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Response to Reply #130 |
| 131. Democratic Socialism |
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This is a concept that may be tried one day if the planet survives that long.
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| -Do you believe Communism was so evil anymore.? |
Swede |
Dec-10-04 07:56 PM |
#0 |
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Is economic redistribution really piss you off? |
Swede |
Dec-10-04 07:57 PM |
#1 |
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Capatilism vs communism. |
Swede |
Dec-10-04 09:21 PM |
#33 |
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Communism has never been practiced, rather like |
InformedSource |
Dec-11-04 07:53 PM |
#119 |
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Follow up comment |
InformedSource |
Dec-11-04 07:55 PM |
#120 |
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Can we 'blame'... |
Royal Observer |
Dec-12-04 01:12 PM |
#141 |
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It is NOT evil. 90 million people died in the pursuit of it...but hey.. |
leftyandproud |
Dec-10-04 11:34 PM |
#50 |
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I'm sure Wolfowitz has said the same thing. |
American Tragedy |
Dec-11-04 04:29 AM |
#63 |
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And how many died in the pursuit of Christianity? |
bhikkhu |
Dec-12-04 01:09 AM |
#126 |
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No. |
DrWeird |
Dec-10-04 07:58 PM |
#2 |
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Don't you think what 's going on in America is not working? |
Swede |
Dec-10-04 07:59 PM |
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Obviously it's not. |
DrWeird |
Dec-10-04 08:03 PM |
#12 |
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There's an easy solution to that |
AliciaKeyedUp |
Dec-11-04 08:44 AM |
#69 |
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Hey!! |
Krocksice |
Dec-11-04 08:01 PM |
#121 |
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If you'd rather be someplace |
AliciaKeyedUp |
Dec-13-04 06:50 AM |
#153 |
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Ahhh. The RW canard. |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Dec-11-04 11:40 PM |
#123 |
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Not RW, LW |
AliciaKeyedUp |
Dec-13-04 06:51 AM |
#154 |
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I suppose you'd say the same thing to the wife of an abusive husband. |
DrWeird |
Dec-13-04 11:44 AM |
#160 |
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Yes, I stood in line 5 hrs to post this at Peoples Internet Access Stn 579 |
EDT |
Dec-11-04 02:43 PM |
#94 |
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That made me picture "Darth Commie", a Sith knight replete with symbology. |
Zhade |
Dec-11-04 02:46 PM |
#95 |
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Never thought it was. It's the most logical way to organize a society. |
neweurope |
Dec-10-04 07:58 PM |
#3 |
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Yes. |
LoZoccolo |
Dec-10-04 07:58 PM |
#4 |
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evil...no, just really stupid and like any other totalitarian system |
Cheswick2.0 |
Dec-10-04 07:59 PM |
#6 |
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The market is not working either. |
Swede |
Dec-10-04 08:03 PM |
#13 |
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Nothing that is happening, even now |
Cheswick2.0 |
Dec-10-04 08:24 PM |
#25 |
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Yes. Absolutely. |
Pax Hayden |
Dec-10-04 08:00 PM |
#7 |
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Can you call them evil? |
Swede |
Dec-10-04 08:01 PM |
#9 |
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Anarchists? |
DrWeird |
Dec-10-04 08:04 PM |
#15 |
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What "Free Market"? |
reprobate |
Dec-11-04 12:11 PM |
#72 |
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Well I never thought it was evil...I find that all concepts have a down |
movonne |
Dec-10-04 08:01 PM |
#8 |
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No |
LSparkle |
Dec-10-04 08:01 PM |
#10 |
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I don't think that it was ever evil... |
LostInAnomie |
Dec-10-04 08:02 PM |
#11 |
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On the other hand, |
forgethell |
Dec-10-04 11:29 PM |
#47 |
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Well if you get down to it there has never truly been a communist state. |
LostInAnomie |
Dec-10-04 11:48 PM |
#53 |
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That's because |
forgethell |
Dec-10-04 11:55 PM |
#55 |
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We have not seen REAL communism... |
LostInAnomie |
Dec-11-04 12:25 AM |
#57 |
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Marxism was supposed |
forgethell |
Dec-11-04 08:36 AM |
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What do you not understand? TRUE Marxism has NEVER been tried. |
LostInAnomie |
Dec-11-04 05:53 PM |
#115 |
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LostInAnomie, That's my understanding, too. We should be talking about |
rhite5 |
Dec-11-04 09:40 PM |
#122 |
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What don't you understand? |
forgethell |
Dec-13-04 10:28 AM |
#157 |
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So, when it's next tried....how many billions will die? |
DoNotRefill |
Dec-13-04 05:21 PM |
#164 |
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There's another reason the USSR failed. |
reprobate |
Dec-11-04 12:22 PM |
#74 |
