PurityOfEssence
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Thu Dec-16-04 10:05 PM
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| 18. Horrible stop-and-start freeway driving gives the best mileage |
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I'm guessing you have one of the hatchbacks, which have more power and better mileage. Mine's an '03.
I think the problem is that battery technology just doesn't let one store as much energy as the system reclaims, so when in very slow traffic, one is pure electric for long periods and is not wasting as much energy.
You're right about the urban vs. freeway driving, although if you keep it at 63 on long stretches, you'll net 50+ on this model.
Ya gotta love the EPA estimates having a higher city estimate than highway estimate; it's just sort of an eye-opener that you're dealing with a different sort of beast.
What people REALLY don't get is the torque issue: acceleration is much better than anything of comparable horsepower because of the properties of electric motors, and as we city drivers know, it's not speed, but acceleration that matters most. Quite a peppy little thing, isn't it?
This is an idiotic thread; the thing proves itself by its record. Those who poo-pooh it tend to do so from a butch standpoint of thinking of it as a kiddie-car, when it's got plenty of oopmh. Even the weight of the battery issue is silly: it's largely offset by the weight of a larger engine in similarly horse powered vehicles even when the weight of the electric motor is taken into account.
Silly silly silly.
Fun to drive, isn't it?
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| -What's so great about a hybrid gas/battery car? |
HypnoToad |
Dec-16-04 08:02 PM |
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nothing |
IronLionZion |
Dec-16-04 08:03 PM |
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you expect people to hoist a sail out the sunroof? |
yorgatron |
Dec-16-04 08:14 PM |
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I expect people to start running cross country |
IronLionZion |
Dec-16-04 08:17 PM |
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Because the aerodynamics would go to crap |
tridim |
Dec-16-04 08:16 PM |
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The wind-device could be behind the radiator or |
FlaGranny |
Dec-19-04 08:36 AM |
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When you decelerate or brake, you're creating energy |
PurityOfEssence |
Dec-16-04 08:18 PM |
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"creating energy" |
mahatmakanejeeves |
Dec-16-04 08:47 PM |
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The actual statement was: |
Sinistrous |
Dec-16-04 09:04 PM |
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getting steamed |
mahatmakanejeeves |
Dec-16-04 09:08 PM |
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You're getting the energy from gravity |
DjTj |
Dec-16-04 09:13 PM |
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Trading Potential Energy for Kinetic Energy |
Poor Richard Lex |
Dec-16-04 09:40 PM |
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energy cannot be created, nor destroyed |
AngryAmish |
Dec-19-04 10:58 AM |
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Okay, "availing oneself of otherwise wasted energy" |
PurityOfEssence |
Dec-16-04 09:14 PM |
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I should have said something like "harnessing otherwise wasted energy". |
mahatmakanejeeves |
Dec-16-04 09:37 PM |
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however |
taught_me_patience |
Dec-17-04 01:03 PM |
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50.3 here! |
ChicagoBlue |
Dec-16-04 09:30 PM |
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Horrible stop-and-start freeway driving gives the best mileage |
PurityOfEssence |
Dec-16-04 10:05 PM |
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Hi ChicagoBlue ! |
laheina |
Dec-16-04 11:30 PM |
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Welcome to DU ChicagoBlue. I want a hybrid too! |
idiosyncratic |
Dec-17-04 12:34 PM |
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I'd love one, but I can't afford it and I own my current one. |
Ms_Mary |
Dec-19-04 10:47 AM |
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What tax deduction did you get for your hybrid? |
catzies |
Dec-17-04 01:43 PM |
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I'm hankering for either a hybrid Escape or Highlander... |
Debbi801 |
Dec-17-04 02:19 PM |
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Sold my SUV and got a Prius back in '02 |
kostya |
Dec-17-04 03:59 PM |
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Hi ChicagoBlue!! |
newyawker99 |
Dec-19-04 08:14 AM |
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Plus, I know with our 2004 Prius... |
Debbi801 |
Dec-17-04 02:12 PM |
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"creating energy" |
Fescue4u |
Dec-17-04 02:39 PM |
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Only A GOP Accountant Could Get The Energy Balance In The Black |
loindelrio |
Dec-16-04 08:20 PM |
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I don't think I can top that. |
mahatmakanejeeves |
Dec-16-04 08:48 PM |
