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Response to Reply #96
99. Frankly, I thought the clip was humorous.
Edited on Mon Dec-20-04 03:21 PM by mzmolly
And, I felt the criticism was as much a parody on how the right wing portrays Liberals as it was about the actual so called hypocricy of "liberals" per-se.

For example to say "Liberals hate us because we love God" was just plain ridiculous LOL. I don't think any Right Winger with any sense at all believes that rhetoric in the slightest. However the average Limbaugh listener may?

Make sense? So if you believe that Liberals ARE what Limbaugh paints them/us to be, the clip might be considered offensive to US. If you KNOW the truth, it's just plain funny.

Additionally, I can actually have a sense of humor about my own flaws. For example I did think the "boycott the redstates" for Christmas drive was a bit much. I don't believe in punishing poor people anywhere because some may have voted for *.

So, Bravo to SNL for equal opportunity offensiveness.
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  -SNL/TV Funhouse w/Santa and "Dumbf*ckistan dubyaD40web  Dec-20-04 09:54 AM   #0 
  - I'd like a copy of that too.  Zing Zing Zingbah   Dec-20-04 10:00 AM   #1 
  - me too  marc_the_dem   Dec-21-04 10:18 AM   #163 
  - That is the same guy who does Triumph, the Insult Comic Dog.  Willy Lee   Dec-20-04 10:00 AM   #2 
  - Thank you for mentioning that  GingerSnaps   Dec-20-04 10:14 AM   #6 
  - Smigel  Pachamama   Dec-20-04 11:28 AM   #15 
  - He was a big Kerry supporter  Lorien   Dec-20-04 10:14 PM   #146 
  - I can't wait for the  liberalhistorian   Dec-20-04 10:04 AM   #3 
  - People realize that it was criticizing liberals who divide America, right?  AP   Dec-20-04 10:09 AM   #5 
     - that's what I thought  jellybelly   Dec-20-04 10:15 AM   #7 
     - I thought it was very funny. But it was certainly putting a mirror up to..  AP   Dec-20-04 10:36 AM   #9 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-20-04 11:33 AM   #21 
     - I can understand if people say "who's smigel to say I shouldn't call...  AP   Dec-20-04 11:38 AM   #23 
     - now don't you feel better ;->  bpilgrim   Dec-20-04 12:19 PM   #28 
     - I am peeing my pants....  trixie   Dec-20-04 05:55 PM   #119 
     - Whatever  Sterling   Dec-20-04 03:39 PM   #105 
        - I refuse to be a cog in the right wing spin machine. I'm not going  AP   Dec-20-04 03:59 PM   #109 
           - But you are a cog in the spin machine you just don't realize it.  Sterling   Dec-22-04 01:22 PM   #173 
              - By criticizing it I'm perpetuating it?  AP   Dec-22-04 01:32 PM   #174 
     - It showed how ignorant both sides can be...n/t  Pachamama   Dec-20-04 11:29 AM   #17 
        - No it didn't. It didn't say that dumbfuckistaners were dumb. It said that  AP   Dec-20-04 11:36 AM   #22 
           - looking at stats doesn't make you 'dumb'  bpilgrim   Dec-20-04 12:31 PM   #30 
              - The cartoon was laughing AT Santa, not with Santa. Ho ho ho.  AP   Dec-20-04 12:33 PM   #32 
                 - ah... it was making fun of BOTH SIDES  bpilgrim   Dec-20-04 01:03 PM   #40 
                    - Actually, no. But it was pretty good advice to liberals: drop the Red v  AP   Dec-20-04 01:17 PM   #41 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-20-04 01:18 PM   #43 
                       - What does it matter who invented it? If you embrace it you're no better  AP   Dec-20-04 01:24 PM   #46 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-20-04 01:25 PM   #48 
                             - Do you realize that you're misquoting me?  AP   Dec-20-04 01:36 PM   #52 
                                - Really? You Must Have A Short Memory  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 01:38 PM   #53 
                                   - And you say the same thing below:  AP   Dec-20-04 01:42 PM   #55 
                                   - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-20-04 01:45 PM   #57 
