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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:43 PM
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21. The DLC is no friend to our cause.
I just finished reading this article and it only reinforces my belief that our party is in serious trouble.

Looking Back, Looking Forward
People Must Have More to Live for Than to Die For

IN 1940 FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT confronted an entirely divided country, divided sectionally and politically much as it is today, and declared: "We will have a liberal democracy, or we will return to the Dark Ages."

Liberals to Arms! We need to regroup, reconsider, reorganize. For thirty years I have been privileged to study America's great liberals, particularly Dwight Eisenhower and Eleanor Roosevelt. They have much to tell us about where we might go from here, and how once again to get there.

To see how far along a dastardly path we have crawled, it is important to remember that Eisenhower called himself "a militant liberal." On November 16, 1953, he wrote to John Foster Dulles that his Administration was "committed to...policies that will bring the greatest good to the greatest number. This means that there must be lifted from the minds of men the fears of disaster, poverty, and old age." He campaigned for national healthcare and appointed former Women's Army Corps commander Oveta Culp Hobby to head his new Department of Health, Education, and Welfare. Together with Eleanor Roosevelt and her friend Esther Lape, Hobby and Eisenhower fought for a single-payer health system to cover all Americans. Eisenhower increased the minimum wage, extended the excess-profits tax, expanded the public-housing program and warned the nation of the dangers of the military-industrial complex, which he originally called the Congressional-industrial-military complex.

Eisenhower wrote his brother Edgar on May 2, 1956: "Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again.... There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H.L. Hunt...a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid."


