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Sun Dec-19-04 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #81 |
| 92. Nice rant, but don't go overboard. |
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"He is the only leader in my hemisphere in my lifetime who improved the living conditions of his population"
Do you really mean that?
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| -Castro loving is a problem |
Brian_Expat |
Dec-18-04 09:05 PM |
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Wow. I must have missed some posts. |
Spiffarino |
Dec-18-04 09:18 PM |
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Search DU under Castro |
imenja |
Dec-18-04 09:20 PM |
#3 |
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Fuck Castro! He, the Russians, and the CIA all had a part in Che's death |
Melodybe |
Dec-21-04 12:19 AM |
#146 |
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Did you know that Elián Gonzalez's Miami drunken great-uncle, Lázaro |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-20-04 07:01 PM |
#131 |
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Here's an article from today which adds info. you apparently didn't have |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-20-04 08:02 PM |
#132 |
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Fidel Castro |
jjtss |
Dec-18-04 09:19 PM |
#2 |
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Again, dictators are dictators |
DireStrike |
Dec-18-04 09:22 PM |
#5 |
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Sometimes violence is necessary for a better society |
blurp |
Dec-19-04 10:44 AM |
#49 |
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Good! Then he should have no problem standing for election |
bluestateguy |
Dec-20-04 10:58 PM |
#144 |
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He let the power go to his head |
RagingInMiami |
Dec-21-04 01:30 AM |
#149 |
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News to me |
marc_the_dem |
Dec-21-04 10:34 AM |
#176 |
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I hope nobody's said that sort of thing |
DireStrike |
Dec-18-04 09:21 PM |
#4 |
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Still JJTSS has a point. |
amber dog democrat |
Dec-18-04 09:55 PM |
#6 |
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Yes, I too have a wary respect for Castro's ability |
DireStrike |
Dec-18-04 10:06 PM |
#7 |
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But saying that Castro is better than Batista isn't saying much, is it? |
American Tragedy |
Dec-18-04 11:04 PM |
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It's like saying Khomeini was better than the Shah |
Spiffarino |
Dec-18-04 11:23 PM |
#19 |
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Are you overlooking the hundreds and hundreds of people who die annually |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-20-04 01:17 PM |
#122 |
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Yes, it's a very hypocritical policy we have in the US |
RagingInMiami |
Dec-21-04 01:33 AM |
#150 |
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Speaking of hypocritical, many of us are aware of some very hard times |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-21-04 02:14 AM |
#160 |
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Well I thnk he is better than Bush |
amber dog democrat |
Dec-19-04 07:28 AM |
#30 |
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agree with you |
donsu |
Dec-19-04 10:43 AM |
#48 |
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How the fuck can you say that? |
RagingInMiami |
Dec-21-04 01:35 AM |
#151 |
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No but saying that Cuba |
Slickriddles |
Dec-20-04 12:02 AM |
#112 |
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Elian's dad may have wanted to remain in Cuba |
RagingInMiami |
Dec-21-04 01:42 AM |
#152 |
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Too bad you can't go there to see for yourself |
Mika |
Dec-21-04 07:41 AM |
#165 |
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So you're saying that the hundreds of refugees I've talked to about this |
RagingInMiami |
Dec-21-04 10:31 AM |
#174 |
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Ummmm.... |
ott |
Dec-18-04 10:19 PM |
#8 |
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Before Night Falls |
imenja |
Dec-18-04 10:37 PM |
#11 |
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They're still sending doctors around the world, even now. |
JanMichael |
Dec-18-04 10:45 PM |
#14 |
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Yeah but... |
Royal Observer |
Dec-19-04 04:05 PM |
#60 |
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Link please. |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 04:31 PM |
#62 |
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I stand corrected |
Royal Observer |
Dec-19-04 04:57 PM |
#63 |
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Your understanding is wrong |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 09:10 AM |
#42 |
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Gutierrez isn't an exile. He's Castro's favored film maker. |
imenja |
Dec-19-04 02:52 PM |
#52 |