                                      - You need to settle down and think rather than just react.  AP   Dec-20-04 01:49 PM   #59 
                                         - LOL! Yes, It Matters SOOO Much What I Do!  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 02:10 PM   #66 
                                         - You think "Dumbfuckistan" is a good strategy?  AP   Dec-20-04 02:14 PM   #68 
                                         - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-20-04 02:16 PM   #70 
                                         - I have no problem with people thinking it's funny.  AP   Dec-20-04 02:19 PM   #72 
                                         - How Stupid  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 02:22 PM   #74 
                                         - Oh, the cartoon is very funny -- but not for the reasons you think it is.  AP   Dec-20-04 02:25 PM   #75 
                                         - Uh, That's Not What You Said  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 02:28 PM   #78 
                                         - I am laughing so hard right now.  AP   Dec-20-04 02:35 PM   #83 
                                         - People realize that it was criticizing liberals who divide America, right?  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 02:37 PM   #85 
                                         - BTW, you're great at slapping labels on things. But have you ever tried...  AP   Dec-20-04 02:27 PM   #76 
                                         - "Divisive Liberals"  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 02:29 PM   #79 
                                         - The cartoon was laughing AT Santa, not with Santa. Ho ho ho.  AP   Dec-20-04 02:36 PM   #84 
                                         - And Santa Is Real?  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 02:38 PM   #87 
                                         - Oh my god. This is gettting TOO funny.  AP   Dec-20-04 02:58 PM   #90 
                                         - I Am the Epitomy of the Big Bad Nasty Divisive Liberal That Is  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 03:03 PM   #93 
                                         - That got the most applause from the studio audience.  Sterling   Dec-20-04 04:21 PM   #111 
                                         - And by the end, they were embarassed. By the end they were doing more  AP   Dec-20-04 08:18 PM   #131 
                                         - I insult Repukes every time I drive  buddyhollysghost   Dec-20-04 08:52 PM   #140 
                                   - I think you'd have a case if he had commas in there.  Zhade   Dec-21-04 01:27 AM   #154 
                                      - With the commas, that sentence doesn't make any sense.  AP   Dec-21-04 10:12 AM   #161 
                                         - That was the point, AP. I was *agreeing* with you.  Zhade   Dec-21-04 07:29 PM   #170 
                                            - I was agreeing with you. Just repeating for emphasis.  AP   Dec-22-04 12:49 AM   #172 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-20-04 01:17 PM   #42 
                    - The beetwasher doth protest too much. Your hysteria suggests that  AP   Dec-20-04 01:23 PM   #45 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-20-04 01:27 PM   #49 
                          - Look into your heart, Beetwasher.  AP   Dec-20-04 01:33 PM   #51 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-20-04 01:42 PM   #56 
                                - The liberals I believe in don't divide America between Red and Blue.  AP   Dec-20-04 01:52 PM   #61 
                                   - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-20-04 02:13 PM   #67 
                                      - See post 62. That you have to invent arguments you think I made in order  AP   Dec-20-04 02:16 PM   #69 
                                         - I'm Not Inventing Anything  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 02:17 PM   #71 
