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jeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:22 PM
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31. I don't think my cousin will ever be converted
That wasn't the point of my post. The point was something that I noticed in some of my friends a week ago and the juxtaposition with my cousin who is 10 to 15 years older.

I agree with the post above that the baby boomers were more liberal -as were their parents because of the Depression, New Deal, WW2.

But something changed in the late 60s and 70s. Fear took over. That fear is going away. I was born in the early 70s and many of my generation and those born after are much more optimistic about the future. More libertarian than socialist. But optimistic nonetheless. They are VERY LIBERAL on social issues. Yet my cousin, who is from the same social class, grew up with both parents, went to the same public schools, etc, etc, etc. is more conservative than me and my friends that work and do our thing just like everyone else.

The point is that the country is changing. The fear perpetrated and taken for granted by Nixon, Reagan and Bush is no longer there. Or going away.

P.S. My cousin also lost his job in December and has had a lot of trouble finding a new one.

I wonder if he sees the connection? I doubt it. But I'm not going to try to convince him. He is incouragable (sp??). This is the fatal flaw of the DLC strategy. Their whole strategy is to convince people like my cousin who once was a democrat but became a republican to once again vote democrat. The problem is that HE WON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT. What we should be doing is encouraging young people to support us. Those that are libertarian and have spent a lifetime being told that Democrats are assholes. They agree with us.

Build a new Democratic coalition. Do you see?

P.S.S. There were always young republicans, even in the 1960s. People act as if all young people were liberal back then. Not true. Many of the neocons began their careers and political contacts back during their college days in the 1960s. They just weren't at the rallies.
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  -My idiot freeper cousin got me thinking today jeter  Sep-05-03 10:14 AM   #0 
  - My son, who is in his early 40s,  FlaGranny   Sep-05-03 10:20 AM   #1 
  - I'm A Boomer  RobinA   Sep-05-03 10:47 AM   #6 
     - when they (or a friend) get drafted  NewYorkerfromMass   Sep-05-03 10:48 AM   #7 
     - My right wing religious, camo-wearing, gun-totin'  morningglory   Sep-05-03 10:59 AM   #8 
     - Tell him Bush was AWOL after rich kid sliming his way into the Guard  NewYorkerfromMass   Sep-05-03 11:05 AM   #10 
     - Don't try to turn him -- just feed him tidbits of information  IrateCitizen   Sep-05-03 11:20 AM   #13 
     - Let him know exactly who is fighting against the GOP's overtime pay attack  w4rma   Sep-05-03 12:09 PM   #19 
     - Other ways the Bushies are ruining the economy  dkamin   Sep-05-03 01:08 PM   #25 
     - No, many of them have just been duped  gratuitous   Sep-05-03 11:02 AM   #9 
        - good point, or as David Byrne said: "well, how did I get here?"  NewYorkerfromMass   Sep-05-03 11:08 AM   #11 
        - the double trick  PATRICK   Sep-05-03 11:43 AM   #15 
     - Robin A - Isn't it possible that  Iris   Sep-05-03 11:30 AM   #14 
     - It's not so much liberal vs conservative , as it is  SoCalDem   Sep-05-03 12:11 PM   #20 
        - Liberal and conservative are changing meanings  dkamin   Sep-05-03 01:03 PM   #23 
           - wrong dkamin  jeter   Sep-05-03 03:09 PM   #30 
  - We don't have to win hearts and minds  gratuitous   Sep-05-03 10:25 AM   #2 
  - if the implication that tolerant implies liberal you might be right, BUT.  kodi   Sep-05-03 10:35 AM   #3 
  - He's from MA and Republican?  RationalRose   Sep-05-03 10:38 AM   #4 
  - Tell him Reagan dealt with terrorists in the 80's  NewYorkerfromMass   Sep-05-03 10:40 AM   #5 
  - You know something...  imax2268   Sep-05-03 11:12 AM   #12 
  - Let's see how he made that mistake  NewYorkerfromMass   Sep-05-03 01:28 PM   #28 
  - Repuke support of the Fraudministration is splintering.  AntiCoup2k   Sep-05-03 11:59 AM   #16 
  - If you want to get young people to vote Democrat  Neo Progressive   Sep-05-03 12:01 PM   #17 
  - Thank you, young person.  morningglory   Sep-05-03 12:52 PM   #21 
  - I'd add one more thing to your list, Neo Progressive  IrateCitizen   Sep-05-03 12:57 PM   #22 
  - Agreed  dkamin   Sep-05-03 01:22 PM   #26 
  - My parents  Nlighten1   Sep-05-03 12:04 PM   #18 
  - Here's what I think about  TheYellowDog   Sep-05-03 01:07 PM   #24 
  - true conservatives.....  grasswire   Sep-05-03 01:26 PM   #27 
  - The tact I find most useful for these folks....  TLM   Sep-05-03 01:29 PM   #29 
  - I don't think my cousin will ever be converted  jeter   Sep-05-03 03:22 PM   #31 
  - Just the kind of family Clark can pick up  Clark Can WIN   Sep-05-03 05:13 PM   #32 
     - I think Clark would be stronger  jeter   Sep-06-03 07:45 AM   #33 
 

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