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Sat Sep-06-03 11:33 AM
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| 46. Has anyone read Franken's most recent book - chapter (play) |
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about Ws tax plans? Waitress and Tax Lawyer?
The Tax Lawyer very clearly shows the Waitress that her tax cut is meager (under $400), but the cuts in services cost her a great deal more. In the end the waitress is much further in the hole due to the tax cut.
Nonsequitor: Regarding using the $ saved for healthcare (universal - not just care for those who are not insured) - imagine the difference in wages for many jobs - if the employers were not footing the escalating costs of health insurance? I believe that in the next ten year more business interests will be pushing for larger scale health/insurance reforms (even possibly universal coverage) for this very reason.
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| -Dean Needs to Change His Tax Repeal Plan ! |
stewert |
Sep-05-03 06:14 PM |
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Repealing the tax cuts peacemeal is a difficult matter |
goobergunch |
Sep-05-03 06:18 PM |
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It's like he said last night |
montanacowboy |
Sep-05-03 06:20 PM |
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$6 dollars here, $6 dollars there and then you're talking real money |
userdave2061 |
Sep-05-03 07:05 PM |
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this article by dean in the wall street journal .... |
virtualobserver |
Sep-05-03 06:22 PM |
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I don't feel like that's a firm enough statement |
AP |
Sep-05-03 06:49 PM |
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Nobody wants to discuss this? |
AP |
Sep-05-03 10:55 PM |
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I'll expand on the tax "reform" |
sangha |
Sep-05-03 11:22 PM |
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Right on. I'm so down with that. |
AP |
Sep-06-03 12:10 AM |
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this is completely wrong |
paulsbc |
Sep-06-03 12:41 AM |
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If you believe this, you haven't been paying attention to the debate |
AP |
Sep-06-03 12:48 AM |
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in my example and |
paulsbc |
Sep-06-03 12:51 AM |
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Most of the Dems plans |
sangha |
Sep-06-03 01:04 AM |
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bullshit |
paulsbc |
Sep-06-03 01:04 AM |
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Boy, you're awfully sensitive |
sangha |
Sep-06-03 01:11 AM |
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so sorry |
paulsbc |
Sep-06-03 01:24 AM |
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Not much better |
sangha |
Sep-06-03 01:54 AM |
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basic economics |
paulsbc |
Sep-06-03 02:17 AM |
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Not true |
sangha |
Sep-06-03 12:52 AM |
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i don't want a return to what was |
paulsbc |
Sep-06-03 01:02 AM |
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That's a very simplistic economic argument |
sangha |
Sep-06-03 01:10 AM |
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Bush is a moron |
paulsbc |
Sep-06-03 01:23 AM |
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But your plan is the same as his |
sangha |
Sep-06-03 01:57 AM |
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what? |
paulsbc |
Sep-06-03 02:14 AM |
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There is a limit to the degree that corporations can pass on costs |
wuushew |
Sep-06-03 02:24 AM |
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No. Some corporate taxes are passed on to American consumers and |
stickdog |
Sep-06-03 06:11 AM |
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The "corporations pass on taxes argument" (which McClintock repeated |
AP |
Sep-06-03 11:03 AM |
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did you read what i posted? |
paulsbc |
Sep-06-03 02:45 PM |
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Uh, corporate income needs to be taxed. If it weren't, |
AP |
Sep-06-03 03:09 PM |
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wrong |
paulsbc |
Sep-06-03 07:14 PM |
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You don't know what you're talking about. Listen: |
AP |
Sep-07-03 12:45 AM |
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Exactly! Every loophole and accountancy trick serves the greater good |
stickdog |
Sep-06-03 06:09 AM |
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Why should I pay more simply because I rent? |
dsc |
Sep-06-03 11:59 AM |
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Becaue it's good to encourage home ownership in America. |
AP |
Sep-06-03 12:24 PM |
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Yes I am being penalized |
dsc |
Sep-06-03 12:35 PM |
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Encouraging home ownership creates more wealth. Trust me. |
