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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:24 AM
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3. Exactly. US troop presence is the heart of the problem.
It's not like the violence will suddenly dry up should we leave -- but it's not like things are becoming any LESS violent while we're there.

"The problems of the world will not be solved by the same thinking that created them in the first place." -- Albert Einstein

An Iraq in charge of its own destiny is the only silver lining in this dark cloud. Sadly, such an Iraq will likely NOT be free from bloodshed and violence. However, if we are truly interested in allowing Iraq to pursue its own destiny, as opposed to propping up another petty despot to replace Saddam (Allawi seems to be progressing well on this front), then it's the only way we can go.
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  -Iraq: What do we do now? Husb2Sparkly  Dec-06-04 11:09 AM   #0 
  - I would announce a withdrawal date, on the condition that....  kentuck   Dec-06-04 11:14 AM   #1 
  - At 00:01, in the first minute of being in charge  leftofthedial   Dec-06-04 11:17 AM   #2 
  - Exactly. US troop presence is the heart of the problem.  IrateCitizen   Dec-06-04 11:24 AM   #3 
  - I hate to sound cruel  leftofthedial   Dec-06-04 11:41 AM   #6 
     - You're sounding realistic.  IrateCitizen   Dec-06-04 11:46 AM   #10 
        - we are part of the problem  leftofthedial   Dec-06-04 11:48 AM   #11 
  - But do we not have some moral obligation to the people who's lives ......  Husb2Sparkly   Dec-06-04 11:40 AM   #5 
     - Perhaps a better question -- how do we stay?  IrateCitizen   Dec-06-04 11:44 AM   #7 
     - The killing will happen anyway  leftofthedial   Dec-06-04 11:45 AM   #9 
        - Wow, I **like** that idea .......  Husb2Sparkly   Dec-06-04 11:54 AM   #17 
  - A fully declared timetable  whosinpower   Dec-06-04 11:39 AM   #4 
  - I agree completely that we are the reason Iraq is as it is today.  Husb2Sparkly   Dec-06-04 11:48 AM   #12 
  - Well. perhaps it IS only temporary  whosinpower   Dec-06-04 12:00 PM   #18 
  - My Iraq plan  IanDB1   Dec-06-04 11:50 AM   #14 
  - support our troops - outsource the war - to iraqis  IllegalCombatant   Dec-06-04 11:45 AM   #8 
  - EXACTAMUNDO!  IrateCitizen   Dec-06-04 11:48 AM   #13 
     - thanks ic  IllegalCombatant   Dec-06-04 12:05 PM   #20 
  - My plan  Bragi   Dec-06-04 11:50 AM   #15 
  - Get the hell out.  NCevilDUer   Dec-06-04 11:51 AM   #16 
  - First of all change boneheaded tactics and strategy ...  HamdenRice   Dec-06-04 12:01 PM   #19 
  - Have we killed more civilians than Sadam has yet?  IanDB1   Dec-06-04 12:09 PM   #21 
     - I believe we have ...  HamdenRice   Dec-06-04 12:20 PM   #22 
  - Thanks to all who have posted thus far. I learned a lot from your comments  Husb2Sparkly   Dec-06-04 02:02 PM   #23 
     - Im not good at this foriegn policy stuff but ill give it a shot.  nickshepDEM   Dec-06-04 02:52 PM   #24 
 

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