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Gutierrez-Alea deceased too, info on him and Arenas |
imenja |
Dec-19-04 03:33 PM |
#53 |
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Memories of Underdevelopment |
imenja |
Dec-19-04 09:09 PM |
#96 |
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"all the crazy commie lefties" |
Minstrel Boy |
Dec-18-04 10:29 PM |
#9 |
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Comparing Cuba to the US is ludicris. Try Haiti perhaps. |
JanMichael |
Dec-18-04 10:36 PM |
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Cuba to Chile might be more appropriate |
imenja |
Dec-18-04 10:38 PM |
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I was thinking islands but why not the Dominican Republic then? |
JanMichael |
Dec-18-04 10:43 PM |
#13 |
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Both were export economies dominated by the US |
imenja |
Dec-18-04 10:55 PM |
#15 |
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Why the U.S. blockade on Cuba... |
Disturbed |
Dec-18-04 10:55 PM |
#16 |
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The blockade was US response to |
Slickriddles |
Dec-20-04 12:13 AM |
#114 |
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here you go, chile compared to cuba |
RagingInMiami |
Dec-21-04 01:48 AM |
#153 |
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I dunno, sounds pretty biased, |
Nadienne |
Dec-21-04 10:48 AM |
#179 |
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Cuba and AIDS |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 09:57 AM |
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You have an odd definition of a problem. |
K-W |
Dec-18-04 11:10 PM |
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I like this thread |
Spiffarino |
Dec-18-04 11:28 PM |
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Would you rather live in Cuba today, or Haiti? |
sweetheart |
Dec-18-04 11:49 PM |
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Once again, saying that Haiti is worse isn't saying much for Cuba. |
American Tragedy |
Dec-19-04 12:14 AM |
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The US has meddled with haiti, and not with castro's cuba |
sweetheart |
Dec-19-04 09:08 AM |
#41 |
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Would you rather live in the usa or CUBA, |
Grey |
Dec-19-04 01:57 AM |
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An expatriate living in Cuba lives like a king |
RagingInMiami |
Dec-21-04 01:53 AM |
#154 |
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You've never been there, so don't speak for Cubans |
Mika |
Dec-21-04 07:49 AM |
#166 |
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I don't live there but I've seen then brave shark-infested waters to come |
RagingInMiami |
Dec-21-04 10:33 AM |
#175 |
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Apparently you are still unaware of all the people streaming to the U.S. |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-21-04 10:58 AM |
#180 |
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Would you rather live in the usa or Cuba? |
Grey |
Dec-19-04 02:30 AM |
#28 |
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I might choose Cuba |
amber dog democrat |
Dec-19-04 07:32 AM |
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I've met torture victims from Central America... |
Porcupine |
Dec-19-04 12:19 AM |
#23 |
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Comparing torture |
imenja |
Dec-19-04 01:03 AM |
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A problem for whom? |
bemildred |
Dec-19-04 12:49 AM |
#24 |
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Some do |
imenja |
Dec-19-04 01:49 AM |
#26 |
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Most don't. |
bemildred |
Dec-19-04 08:17 AM |
#33 |
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Poll: Cuban-American interests are local - not Castro |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 08:35 AM |
#36 |
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Castro is a factor in Fla Politics |
imenja |
Dec-19-04 02:39 PM |
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A stark minority controls policy against the will of the majority? |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 06:49 PM |
#73 |
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I agree that the minority has an unhealthy hold on politics |
imenja |
Dec-19-04 07:43 PM |
#82 |
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Because I have seen it with my own eyes |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 08:11 PM |
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I haven't been to Cuba |
imenja |
Dec-19-04 08:35 PM |
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For your info |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 09:09 PM |
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Of course they don't want that |
imenja |
Dec-19-04 09:14 PM |
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I don't know where you live Mika, but I wouldn't believe those polls |
RagingInMiami |
Dec-21-04 01:56 AM |
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I live in Miami |
Mika |
Dec-21-04 07:57 AM |