                                            - What do you think I'm saying that is different?  AP   Dec-20-04 02:19 PM   #73 
                                               - People realize that it was criticizing liberals who divide America, right?  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 02:32 PM   #81 
                                               - This is so funny.  AP   Dec-20-04 03:03 PM   #92 
                                               - LOL! Really, They're NOT Outraged!!! LOL!!!!  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 03:04 PM   #94 
                                               - "I agree with what I said."  Sterling   Dec-20-04 05:27 PM   #114 
                                               - That's the best you have?  AP   Dec-20-04 08:19 PM   #132 
                    - where's the clip????  2plus2   Dec-21-04 08:37 AM   #157 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-20-04 10:49 AM   #10 
     - ...between smart blue staters and dumbfuckistaners...between educated  AP   Dec-20-04 11:28 AM   #16 
     - Smigel Was Just Making A Funny Cartoon  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 11:56 AM   #24 
        - If that's what you need to believe, go ahead.  AP   Dec-20-04 12:44 PM   #36 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-20-04 12:48 PM   #39 
           - It was a series of jokes, that, when you put them together, is saying...  AP   Dec-20-04 01:20 PM   #44 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-20-04 01:24 PM   #47 
                 - Get your story straight. In your second paragraph you say I was right.  AP   Dec-20-04 01:32 PM   #50 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-20-04 01:40 PM   #54 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-20-04 01:45 PM   #58 
                          - Ummm, I Didn't "Come Around" You Did  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 01:50 PM   #60 
                             - Oh, lord.  AP   Dec-20-04 01:55 PM   #62 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-20-04 02:27 PM   #77 
                                   - Another label, unsubstatiated by facts. Can we get the rest of them out  AP   Dec-20-04 02:31 PM   #80 
                                      - People realize that it was criticizing liberals who divide America, right?  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 02:34 PM   #82 
                                         - Laughing very hard, again. I don't back down from any of that.  AP   Dec-20-04 02:57 PM   #89 
                                            - LOL!  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 03:01 PM   #91 
                                            - I know you know I'm right.  AP   Dec-20-04 03:05 PM   #95 
                                            - Right About What?  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 03:08 PM   #97 
                                            - You two are SO in love it's not even funny  HEyHEY   Dec-20-04 07:46 PM   #126 
                                            - "Why don't you two just...  AP   Dec-21-04 03:15 PM   #169 
        - Yes I do agree with that. I think he made an attempt to please everyone.  Sterling   Dec-20-04 05:44 PM   #116 
           - Because you don't want to feel that you've been criticized.  AP   Dec-20-04 08:22 PM   #134 
     - You missed the point completely...relax NT  nascarblue   Dec-20-04 12:42 PM   #34 
        - No, I Didn't  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 12:45 PM   #38 
     - I think it was criticial of being "over the top" ?  mzmolly   Dec-20-04 02:38 PM   #88 
     - The point of the cartoon is embodied in the little girl's statement...  AP   Dec-20-04 03:08 PM   #96 
        - Frankly, I thought the clip was humorous.  mzmolly   Dec-20-04 03:18 PM   #99 
        - It's interesting that the kind of liberal Santa was supposed to be ...  AP   Dec-20-04 03:28 PM   #102 