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Who said it was in the black? |
PurityOfEssence |
Dec-16-04 09:34 PM |
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What In The Hell Are You Talking About? |
loindelrio |
Dec-16-04 11:13 PM |
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Chill out yourself |
PurityOfEssence |
Dec-17-04 05:47 PM |
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Whatever Elvis |
loindelrio |
Dec-17-04 07:29 PM |
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Well, 52 MPG in summer is nice, and 45 in winter's not too bad either |
hatrack |
Dec-16-04 09:42 PM |
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Wouldn't there be no net gain of fuel efficiency? |
NickB79 |
Dec-17-04 02:46 AM |
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With all due respect there is no such thing as a free ride |
Ironpost |
Dec-17-04 03:02 AM |
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lol! good one! |
InvisibleBallots |
Dec-17-04 03:18 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-17-04 03:48 AM |
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I'm surprised that we're not driving solar powered flying cars. |
B Calm |
Dec-17-04 07:25 AM |
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I'm still waiting for the magical hydrogen cars that Bush promised us. |
MsAnthropy |
Dec-17-04 12:37 PM |
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Energy loss due to drag would exceed the energy gained from the turbine |
Xithras |
Dec-17-04 12:51 PM |
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Interesting study by TxDOT |
TX-RAT |
Dec-17-04 01:16 PM |
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Thank you for mentioning that study |
cally |
Dec-17-04 05:03 PM |
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Animal travel is not "pollution free" |
IanDB1 |
Dec-17-04 02:20 PM |
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This whole thread is silly |
Royal Observer |
Dec-17-04 01:22 PM |
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It shouldn't be about recouping the extra investment. |
idiosyncratic |
Dec-17-04 02:07 PM |
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I still say |
Royal Observer |
Dec-17-04 03:24 PM |
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Didn't you ever see "Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome" |
AngryAmish |
Dec-19-04 11:02 AM |
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You'd recoup that extra cost at about 85000 miles |
fishwax |
Dec-19-04 10:44 AM |
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I take it physics isn't your strong suit. |
Wonk |
Dec-17-04 01:26 PM |
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Energy cannot be created (or destroyed)... |
Zenaholic |
Dec-17-04 01:36 PM |
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I agree about the mileage. I have a VW Golf TDI that gets 55mpg |
Ron_Green |
Dec-17-04 02:39 PM |
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But how do you deal with the price of diesel? |
kostya |
Dec-17-04 04:01 PM |
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Diesel fuel here is about the same price as premium gasoline, and as long |
Ron_Green |
Dec-17-04 04:30 PM |
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You have an OR avatar. Last time I looked out the car window |
kostya |
Dec-17-04 04:54 PM |
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It's about the same as premium here on the coast. Maybe 2 cents more. |
Ron_Green |
Dec-17-04 04:59 PM |
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Hoo boy. |
prof_science |
Dec-17-04 02:17 PM |
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The laws of Thermodynamics |
IanDB1 |
Dec-17-04 02:18 PM |
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Thermodynamics is just a theory. |
mahatmakanejeeves |
Dec-17-04 03:59 PM |
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Hey! That's a great idea! |
PurityOfEssence |
Dec-17-04 05:53 PM |
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I don't want to get into a scientific argument... |
BeeBee |
Dec-17-04 02:20 PM |
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48 Miles Per Gallon |
spanone |
Dec-17-04 03:12 PM |
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You are joking, right? |
lectrobyte |
Dec-17-04 04:27 PM |
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It's worse than that, I think. The way I read the original post what he |
Wonk |
Dec-17-04 04:37 PM |
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Yes, it's stupid beyond belief. |
DrWeird |
Dec-17-04 04:58 PM |
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I third the vote for complete idiocy |
Forkboy |
Dec-17-04 05:07 PM |
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Oh yeah, right, he used to use "thermodynamic" as his user name here. |
Wonk |
Dec-17-04 07:42 PM |
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Let's power one with bullshit! Your "idea" could fuel a large fleet. |
retread |
Dec-17-04 06:06 PM |
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kick, for comedic value |
Wonk |
Dec-18-04 06:10 PM |
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Nikola Tesla worked on an electric car......... |
HuskiesHowls |
Dec-19-04 10:20 AM |
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