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If you live in Miami, then surely you've seen on the Viva Bush stickers on |
RagingInMiami |
Dec-21-04 10:37 AM |
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Excellent point. |
Tinoire |
Dec-21-04 02:44 PM |
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I will not be an apologist for Castro, or for the regime in China -- |
DeepModem Mom |
Dec-19-04 05:35 AM |
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Amen, DMM! |
Cuban_Liberal |
Dec-19-04 07:35 AM |
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Apples and oranges |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 08:55 AM |
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that's some heavy-handed framing |
rman |
Dec-19-04 08:29 AM |
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Ignorance & anti Cuba propaganda is the problem |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 08:30 AM |
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It's the same for tibet too. They are better off now under chinese |
The Straight Story |
Dec-19-04 10:31 AM |
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Fine work. Demonizing Castro |
Carl Brennan |
Dec-19-04 03:39 PM |
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Yes, but there is no freedom of anything there, so WTF? |
RagingInMiami |
Dec-21-04 02:04 AM |
#156 |
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Not true |
Mika |
Dec-21-04 08:01 AM |
#169 |
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What good is education and health care is all you're eating is |
RagingInMiami |
Dec-21-04 10:38 AM |
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¡Gracias Mika! |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-19-04 04:02 PM |
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Cuba was fucked before the revolution |
RagingInMiami |
Dec-21-04 02:10 AM |
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Obviously you don't read linked articles and studies. |
Mika |
Dec-21-04 08:02 AM |
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Did you forget it was the Republicans who convinced America to love... |
NNN0LHI |
Dec-19-04 08:36 AM |
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Good point. Also... |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 08:48 AM |
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Cause the ones who object are all in Miami and Union City and Tampa |
RagingInMiami |
Dec-21-04 02:06 AM |
#157 |
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And the ones who support the revolution stayed in Cuba |
Mika |
Dec-21-04 08:05 AM |
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All dictators are evil. |
Dangerman |
Dec-19-04 08:54 AM |
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who "loves" Castro? |
rman |
Dec-19-04 10:24 AM |
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And Cuban children graduate high school with an equivalent of 3yrs college |
indigobusiness |
Dec-19-04 10:32 AM |
#46 |
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Gee, sounds almost identical to America these days... |
HypnoToad |
Dec-19-04 10:37 AM |
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Did you buy Powell's UN presentation? You seem like the type. |
durutti |
Dec-19-04 02:40 PM |
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Plus, most Cubans that have lived under Castro |
Bush was AWOL |
Dec-19-04 03:43 PM |
#55 |
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Link please! |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 03:57 PM |
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I should say most Cubans I've come across don't like him |
Bush was AWOL |
Dec-19-04 04:00 PM |
#58 |
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So, no link. |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 04:29 PM |
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You mean most cubans who have left cuba dont like him. |
K-W |
Dec-19-04 03:58 PM |
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Cuba is a Communist hell hole! |
Padraig18 |
Dec-19-04 05:55 PM |
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I guess the USA is a hellhole too then: |
bemildred |
Dec-19-04 06:04 PM |
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Not even going to attempt to refute such an absurd comparison. |
Padraig18 |
Dec-19-04 06:20 PM |
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Did you read it? Did you compare it with the one about Cuba? |
bemildred |
Dec-19-04 06:30 PM |
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Yes, I read it. |
Padraig18 |
Dec-19-04 06:42 PM |
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I fear we are turning into something far worse. |
amber dog democrat |
Dec-20-04 12:03 AM |
#113 |
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yeah I guess it's OK |
Djinn |
Dec-20-04 09:19 PM |
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Support for violence? |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 06:35 PM |
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What the hell does that have to do with the price of tea in China??? |
Padraig18 |
Dec-19-04 06:43 PM |
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Its from your AI link |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 06:57 PM |