           - To be honest. The clip did not have my undivided attention and I viewed  mzmolly   Dec-20-04 07:13 PM   #123 
              - I read Malikin's blog: she had a knee-jerk criticism, and then RW'ers...  AP   Dec-20-04 08:31 PM   #135 
                 - We are in full agreement.  mzmolly   Dec-20-04 10:02 PM   #143 
                    - Surely you don't think any of those characterizations apply to ALL red-  AP   Dec-20-04 10:30 PM   #148 
                       - OH My GAWD!  mzmolly   Dec-20-04 10:38 PM   #150 
                          - Sorry got, pulled away from the computer...I hit post  AP   Dec-20-04 10:41 PM   #151 
                             - Nada problem.  mzmolly   Dec-20-04 10:50 PM   #152 
        - I agree that one of the main points was we should all just get along.  Sterling   Dec-20-04 05:41 PM   #115 
     - It pokes fun at liberals and conservatives.  Liberty Belle   Dec-20-04 08:01 PM   #128 
        - It was critical of liberals for dividing America Red Vs Blue and used...  AP   Dec-20-04 08:40 PM   #138 
           - Yes. Wasn't there a line in there about not blaming the kids  Liberty Belle   Dec-21-04 11:57 AM   #165 
              - The only line about parents was when Moby told the Blue State girl  AP   Dec-21-04 12:06 PM   #167 
  - pretty funny stuff  Neecy   Dec-20-04 10:09 AM   #4 
  - Also loved the line "can't bring gifts to the red states because  heidiho   Dec-20-04 11:17 AM   #11 
  - The point of the cartoon was that that was a stupid thing to say.  AP   Dec-20-04 11:31 AM   #19 
     - Maybe but everyone still laughed at it.  Sterling   Dec-20-04 05:49 PM   #117 
        - You have got to be kidding me.  AP   Dec-20-04 08:35 PM   #137 
  - I thought that was great....Rudolph the blue nosed reindeer...n/t  Pachamama   Dec-20-04 11:30 AM   #18 
  - Robert DiNero was Great....  readmylips   Dec-20-04 10:30 AM   #8 
  - Nah, money talks...SNL makes a lot of money & loyalty for NBC...they will  Pachamama   Dec-20-04 11:31 AM   #20 
  - Greetings from "Dumbf*ckistan"!  BiggJawn   Dec-20-04 11:20 AM   #12 
  - LOL.  mzmolly   Dec-20-04 10:04 PM   #144 
     - Nope.  BiggJawn   Dec-21-04 06:20 AM   #156 
  - Did he use this map?  Loki   Dec-20-04 11:22 AM   #13 
  - thats the one.  maxsolomon   Dec-20-04 11:27 AM   #14 
  - heres a more accurate map  bpilgrim   Dec-20-04 12:18 PM   #27 
  - Yes that one.  Cobalt Violet   Dec-21-04 02:59 AM   #155 
  - Actually..no blue states..no red states..only bush voters, and non-  BrklynLiberal   Dec-20-04 12:00 PM   #25 
  - the clip is here  SeattleRob   Dec-20-04 12:12 PM   #26 
  - thank you!  bpilgrim   Dec-20-04 12:29 PM   #29 
  - SeattleRob TY! We have to learn to laugh at ourselves  Sleepless In NY   Dec-20-04 12:32 PM   #31 
  - Link doesn't currently work because bandwidth exceeded. n/t  Zing Zing Zingbah   Dec-20-04 01:57 PM   #63 
  - SNL absolutely SUCKS  mtnsnake   Dec-20-04 12:35 PM   #33 
  - Smigel is always funny, however. Last year's parody of Charlie Brown  AP   Dec-20-04 01:59 PM   #65 
  - WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??  Shrubhater   Dec-20-04 02:37 PM   #86 
  - Yes SNL has been ass for years now.  Sterling   Dec-20-04 05:52 PM   #118 
  - Hmmm  Boosterman   Dec-20-04 12:43 PM   # 
  - It's called "good advice."  AP   Dec-20-04 01:57 PM   #64 
     - Yes, Because We See How Using Divisiveness Has Backfired On Bush!!  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 03:15 PM   #98 
     - You're not trying to engage in a discussion. You're just badgering.  AP   Dec-20-04 03:22 PM   #100 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-20-04 03:27 PM   #101 
           - What's driving you to say everything I say is stupid?  AP   Dec-20-04 03:29 PM   #103 
              - I Didn't Say Everything You Say is Stupid  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 03:45 PM   #106 
                 - It is divisive for liberals to continue to drive the R v B wedge.  AP   Dec-20-04 03:52 PM   #107 
                    - Facts? Really?  Beetwasher   Dec-20-04 04:05 PM   #110 