AP |
Sep-06-03 02:55 PM |
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even if you are right |
dsc |
Sep-06-03 09:54 PM |
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I've said elsewhere that I believe that the tax code should |
AP |
Sep-07-03 12:47 AM |
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Why? |
redeye |
Sep-06-03 02:52 PM |
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Don't be tied down if you don't want to be. But please be smart. |
AP |
Sep-06-03 02:56 PM |
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Oops. Just caught a couple mistakes |
AP |
Sep-06-03 12:16 AM |
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Hold your horses... |
plindner |
Sep-05-03 06:54 PM |
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My problem isn't a balanced budget and simpler taxes. |
AP |
Sep-05-03 06:57 PM |
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Hi plindner!! |
newyawker99 |
Sep-05-03 07:55 PM |
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"make taxes simple" |
w4rma |
Sep-05-03 11:12 PM |
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This is a right wing mantra, usually used to justify a flat tax |
AP |
Sep-05-03 11:22 PM |
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Do you have *anything* good to say about Edwards, AP? (n/t) |
w4rma |
Sep-06-03 02:05 AM |
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I cared about progressive taxation long before I knew who Edwards was |
AP |
Sep-06-03 11:33 AM |
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Flat or proportional? There's a very big difference |
redeye |
Sep-06-03 02:54 PM |
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Dean doesn't mention 'progressive' at all, and, sure, taxes |
AP |
Sep-06-03 03:11 PM |
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I wish Dean adopted Kerry's tax plan |
wuushew |
Sep-05-03 06:59 PM |
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Yes, of course a President Kerry |
kplongco |
Sep-05-03 11:11 PM |
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Sure he would |
redeye |
Sep-06-03 02:55 PM |
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I agree in principle but not on your percentages |
kplongco |
Sep-05-03 11:07 PM |
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Why isn't anyone trying to defend Dean??? |
AP |
Sep-06-03 12:26 AM |
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It's been defended. There really isn't much to say. |
w4rma |
Sep-06-03 02:11 AM |
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Why isn't Dean on board with progressive taxation? |
AP |
Sep-06-03 10:55 AM |
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He is and you know that |
dsc |
Sep-06-03 12:14 PM |
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Dean wants rates a Republican congress approved? This is his opportunity |
AP |
Sep-06-03 12:28 PM |
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You need to learn basic facts |
dsc |
Sep-06-03 12:31 PM |
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Tax code is made up of new legislation every year. Was '93 the |
AP |
Sep-06-03 01:18 PM |
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Define "progressive" |
redeye |
Sep-06-03 02:56 PM |
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Progressive taxation takes into account the fact that |
AP |
Sep-06-03 03:03 PM |
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Because it's bullshit. |
stickdog |
Sep-06-03 06:18 AM |
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Clinton's tax code was definitely not progressive enough, and he |
AP |
Sep-06-03 11:28 AM |
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You are baldly wrong as I stated above |
dsc |
Sep-06-03 12:38 PM |
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That was the budget battle for FY 94. The tax code is something else |
AP |
Sep-06-03 01:15 PM |
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Yes and no |
dsc |
Sep-06-03 09:50 PM |
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One progressive achievement in 93, negated by rapid rise in incomes for... |
AP |
Sep-07-03 01:04 AM |
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HE SHOULDN'T! Look at the polling data! |
poskonig |
Sep-06-03 10:58 AM |
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This isn't an _either_ health care _or_ Bush tax cuts question. |
AP |
Sep-06-03 11:31 AM |
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It is a "flush the federal government down the toilet" question. |
poskonig |
Sep-06-03 02:58 PM |
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Did you read the Krugman interview at liberaloasis.com? |
AP |
Sep-06-03 03:17 PM |
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Has anyone read Franken's most recent book - chapter (play) |
salin |
Sep-06-03 11:33 AM |
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I have said the same thing many times |
jafap |
Sep-06-03 09:15 PM |
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As a member of the working class, I didn't get a tax cut |
Larkspur |
Sep-06-03 09:31 PM |
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