KingLarryXVII
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Tue Dec-21-04 01:07 AM
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but it isnt worth anything when its forced upon everyone. Im a strong believer in voluntary charity. If someone is not willing to help the poor then thats their loss.
The basic fact of the matter is that it IS a retirement account, and always has been. Thats why it was set up and thats how it continues today. FDR didnt propose it as a way for the new generation to hold up the old, he made it so the old keep paying into the economy instead of falling off the economic spectrum and no longer helping. It was just a ploy to get us out of the great depression (Which it and the other programs did well) but now it is an old system that cant hold its own and cant even live up the basics of how it was originally planned.
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| -The Social Security Scam of bush: In a nutshell... |
rasputin1952 |
Dec-17-04 01:16 AM |
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kick! Good post. |
Liberty Belle |
Dec-17-04 01:24 AM |
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It boils down very simply to this.. |
tridim |
Dec-17-04 01:26 AM |
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A law MUST be passed to keep the SSA trust fund CLOSED to |
Sugarbleus |
Dec-17-04 11:34 PM |
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The savings and loan fiasco. |
pa28 |
Dec-17-04 01:51 AM |
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And all the people who UNexpectedly end up Disabled and need SSDI income |
zann725 |
Dec-18-04 12:32 AM |
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kick |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-17-04 02:15 AM |
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Did you know that FEDERAL EMPLOYEES don't pay social security? |
flordehinojos |
Dec-17-04 02:23 AM |
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How does the Federal Retirement Fund work and who... |
whistle |
Dec-17-04 11:23 AM |
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I am not sure ... I will try to find out and post whatever I find out a |
flordehinojos |
Dec-17-04 12:16 PM |
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PREVIOUS REPLY UPDATE: Federal Pensions are manage by the Federal Civil |
flordehinojos |
Dec-17-04 02:36 PM |
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Reagan and his evil minions laid the ground work for the new-age |
rasputin1952 |
Dec-17-04 09:32 PM |
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i so agree with you ... |
flordehinojos |
Dec-18-04 02:31 PM |
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Social Security are tax free funds correct... |
whistle |
Dec-17-04 03:45 AM |
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I was making my point in the simplest of terms. SS is complicated, |
rasputin1952 |
Dec-17-04 11:35 AM |
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You've nailed it Friend..... |
Dyedinthewoolliberal |
Dec-17-04 12:10 PM |
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This scam is the greatest 'gift' the bush maladministration has ever given |
rasputin1952 |
Dec-17-04 01:01 PM |
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The scam is that the bankers walk away with all your money, then it gets |
radwriter0555 |
Dec-17-04 11:56 AM |
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kick ! n/t |
jarab |
Dec-17-04 12:15 PM |
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Went about it all wrong.... |
KingLarryXVII |
Dec-17-04 10:09 PM |
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You miss a point though....SS is only based on the last 3 years you worked |
rasputin1952 |
Dec-18-04 09:40 PM |
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*sigh* you missed the point |
KingLarryXVII |
Dec-18-04 11:50 PM |
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Why not invest and go with SS? |
rasputin1952 |
Dec-19-04 10:23 AM |
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Your "numbers" ARE BULLSHIT!!!! |
amBushed |
Dec-19-04 10:49 AM |
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And thats where SS is failing |
KingLarryXVII |
Dec-19-04 12:57 PM |
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People don't pay into it their whole lives... |
bleedingheart |
Dec-21-04 09:33 PM |
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DEDUCT insurance premiums... |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-04 03:42 PM |
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SUPERB Rally piece!! |
Sugarbleus |
Dec-17-04 11:31 PM |
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The whole neo-con agenda about 'reform' is really destruction of SS |
rasputin1952 |
Dec-18-04 09:54 PM |
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SS is a good investment, just as you say...covering your butt when all |
rasputin1952 |
Dec-18-04 11:11 PM |
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Late-night kick for an excelent post... |
KrazyKat |
Dec-18-04 03:57 AM |
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He is trying to outdo his brothers S & L embezzlement scheme. |
TWiley |
Dec-18-04 04:18 AM |
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An uphill fight. |
Disturbed |
Dec-18-04 04:42 AM |
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I really feel that our first priority should be the 1st Ammendment. |
TWiley |
Dec-18-04 07:25 AM |
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I agree 100% about the spinelessness of the media... |
rasputin1952 |
Dec-18-04 11:50 PM |
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Sure it is an "up-hill fight"...but not ALL of the media is on bush's side |
rasputin1952 |
Dec-18-04 10:57 PM |
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After the Bush Stock Market Bust, |
shayes51 |
Dec-18-04 07:04 AM |
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*sigh* |
KingLarryXVII |
Dec-18-04 06:36 PM |
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I did read your post, and responded... |
rasputin1952 |
Dec-18-04 10:01 PM |
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My guess is that your friend doesn't grasp the "big picture" with SS. |
JanMichael |
Dec-18-04 10:59 PM |
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I posted that before you responded.... |
KingLarryXVII |
Dec-19-04 12:01 AM |
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Social Security also pays if you become disabled |
idiosyncratic |
Dec-19-04 12:12 AM |
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I am not trying to say you can't invest what you want... |
rasputin1952 |
Dec-19-04 10:17 AM |
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It's a moral responsibility to the elderly |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-04 03:44 PM |
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... |
KingLarryXVII |
Dec-21-04 01:07 AM |
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That is patently untrue, SS can be there for what it was designed for... |
rasputin1952 |
Dec-21-04 08:33 PM |
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national wealth redistribution and the role of government are the two |
pinto |
Dec-19-04 02:22 PM |
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the role of the government |
KingLarryXVII |
Dec-21-04 01:12 AM |
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Very poor argument there. If a 'group' can get your money, and the money |
rasputin1952 |
Dec-21-04 08:42 PM |
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taxation is, by definition, redistribution of money and a govt role. |
pinto |
Dec-21-04 09:24 PM |
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As I looked over these posts again, I am reminded of what Novak |
rasputin1952 |
Dec-19-04 09:15 PM |
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