                       - You are the proof.  AP   Dec-20-04 04:51 PM   #112 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-21-04 08:53 AM   #158 
                          - satire (noun)  AP   Dec-21-04 10:09 AM   #160 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-21-04 10:24 AM   #164 
                          - Democrats will never win Dumbfuckistan  Sterling   Dec-22-04 02:07 PM   #179 
                             - I believe almost every Red State either currently has or imediately  AP   Dec-22-04 04:18 PM   #181 
     - It's funny you go on as though SNL and NBC are platforms for Smigles  Sterling   Dec-20-04 06:10 PM   #122 
        - What in the world are you trying to say?  AP   Dec-20-04 08:20 PM   #133 
           - I thought I was pretty clear.  Sterling   Dec-22-04 01:55 PM   #176 
  - sorry double post  Boosterman   Dec-20-04 12:43 PM   #35 
  - "The Santa I know doesn't divide anyone"  HughBeaumont   Dec-20-04 12:44 PM   #37 
  - Beautiful but totally naive.  Sterling   Dec-20-04 06:03 PM   #121 
     - You're not going to win that war by refusing to reach out to ANYONE in a  AP   Dec-20-04 08:43 PM   #139 
  - Kinda great but not really  Sterling   Dec-20-04 03:38 PM   #104 
  - We hate them because we think we're better, smater, and know the truth  AP   Dec-20-04 03:57 PM   #108 
     - I, too, believe that the red v. blue perpetuates the "elite v.  cry baby   Dec-20-04 04:58 PM   #113 
     - Maybe that is why you hate them but not me  Sterling   Dec-20-04 05:58 PM   #120 
     - I don't hate them at all. But man, you sure do! Do your really think that  AP   Dec-20-04 08:15 PM   #130 
     - I think you are trying to have a problem  Sterling   Dec-22-04 01:41 PM   #175 
        - Why do you think region-, race-, nationality-, religion-based  AP   Dec-22-04 04:27 PM   #182 
     - Why can't you say you hate Bush voters, not red staters? n/t  cry baby   Dec-20-04 09:05 PM   #142 
     - Now, wouldn't that be smart! Wouldn't that be exactly the way NOT to play  AP   Dec-21-04 11:59 AM   #166 
        - Good point , Germany as a whole enjoyed the fruits of Hitlers work  Sterling   Dec-22-04 01:58 PM   #177 
     - Interesting  Boosterman   Dec-22-04 04:47 PM   #184 
     - Your taking the parody much too seriously AP. I never liked the idea  mzmolly   Dec-20-04 07:19 PM   #124 
        - Progressives are prisoners in Dumbfuckistan.  Sterling   Dec-20-04 07:41 PM   #125 
           - I'm not offended that you say I'm a prisoner in dumb**ckistan -  cry baby   Dec-20-04 07:57 PM   #127 
           - Look at my avatar.  Sterling   Dec-20-04 08:14 PM   #129 
              - Right now, at least, Tn governor is Dem.  cry baby   Dec-20-04 09:02 PM   #141 
                 - Yes were are in agreement  Sterling   Dec-21-04 10:17 AM   #162 
           - Living in (stolen) dumbf*ckistan state of Florida  Lorien   Dec-20-04 10:21 PM   #147 
  - Clip was created by Bent Image Lab.  Hatalles   Dec-20-04 08:32 PM   #136 
  - I actually thought it made the liberals in the video look stupid!  Razorback_Democrat   Dec-20-04 10:13 PM   #145 
  - I think that was the point  Sterling   Dec-20-04 10:33 PM   #149 
  - Link to Clip is here  osaMABUSh   Dec-20-04 11:17 PM   #153 
  - Did you see him at the debates?  Yuugal   Dec-21-04 09:58 AM   #159 
  - stop getting distracted by god, gays, guns, unions, minorities, the enviro  Sterling   Dec-22-04 02:13 PM   #180 
     - Who are "they"?  AP   Dec-22-04 04:34 PM   #183 
     - So what are your positions on guns?  Boosterman   Dec-22-04 04:57 PM   #185 
     - you missed my point  Yuugal   Dec-23-04 08:40 AM   #186 
        - And the issues we should concentrate on (& the frame) are just  AP   Dec-23-04 09:12 AM   #187 
  - I told my son that Santa was skipping the red states.  rbnyc   Dec-21-04 12:07 PM   #168 
  - SNL Video available  Coltrane   Dec-21-04 09:53 PM   #171 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-22-04 02:02 PM   #178 
 

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