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AI as more credibility in the tip of their little finger... |
Padraig18 |
Dec-19-04 07:09 PM |
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So you support violent hijacking for people seeking illegal asylum? |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 07:16 PM |
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Did I say that? |
Padraig18 |
Dec-19-04 07:24 PM |
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I guess not. But, as to AI's credibility re Cuba.. |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 07:32 PM |
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it's not a straw man |
Djinn |
Dec-20-04 09:25 PM |
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ahem |
Must_B_Free |
Dec-19-04 06:03 PM |
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How does injustice in one place excuse it in another? |
imenja |
Dec-19-04 06:42 PM |
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"The lives of Cuban dissidents are no less valuable than Iraqis" |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 07:10 PM |
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You obviously didn't think about what I wrote |
imenja |
Dec-19-04 07:33 PM |
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I don't, nor did I say that I did |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 07:47 PM |
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evidence |
imenja |
Dec-19-04 08:42 PM |
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Wow |
malaise |
Dec-19-04 07:40 PM |
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All right. If he is so great, why has he imprisoned dissidents? |
American Tragedy |
Dec-19-04 08:30 PM |
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If you worked for Al Queda you would be arrested |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 08:42 PM |
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Hi, Mika. Don't know how they can avoid knowing about this. |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-19-04 09:18 PM |
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Nice links, Judi Lynn |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 10:33 PM |
#106 |
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And they still get by on ten bucks a month |
RagingInMiami |
Dec-21-04 02:14 AM |
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Complete bullshit |
Mika |
Dec-21-04 08:11 AM |
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Hi Malaise! Good post but you're wasting your time in this thread |
Tinoire |
Dec-19-04 08:34 PM |
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Hi Tinoire - Mika is a he. :-) |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 08:45 PM |
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Oh lol! My apologies |
Tinoire |
Dec-19-04 08:56 PM |
#93 |
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Good advice, Tinoire. Sometimes they work "tag team." |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-19-04 09:09 PM |
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Great article. Where was it when that tombstoned idiot |
Tinoire |
Dec-19-04 09:43 PM |
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popularity |
imenja |
Dec-19-04 08:46 PM |
#91 |
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Well Imenja |
Tinoire |
Dec-19-04 09:37 PM |
#100 |
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circle jerker |
imenja |
Dec-19-04 09:52 PM |
#103 |
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Uh Imenja. Reread that |
Tinoire |
Dec-19-04 10:27 PM |
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misunderstanding |
imenja |
Dec-19-04 10:41 PM |
#107 |
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Not to worry. I understood as much |
Tinoire |
Dec-19-04 11:31 PM |
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Cubans pay attention |
blindpig |
Dec-20-04 08:09 AM |
#118 |
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Then, what about a majority of the world's democracies? |
Mika |
Dec-19-04 09:42 PM |
#101 |
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As I have said three times now |
imenja |
Dec-19-04 09:55 PM |
#104 |
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Australian's don't get to vote for our head of state at all |
Djinn |
Dec-20-04 08:55 PM |
#135 |
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So GLAD to see your post! |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-20-04 09:11 PM |
#136 |
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Thanks |
Djinn |
Dec-20-04 09:40 PM |
#139 |
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You're right, you can't take the word of propagandists! |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-20-04 10:30 PM |
#140 |
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Mika, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about |
RagingInMiami |
Dec-21-04 02:17 AM |
#162 |
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Um.. I do know what I'm talking about. |
Mika |
Dec-21-04 08:24 AM |
#173 |
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Nice rant, but don't go overboard. |
oblivious |
Dec-19-04 08:52 PM |