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And how does that little fact |
forgethell |
Dec-11-04 05:34 PM |
#112 |
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Self deleted duplicate post. |
reprobate |
Dec-11-04 12:22 PM |
#75 |
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"the pathetic economic state of Cuba" - you should look into that more. |
Zhade |
Dec-11-04 02:52 PM |
#97 |
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I have looked into |
forgethell |
Dec-11-04 05:36 PM |
#113 |
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And Cuba most impressively is equal to the US in life expectancy |
bhikkhu |
Dec-12-04 01:15 AM |
#127 |
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"Pathetic economic state of Cuba" as opposed to |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-11-04 03:46 PM |
#104 |
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Real communism is a ruse to protect followers of Marx.... |
rinsd |
Dec-13-04 05:24 PM |
#166 |
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Che and Castro HARDLY belong with the rest you've listed. |
Zhade |
Dec-11-04 02:49 PM |
#96 |
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Don't they? |
forgethell |
Dec-11-04 05:42 PM |
#114 |
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So, when Castro threw out Batista, that was evil? |
Zhade |
Dec-12-04 01:00 AM |
#124 |
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It's what he did afterwards. Jeez!! n/t |
forgethell |
Dec-12-04 10:17 AM |
#137 |
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Communism was/is as evil as Fascism--it is as repressive. The difference |
flordehinojos |
Dec-10-04 08:04 PM |
#14 |
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Does this sound familiar to you? |
Swede |
Dec-10-04 08:06 PM |
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I've heard it many times |
flordehinojos |
Dec-10-04 08:19 PM |
#22 |
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Since we actually never saw |
lenidog |
Dec-10-04 08:07 PM |
#17 |
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I think we did see |
forgethell |
Dec-10-04 11:31 PM |
#48 |
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The problem with Communisim is the same problem with Capitalisim |
hollowdweller |
Dec-10-04 08:07 PM |
#18 |
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Power corrupts,absolute power corrputs absolutlely........ |
Swede |
Dec-10-04 08:10 PM |
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Yes it is evil. |
Okieprogie |
Dec-10-04 08:08 PM |
#19 |
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What I am asking is Communism. |
Swede |
Dec-10-04 08:17 PM |
#21 |
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It's the people |
forgethell |
Dec-10-04 11:32 PM |
#49 |
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read the black book of communism...real number closer to 100 million |
leftyandproud |
Dec-10-04 11:36 PM |
#52 |
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Wow, so Castro is in the same league as Stalin and Mao? |
Zhade |
Dec-11-04 02:56 PM |
#98 |
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Yes |
Okieprogie |
Dec-11-04 05:22 PM |
#110 |
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All I can say is: educate yourself. You've swallowed the propaganda. |
Zhade |
Dec-12-04 01:01 AM |
#125 |
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So it's not true? |
Okieprogie |
Dec-12-04 10:04 AM |
#135 |
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"Armas? Por Que?" |
DoNotRefill |
Dec-13-04 05:28 PM |
#169 |
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No, the ideals of communism are noble. It hasn't been implemented |
bobweaver |
Dec-10-04 08:20 PM |
#23 |
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Human greed. I am a slave to it. |
Swede |
Dec-10-04 08:22 PM |
#24 |
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Communism advocates violence against capitalists, doesn't it? |
ckramer |
Dec-10-04 08:52 PM |
#28 |
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"In capitalism, wealth and properties are taken away by law." |
Zhade |
Dec-11-04 02:59 PM |
#99 |
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So how many more millions must die.... |
DoNotRefill |
Dec-13-04 05:29 PM |
#170 |
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It was fine in theory, but unfortunately, people used it as an excuse to |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-10-04 08:44 PM |
#26 |
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very well said |
ckramer |
Dec-10-04 09:02 PM |
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You have to admit one thing LL......... |
Old and In the Way |
Dec-10-04 09:16 PM |
#32 |
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That's an interesting observation |
ckramer |
Dec-10-04 09:27 PM |
#34 |
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Ultimately, I'm not sure you could stop it. |
Old and In the Way |
Dec-10-04 09:43 PM |
#38 |
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"Neither China nor the USSR actually implemented Communism" |
Starlight |
Dec-10-04 09:31 PM |
#37 |
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there is possibility of evil in everything. |
TrustingDog |
Dec-10-04 08:48 PM |
#27 |
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It, like true democracy, doesn't exist outside of a group of 20 people |
LittleClarkie |
Dec-10-04 08:57 PM |
#29 |
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What doesn't break down eventually? |
AG78 |
Dec-10-04 09:13 PM |
#31 |
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yes, a scourge on mankind. |
kodi |
Dec-10-04 09:28 PM |
#35 |
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So Castro "heaped skulls" too, eh? |
