   #21 
  - Do you support them?  Mr.Green93   Jan-02-05 04:51 PM   #3 
  - Do I support whom? n/t  last1standing   Jan-02-05 04:54 PM   #7 
  - It's also okay to hate men, but who's counting?  jpgray   Jan-02-05 04:51 PM   #4 
  - Use the alert, and protest without hatred or personal attacks. I  scubed   Jan-02-05 05:03 PM   #16 
  - you shouldn't hate anyone  ixion   Jan-02-05 04:53 PM   #6 
  - No, it's not OK to hate any race.  ocelot   Jan-02-05 04:55 PM   #8 
  - I'm all for disliking or even hating an individual.  last1standing   Jan-02-05 04:57 PM   #11 
     - Uh, white isn't an ethnic group n/t  Eloriel   Jan-02-05 07:06 PM   #56 
        - Is caucasion not an ethnicity?  last1standing   Jan-02-05 07:11 PM   #58 
  - racism is racism no matter where it comes from  MLE   Jan-02-05 04:57 PM   #10 
  - Your subject line...  slor   Jan-02-05 04:59 PM   #12 
  - Thanks for the opinion.  last1standing   Jan-02-05 05:00 PM   #14 
  - The subject line  Tacos al Carbon   Jan-02-05 05:32 PM   #34 
     - Speaking as an African American man...  slor   Jan-02-05 05:41 PM   #38 
        - "We all know that it is NOT OK to hate white people here."  Tacos al Carbon   Jan-02-05 06:21 PM   #47 
        - How is my thread an over-generalization?  last1standing   Jan-02-05 06:54 PM   #52 
           - The over-generalization is the question itself...  slor   Jan-02-05 07:23 PM   #62 
           - I was careful with the way I phrased the question.  last1standing   Jan-02-05 07:32 PM   #64 
           - kick  infusionman   Jan-02-05 10:37 PM   #71 
  - i am a white person, and i am mad at white people  seabeyond   Jan-02-05 05:01 PM   #15 
  - Everything you said is true.  last1standing   Jan-02-05 05:06 PM   #19 
  - i do hear what you are saying, really  seabeyond   Jan-02-05 05:16 PM   #24 
     - I believe we all have a responsibility to everyone.  last1standing   Jan-02-05 05:26 PM   #27 
        - would there have even beena start if blacks didnt want more  seabeyond   Jan-02-05 05:40 PM   #36 
           - I can see your point.  last1standing   Jan-02-05 05:57 PM   #43 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-02-05 05:26 PM   #28 
     - so tell us how you really feel friend???  rppper   Jan-02-05 05:40 PM   #37 
     - wow what a post  seabeyond   Jan-02-05 05:42 PM   #39 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-02-05 05:50 PM   #40 
        - everyone i know likes porn.......  rppper   Jan-02-05 06:20 PM   #46 
        - Kick  infusionman   Jan-02-05 10:19 PM   #70 
     - Thousands of years  forgethell   Jan-02-05 06:45 PM   #50 
  - lol  thebigdonkey   Jan-02-05 05:03 PM   #17 
  - I agree with you...and since you mention deriding Repubs with  naryaquid   Jan-02-05 05:04 PM   #18 
  - I should have mentioned that, myself.  last1standing   Jan-02-05 05:06 PM   #20 
     - you're very welcome...  naryaquid   Jan-02-05 05:11 PM   #22 
  - No, it's okay to hate white *men*.  tjdee   Jan-02-05 05:16 PM   #23 
  - ...You're kidding, right?  naryaquid   Jan-02-05 05:28 PM   #30 
     - Yes, which is why I had the "silly" emoticon there....  tjdee   Jan-02-05 05:29 PM   #33 
  - Hit Alert on any posts you find offensive.  Bridget Burke   Jan-02-05 05:20 PM   #25 
  - It's also possible to "Ignore" a thread or poster.  last1standing   Jan-02-05 05:28 PM   #29 
  - Or to start a post that points out something that some people might...  tx_dem41   Jan-02-05 05:28 PM   #31 
  - I don't hate white people. I just hate ALL people  IanDB1   Jan-02-05 05:22 PM   #26 
  - Feel the same way here...  Solon   Jan-02-05 05:37 PM   #35 
     - Feelings  jjtss   Jan-02-05 06:29 PM   #48 
  - Oh my God!!  vas430   Jan-02-05 05:29 PM   #32 
  - LOL - did you minimally observe them kill the respective victims?  ChairOne   Jan-02-05 05:52 PM   #41 
  - Many blacks believe that OJ is guilty  Freddie Stubbs   Jan-02-05 05:53 PM   #42 
  - I'm reserving judgment on O.J. and Peterson as I didn't follow the cases.  last1standing   Jan-02-05 06:04 PM   #44 
     - Of course not - that's what the death penalty is for - duh! lol  ChairOne   Jan-02-05 06:07 PM   #45 
  - Are there racists on DU?  forgethell   Jan-02-05 06:43 PM   #49 
  - It differs in that this is supposed to be a forum of ideas...  last1standing   Jan-02-05 06:49 PM   #51 
     - Not at all,  forgethell   Jan-02-05 07:05 PM   #55 
        - It's hard to tell, but I think we agree... somewhat.  last1standing   Jan-02-05 07:15 PM   #59 
           - I don't know if  forgethell   Jan-02-05 07:19 PM   #61 
              - Then we're in complete agreement.  last1standing   Jan-02-05 07:24 PM   #63 
  - Hating people for their race or sex  fedsron2us   Jan-02-05 06:56 PM   #53 
  - You know what?  Eloriel   Jan-02-05 07:03 PM   #54 
  - I'm sorry to cause you rage, but I still disagree with what you've said.  last1standing   Jan-02-05 07:10 PM   #57 
  - Sure, I hate white people...  chaska   Jan-02-05 07:15 PM   #60 
  - Just like DUers "hate" America, right?  philosophie_en_rose   Jan-02-05 07:34 PM   #65 
  - You've managed to ignore almost my entire post....  last1standing   Jan-02-05 08:03 PM   #66 
     - I thought she was responding to your post on target  Kipepeo   Jan-02-05 09:34 PM   #68 
        - I've reread my reply and think it's accurate.  last1standing   Jan-02-05 11:45 PM   #73 
  - As a followup now that so many have responded....  last1standing   Jan-02-05 09:00 PM   #67 
  - You have enough problems within your own race to settle first.  infusionman   Jan-02-05 09:35 PM   #69 
  - Can you expand on that?  last1standing   Jan-02-05 11:38 PM   #72 
     - Educated guess  Behind the Aegis   Jan-03-05 12:26 AM   #74 
  - I FUCKING HATE THEM!!!...  Swamp Rat   Jan-03-05 12:39 AM   #75 
  - What an outrageous post! "Is it okay to hate white people here"?  anarchy1999   Jan-03-05 12:41 AM   #76 
  - Hi Anarchy ! Yep needs to die..We are supposed to be inclusive ..  vetwife   Jan-03-05 12:56 AM   #77 
  - Locking  Moderator   Jan-03-05 12:58 AM   #78 

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