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You're right, let's not forget Chavez and Aristide. n/t |
Tinoire |
Dec-19-04 08:57 PM |
#94 |
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Lula's pretty cool... |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-20-04 07:31 AM |
#117 |
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Don't forget about the Cuban Sex Trade! |
Tinoire |
Dec-19-04 10:43 PM |
#108 |
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Not a big fan of Castro here |
Spiffarino |
Dec-19-04 11:53 PM |
#110 |
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Well it is. Just like all of Bush's other stories |
Tinoire |
Dec-19-04 11:58 PM |
#111 |
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Others tried |
malaise |
Dec-20-04 03:43 AM |
#115 |
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Well, a second reason to jail Rush Limbaugh |
Downtown Hound |
Dec-20-04 01:34 PM |
#123 |
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I separate Castro from the Cuban people ...... |
FreeStateDemocrat |
Dec-20-04 07:09 AM |
#116 |
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Anyone else notice how the OP just lobbed a firebomb |
Ms. Clio |
Dec-20-04 12:20 PM |
#119 |
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It's an empty exercise, isn't it, to deliberately throw in a subject |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-20-04 02:23 PM |
#124 |
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Pointless and puzzling |
Ms. Clio |
Dec-20-04 03:06 PM |
#126 |
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You've got it! n/t |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-20-04 03:11 PM |
#128 |
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I've looked at a few of the OP's other threads |
Spiffarino |
Dec-20-04 06:21 PM |
#129 |
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There has been a lot of baloney handed around disguised as information |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-20-04 06:47 PM |
#130 |
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I noticed that as well |
Ms. Clio |
Dec-20-04 08:12 PM |
#133 |
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If the right-wing ever gains control over Cuba, the "exiles" in Miami |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-20-04 08:34 PM |
#134 |
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Yes, they are a coddled lot, unbelievably spoiled and arrogant |
Ms. Clio |
Dec-20-04 10:34 PM |
#142 |
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Easy to remember your new name. Good one. |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-21-04 12:13 AM |
#145 |
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I would love to go there myself |
Ms. Clio |
Dec-21-04 10:18 PM |
#185 |
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I can't wait |
RagingInMiami |
Dec-21-04 02:21 AM |
#163 |
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Castro is a mixed bag |
Downtown Hound |
Dec-20-04 01:05 PM |
#120 |
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Why are you working so hard to "reform" Cuba instead of countries with |
w4rma |
Dec-20-04 01:13 PM |
#121 |
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Castro-hatred is America's problem. |
Minstrel Boy |
Dec-20-04 02:31 PM |
#125 |
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Did you know Miami was cited for violation of human rights?"Exile" problem |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-20-04 03:10 PM |
#127 |
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bush-loving is a much more pressing problem |
noiretblu |
Dec-20-04 10:34 PM |
#141 |
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Castro is a bad man, a tyrant and a dictator |
bluestateguy |
Dec-20-04 10:45 PM |
#143 |
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He's a lot better than Saddam |
Spiffarino |
Dec-21-04 12:59 AM |
#147 |
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also a lot better the Suharto |
rman |
Dec-21-04 03:40 AM |
#164 |
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which leader is a saint? none |
noiretblu |
Dec-21-04 03:57 PM |
#184 |
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I agree 100% with everything you just said! |
Padraig18 |
Dec-21-04 07:52 AM |
#167 |
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I can't help it...that beard,the cigar |
Forkboy |
Dec-21-04 01:06 AM |
#148 |
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take pieces that work from ANYBODY |
yurbud |
Dec-21-04 02:12 AM |
#159 |
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Whats That? A POPULAR Dictatorship? Shurely Shome Mishtake. |
Kurashima |
Dec-21-04 01:58 PM |
#181 |
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Excellent point--it's frightening how blurred those lines really are! |
Ms. Clio |
Dec-21-04 10:29 PM |
#186 |
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I have never been to Cuba, |
daydreamer |
Dec-21-04 02:48 PM |
#183 |
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A group from my church is going to do reconstruction work in |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-21-04 10:50 PM |
#187 |
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