Zhade |
Dec-11-04 03:06 PM |
#101 |
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only about 70K out of 11M, so castro was only a mid-mass murderer |
kodi |
Dec-12-04 11:27 AM |
#139 |
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Yep. Read "The Gulag Archipelago" |
tom_paine |
Dec-10-04 09:30 PM |
#36 |
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No, not evil. There's no such thing as real evil in the world. |
Darth_Ole |
Dec-10-04 09:52 PM |
#43 |
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I'm curious. |
forgethell |
Dec-11-04 08:39 AM |
#68 |
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There are a number of small communes in the US |
Poor Richard Lex |
Dec-12-04 09:02 AM |
#133 |
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Intentional Communities are awesome |
RumpusCat |
Dec-12-04 12:47 PM |
#140 |
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It only works on small scales. |
Silverhair |
Dec-13-04 09:00 AM |
#156 |
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"Communism devolves swiftly into Tyranny. Seemingly always." |
kodi |
Dec-10-04 09:54 PM |
#45 |
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well |
agitprop |
Dec-10-04 09:46 PM |
#39 |
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Well |
CHIMO |
Dec-10-04 09:48 PM |
#40 |
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Communism is not evil. It's unrealistic and impossible, but not |
lizzy |
Dec-10-04 09:49 PM |
#41 |
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True communism is an illusion |
Hanover_Fist |
Dec-10-04 09:52 PM |
#42 |
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Exactly. There have never been a communist country. |
lizzy |
Dec-10-04 09:54 PM |
#44 |
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As long as you define success as overpowering other people, |
shance |
Dec-12-04 05:29 PM |
#148 |
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Theory yes. |
illbill |
Dec-10-04 09:56 PM |
#46 |
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Absolutely |
ChemEng |
Dec-10-04 11:35 PM |
#51 |
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I'm sure this has already been mentioned |
Bouncy Ball |
Dec-10-04 11:53 PM |
#54 |
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Yes |
eleny |
Dec-10-04 11:59 PM |
#56 |
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NO it is not near as evil as it was portrayed |
donheld |
Dec-11-04 02:48 AM |
#58 |
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Dictatorships are evil |
sandnsea |
Dec-11-04 03:09 AM |
#59 |
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I agree |
morgan2 |
Dec-11-04 04:01 AM |
#60 |
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hey, i think this may be interesting for the topic |
Charlls |
Dec-11-04 04:09 AM |
#61 |
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It is a profoundly flawed and ill-conceived economic system |
American Tragedy |
Dec-11-04 04:21 AM |
#62 |
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the problem is when people speakes loosely, and people nods thoughtlessly |
Charlls |
Dec-11-04 05:12 AM |
#64 |
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I concur |
quaker bill |
Dec-11-04 12:33 PM |
#80 |
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Wow. Thanks guys. |
Swede |
Dec-11-04 05:25 AM |
#65 |
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Any totalitarian system is evil, so yes, I still do. |
Padraig18 |
Dec-11-04 08:38 AM |
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Dec-11-04 09:35 AM |
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yeah they really are |
sandnsea |
Dec-11-04 12:07 PM |
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Dec-11-04 12:35 PM |
#81 |
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Just pointing out |
sandnsea |
Dec-11-04 12:41 PM |
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Dec-11-04 12:54 PM |
#85 |
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Then back to point A |
sandnsea |
Dec-11-04 02:33 PM |
#93 |
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You remember the *propaganda*, truth is more nuanced |
podnoi |
Dec-11-04 03:43 PM |
#103 |
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Dictatorship is evil |
Radical Activist |
Dec-11-04 12:20 PM |
#73 |
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The PR side of Communism isn't. But the practice of Communism is. |
w4rma |
Dec-11-04 12:24 PM |
#76 |
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Centralized power is not Communist, it is Socialist. |
quaker bill |
Dec-11-04 12:29 PM |
#78 |
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Has there ever been a communist government |
Radical Activist |
Dec-11-04 01:01 PM |
#86 |
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Centralized power is a hallmark of revolutions in general |
quaker bill |
Dec-11-04 01:41 PM |
#89 |
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That makes no sense. |
w4rma |
Dec-11-04 01:37 PM |
#88 |
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You forgot one word |
quaker bill |
Dec-11-04 01:50 PM |
#90 |
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Let's look instead at a nation that calls themself Communist: China. |
w4rma |
Dec-11-04 02:06 PM |
#91 |
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The Nazis had a strong socialist element to their platform.... |
DoNotRefill |
Dec-13-04 05:40 PM |
#171 |
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The form of state socialism used by the Soviets was repressive |
quaker bill |
Dec-11-04 12:25 PM |
#77 |
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under Capitalism, man exploits man |
doubleplusgood |
Dec-11-04 12:31 PM |
#79 |
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Tell ya what |