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  -(OMG! The PNAC/DLC Connection!)No More Moore: DLC Joins the Witch-Hunt JohnOneillsMemory  Dec-03-04 06:24 PM   #0 
  - Michael Moore for DNC chairman  genius   Dec-03-04 06:25 PM   #1 
  - Moore for DLC CHair  whalerider55   Dec-03-04 06:26 PM   #2 
  - and Deputy DLC, "your boy and ours!" Dennis Kucinich!  ElectroPrincess   Dec-03-04 06:26 PM   #3 
  - .  Vincardog   Dec-03-04 06:34 PM   #12 
  - I have to say that it doesn't seem reasonable to let the voice of the  MJDuncan1982   Dec-03-04 06:27 PM   #4 
  - It was largely factual...  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Dec-03-04 06:30 PM   #6 
  - Well, I read Richard Clarke's book and he ordered the removal  MJDuncan1982   Dec-03-04 06:34 PM   #11 
     - Well, then it's a matter of degrees.  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Dec-03-04 06:41 PM   #18 
     - Who?  Geek_Girl   Dec-05-04 06:35 PM   #80 
     - on this you base  koopie57   Dec-03-04 06:42 PM   #20 
     - Who ordered Clark to do that?  Sterling   Dec-03-04 06:48 PM   #22 
     - Thank you......  serryjw   Dec-03-04 08:40 PM   #50 
     - He didn't "order" the Royal Family removal, he  wolfgirl   Dec-03-04 06:50 PM   #23 
     - Clarke covered up Operation Vigilant Warrior and shoot down of TWA800.  JohnOneillsMemory   Dec-03-04 07:20 PM   #35 
     - WOW! I love you log in name....  serryjw   Dec-03-04 08:51 PM   #53 
     - Go back and read Clarke's book again.  bvar22   Dec-03-04 07:22 PM   #36 
  - Moore is one of the very few to call the Bushies on their shit.  SmokingJacket   Dec-03-04 06:31 PM   #7 
  - Was unaware that the DLC had nothing to do with the Democrats. EOM  MJDuncan1982   Dec-03-04 06:33 PM   #9 
     - You have some serious reading comprehension issues...  Sterling   Dec-03-04 06:51 PM   #25 
  - AMEN!!! n/t  Perky   Dec-03-04 06:31 PM   #8 
  - The Dems BIG Mistake!  Disturbed   Dec-03-04 06:34 PM   #10 
  - I agree completely. Dean should have been the candidate...the  MJDuncan1982   Dec-03-04 06:34 PM   #13 
  - give us chapter and verse  RedSock   Dec-03-04 06:34 PM   #15 
  - "9/11" was far from factual  RetroLounge   Dec-03-04 07:38 PM   #42 
  - From's offensive remark goes beyond that point  Rose Siding   Dec-03-04 07:40 PM   #44 
  - Far from factual? What the hell did he say that wasn't true? nt  BullGooseLoony   Dec-04-04 05:21 PM   #76 
  - Amusing that this was so swiftly moved.  flying_blind   Dec-03-04 06:29 PM   #5 
  - Yeah. This was shuffled here in 45 seconds. WTF?  JohnOneillsMemory   Dec-03-04 06:34 PM   #14 
     - This website is WAY less tolerant than you might imagine  flying_blind   Dec-03-04 06:39 PM   #17 
     - btw YOU win the DU 'handle' award in my opinon  flying_blind   Dec-03-04 06:42 PM   #19 
     - His personal/professional demise tells the whole story. Wm. Pitt showed us  JohnOneillsMemory   Dec-03-04 08:12 PM   #46 
        - need saved link..  flying_blind   Dec-03-04 09:23 PM   #57 
     - Please. Stop It  Crisco   Dec-03-04 06:55 PM   #28 
        - Published on Friday, December 3, 2004 by the New York Press.  JohnOneillsMemory   Dec-03-04 07:32 PM   #39 
  - This may be one of the more important threads to keep alive. I admit  higher class   Dec-03-04 06:35 PM   #16 
  - We are learning that the Dems aren't who they say they are  JohnOneillsMemory   Dec-03-04 06:54 PM   #27 
     - Bingo!  FrustratedDemInNC   Dec-03-04 06:58 PM   #30 
     - Can we say that here?  Sterling   Dec-03-04 10:18 PM   #63 
  - The DLC is no friend to our cause.  FrustratedDemInNC   Dec-03-04 06:43 PM   #21 
  - HA!  BayCityProgressive   Dec-03-04 06:51 PM   # 
  - HA!  BayCityProgressive   Dec-03-04 06:51 PM   #26 
  - MIC and the Multi-Corps  Disturbed   Dec-03-04 06:58 PM   #31 
     - You express my fears!  FrustratedDemInNC   Dec-03-04 07:04 PM   #33 
  - This Was Moved Out of LBN Because  Crisco   Dec-03-04 06:50 PM   #24 
  - Thanks for the clarification which would be good to include in the move.  JohnOneillsMemory   Dec-03-04 06:57 PM   #29 
     - Yeah, Sort of  Crisco   Dec-03-04 07:04 PM   #32 
        - there's always more to the story  flying_blind   Dec-03-04 07:18 PM   #34 
           - Well  Crisco   Dec-03-04 09:17 PM   #55 
              - as anticipated. Thanx for insites.... n/t  flying_blind   Dec-03-04 09:20 PM   #56 
  - Disgusting  not fooled   Dec-03-04 07:25 PM   #37 
  - So, it's official,  msgadget   Dec-03-04 07:29 PM   #38 
  - Actually, shows the DLC wants the same oil war the Torture Pretzeldent  JohnOneillsMemory   Dec-03-04 07:38 PM   #41 
  - I will not vote if they run another DLCer.  chaska   Dec-03-04 07:39 PM   #43 
  - Fuck the DLC and there little dogs too.  kohodog   Dec-03-04 07:34 PM   #40 
  - Grassroots work in progress!  bvar22   Dec-03-04 08:20 PM   #47 
     - Thanks  kohodog   Dec-03-04 08:29 PM   #48 
     - I'm planning too.  bvar22   Dec-03-04 08:32 PM   #49 
     - This is where I'm throwing my support  hippywife   Dec-04-04 09:50 AM   #68 
  - What the hell? Michael's the only one with cojones!  proudbluestater   Dec-03-04 08:10 PM   #45 
  - Now we are all black. They even lynch white people...  JohnOneillsMemory   Dec-03-04 08:44 PM   #51 
  - Don't forget Howard Dean  ChicanoPwr   Dec-03-04 11:19 PM   #67 
  - kerry would have won if he would have hired Moore to make TV ads for him  hollowdweller   Dec-03-04 08:44 PM   #52 
  - Problem is Kerry didn't want to expose the oil war he tried to inherit.  JohnOneillsMemory   Dec-03-04 09:16 PM   #54 
     - Read "Into the Buzzsaw", the chapter on oil...  kohodog   Dec-03-04 09:23 PM   #58 
  - Back off bin Ladens  flying_blind   Dec-03-04 09:27 PM   #59 
  - this is precisely why I am leaving the Democratic Party  Nordic   Dec-03-04 09:29 PM   #60 
  - Either we start a new one or throw the bastards out  kohodog   Dec-03-04 09:37 PM   #61 
  - you got it. Howard Dean needs to start a new party  Nordic   Dec-04-04 02:44 PM   #74 
  - HAHA....i hear ya....i am sick of this shite too..... n/t  billie_   Dec-03-04 10:29 PM   #64 
  - well that does it  Carolina   Dec-03-04 10:03 PM   #62 
  - we need to take our power & our country back...n/t  billie_   Dec-03-04 10:31 PM   #65 
  - These fucking treasonous pieces of shit should be in prison or dead  AntiCoup2K4   Dec-03-04 10:45 PM   #66 
  - FUCK THE DLC!  ElsewheresDaughter   Dec-04-04 09:52 AM   #69 
  - I second that.  BullGooseLoony   Dec-04-04 05:26 PM   #77 
  - The DLC is out to wage war  mmonk   Dec-04-04 09:53 AM   #70 
  - PNAC signing/Michale Moore bashing...... Red Alert  AmerDem   Dec-04-04 10:15 AM   #71 
  - I've said right along Lieberman is a troll.  intheflow   Dec-04-04 12:47 PM   #72 
  - Now read this article from Nov 2002 that warned us!  JohnOneillsMemory   Dec-04-04 02:22 PM   #73 
  - kick. n/t  JohnOneillsMemory   Dec-04-04 05:19 PM   #75 
     - Kicking for the weekend. Know who your friends AREN'T. n/t  JohnOneillsMemory   Dec-05-04 05:07 PM   #78 
  - More  Eloriel   Dec-05-04 06:20 PM   #79 

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