AliciaKeyedUp |
Dec-11-04 12:44 PM |
#83 |
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The freedom to type |
AG78 |
Dec-11-04 01:20 PM |
#87 |
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if you actually read what I posted |
doubleplusgood |
Dec-11-04 06:12 PM |
#116 |
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"under Capitalism, man exploits man" |
Retired AF Dem |
Dec-12-04 01:50 PM |
#146 |
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OK, obviously some are not getting the joke here |
doubleplusgood |
Dec-12-04 06:13 PM |
#150 |
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No shit |
Retired AF Dem |
Dec-13-04 05:08 PM |
#163 |
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LOL....best synopsis I've seen yet (nt) |
rinsd |
Dec-13-04 05:27 PM |
#168 |
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Heh...you read Mad Magazine as a child too, I see... |
DoNotRefill |
Dec-13-04 05:41 PM |
#172 |
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It depends on what you mean by Communism. |
durutti |
Dec-11-04 12:46 PM |
#84 |
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Communism was BAD, and still is. |
Placebo |
Dec-11-04 02:22 PM |
#92 |
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It's not black and white. Some things they had in USSR |
podnoi |
Dec-11-04 03:34 PM |
#102 |
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Totalitarian aspects of both communism and capitalism/corporatism/fascism |
UdoKier |
Dec-11-04 03:05 PM |
#100 |
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Not evil... In fact, in retrospect totally valid..... |
Chicago Democrat |
Dec-11-04 04:21 PM |
#105 |
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Yes. |
Wild Rabbit |
Dec-11-04 04:25 PM |
#106 |
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Not At All |
manic expression |
Dec-11-04 04:26 PM |
#107 |
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I have never NOT believed that Communism is/was evil. n/t |
Cuban_Liberal |
Dec-11-04 04:30 PM |
#108 |
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Not only evil, but obsolete too. |
Wild Rabbit |
Dec-11-04 04:49 PM |
#109 |
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Interesting idea, and welcome to DU. |
Silverhair |
Dec-11-04 07:46 PM |
#118 |
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Maybe human's future lies in the combination of communism and |
ckramer |
Dec-11-04 05:29 PM |
#111 |
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The idea isn't evil - the regimes have been |
HEyHEY |
Dec-11-04 06:30 PM |
#117 |
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Not evil. Just discreditied and unworkable |
bluestateguy |
Dec-12-04 02:06 AM |
#128 |
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Communism has the same problem as Christianity. |
Taxloss |
Dec-12-04 02:21 AM |
#129 |
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Yes nt |
Piperay |
Dec-12-04 03:32 AM |
#130 |
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Democratic Socialism |
Disturbed |
Dec-12-04 04:47 AM |
#131 |
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It never was. In ANY society, it's the LEADERSHIP that makes or breaks it |
HypnoToad |
Dec-12-04 07:56 AM |
#132 |
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hey, really, i think this may be interesting for the topic |
Charlls |
Dec-12-04 09:16 AM |
#134 |
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I have never really believed that |
catbert836 |
Dec-12-04 10:07 AM |
#136 |
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No more than capitalism. Both, taken to extreme are a disaster and |
leesa |
Dec-12-04 10:39 AM |
#138 |
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The economic system isn't evil really |
JohnKleeb |
Dec-12-04 01:16 PM |
#142 |
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Remember John... the USSR was truly NOT communist |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-12-04 01:26 PM |
#143 |
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What do you think, Swede? |
VioletLake |
Dec-12-04 01:27 PM |
#144 |
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Yes it was evil |
Retired AF Dem |
Dec-12-04 01:36 PM |
#145 |
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However, communism didn't kill these people. |
shance |
Dec-12-04 05:35 PM |
#149 |
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That's like saying... |
DoNotRefill |
Dec-13-04 05:25 PM |
#167 |
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Not evil per say. |
SarahBelle |
Dec-12-04 02:05 PM |
#147 |
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I don't think the ideology is evil, necessarily... |
KSAtheist |
Dec-13-04 01:18 AM |
#151 |
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"Marx lied to us about Communism," |
eridani |
Dec-13-04 01:26 AM |
#152 |
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Deleted message |
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Dec-13-04 07:41 AM |
#155 |
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I haven't read all the answers, but having witnessed the cold war |
Cleita |
Dec-13-04 11:11 AM |
#158 |
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yes. commies = bad |
l33tGuy |
Dec-13-04 11:42 AM |
#159 |
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never thought communism was evil...did and do think that because of |
RUDUing2 |
Dec-13-04 11:49 AM |
#161 |
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I Don't Believe Ideas Have Inherent Evil or Good |
ProfessorGAC |
Dec-13-04 11:53 AM |
#162 |
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Under Capitalism, man exploits man. |
DoNotRefill |
Dec-13-04 05:23 PM |
#165 |
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