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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:20 AM
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3. this is a modified version of my post on another thread
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 11:21 AM by stellanoir
I've admired Bev enormously for a very long time.

However Olberman is the only MSM dude offering any coverage whatsoever. Let's perhaps not be so quick to roast him.
We have no clue really, of the scheduling or corporate pressure he is operating under.

Bev has been moving heaven and earth since the election to expose the widespread fraud. She may have very grounded legal reasons to not divulge all her info so quickly.

I just fear that what was probably nothing more than a misunderstanding and scheduling conflict has been blown completely out of proportion and has caused many to make the fundamental mistake that dems often make. . .that is. . .of forming the circular firing squad all too quickly, and losing sight of what's really at stake.

A representative legislature is at stake. Election fraud fundamentally equals taxation without representation.

Maybe let's just be mindful of who is speaking the truth and dismiss what is really no more than a silly misunderstanding. There is so much at stake. Look at the broader picture guys.

If we don't fix this now, there won't be a free and fair and verifiable election again in a good (or not so good) long time.
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  -Discussion is needed ....Olberman/Harris AmerDem  Dec-02-04 11:14 AM   #0 
  - Easily solved. She could produce the tapes. End of  TexasSissy   Dec-02-04 11:18 AM   #1 
  - Response  BevHarris   Dec-02-04 11:35 AM   #8 
     - Those with clear heads are behind you, Bev.  Village Idiot   Dec-02-04 11:40 AM   #11 
     - Thanks Bev  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 11:47 AM   #17 
     - Why would Olbermann lie?  Killarney   Dec-02-04 11:50 AM   #18 
     - Why would Olberman use wording  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 11:57 AM   #28 
        - You're talking about the guy that voluntarily left  Killarney   Dec-02-04 11:59 AM   #29 
           - He has always shown integrity  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 12:13 PM   #33 
     - Bev - it is extremely important to patch things up immediately  Rockerdem   Dec-02-04 12:14 PM   #34 
     - Thanks for posting Bev! Daaaaamn. I missed Olbermann last night  in_cog_ni_to   Dec-02-04 01:28 PM   #69 
  - I'm trying to figure it out.  Killarney   Dec-02-04 11:20 AM   #2 
  - I can't see a misunderstanding like this  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 11:32 AM   #6 
  - last response  BevHarris   Dec-02-04 11:51 AM   #21 
  - Thanks Bev  Lone_Star_Dem   Dec-02-04 12:02 PM   #31 
  - Olbermann:  rman   Dec-02-04 11:55 AM   #25 
     - Oh for Christ's sake.  Killarney   Dec-02-04 11:56 AM   #27 
        - whatever stories he does, it hasn't had much effect.  rman   Dec-02-04 12:03 PM   #32 
  - this is a modified version of my post on another thread  stellanoir   Dec-02-04 11:20 AM   #3 
  - I'm not in any way taking sides or  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 11:37 AM   #9 
  - response  BevHarris   Dec-02-04 11:41 AM   #13 
  - Just because  Village Idiot   Dec-02-04 11:46 AM   #16 
     - also true  Snivi Yllom   Dec-02-04 11:51 AM   #20 
  - Chuckles ...  Trajan   Dec-02-04 11:20 AM   #4 
  - Well, fighting about it sure is one way to bring the issue to light  GreenPartyVoter   Dec-02-04 11:22 AM   #5 
  - one thing to note  Snivi Yllom   Dec-02-04 11:35 AM   #7 
  - in what way?  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 11:39 AM   #10 
  - What exactly was changed?  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 11:41 AM   #12 
  - the edits are up now  Snivi Yllom   Dec-02-04 11:42 AM   #14 
  - Thanks for showing the edits  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 11:45 AM   #15 
  - dunno what to make of them  Snivi Yllom   Dec-02-04 11:50 AM   #19 
     - Maybe Olberman should stick another post on his blog  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 11:52 AM   #23 
     - KO pretty much is already stating this on his blog  Snivi Yllom   Dec-02-04 11:54 AM   #24 
     - Yes, it's pretty evident there between the lines  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 11:56 AM   #26 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-02-04 12:26 PM   #37 
        - I'm not a fool  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 12:48 PM   #47 
     - This is SOP for Bev  plan9_pub   Dec-02-04 01:21 PM   #64 
        - sort of like changing the results of say, voting?  Snivi Yllom   Dec-02-04 01:24 PM   #67 
           - There was an irony there  plan9_pub   Dec-02-04 01:30 PM   #70 
  - Could the change...  noel711   Dec-02-04 11:52 AM   #22 
  - I did the edits, and even I don't see what facts were changed  BevHarris   Dec-02-04 11:59 AM   #30 
     - legal language is very precise  Snivi Yllom   Dec-02-04 12:28 PM   #39 
        - You seem to be confusing a web site update with a legal pleading  BevHarris   Dec-02-04 12:36 PM   #41 
           - So under that logic  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 12:38 PM   #42 
           - and under your logic  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 12:46 PM   #46 
              - Olberman's credibility is superior to Harris'  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 12:49 PM   #49 
                 - oh please  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 12:53 PM   #55 
                    - Um, let's see  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 12:57 PM   #57 
                       - I'm glad you hold such faith  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 01:01 PM   #59 
                          - they have more credibility than a web site owner  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 01:02 PM   #60 
                             - website owner?  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 01:12 PM   #61 
                                - She hasn't exposed a thing!  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 01:15 PM   #62 
                                   - I guess you missed  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 01:20 PM   #63 
                                      - That proved not a single thing  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 01:23 PM   #65 
                                         - well you know what?  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 01:44 PM   #74 
           - in your edited statement you claim to have shown the tape to CNN  Snivi Yllom   Dec-02-04 12:44 PM   #44 
              - We showed the Volusia County POLL TAPES to CNN  BevHarris   Dec-02-04 12:52 PM   #51 
              - Pretty stark contradiction there  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 12:53 PM   #54 
                 - Where's the contradiction?  in_cog_ni_to   Dec-02-04 01:50 PM   #78 
  - dearest Bev  uncle ray   Dec-02-04 12:21 PM   #35 
  - are you for real?  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 12:27 PM   #38 
  - Harris has declined to respond to our inquiries  rawstory   Dec-02-04 12:25 PM   #36 
  - I know for a fact you follow up with sources and will personally call  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 12:40 PM   #43 
  - Yes. We were receiving 1,000 emails an hour and 800 calls a day  BevHarris   Dec-02-04 12:45 PM   #45 
     - Let me know with your next breakthrough  rawstory   Dec-02-04 01:24 PM   #66 
     - Bev Please Explain  Wiley50   Dec-02-04 01:46 PM   #75 
  - A common complaint from members of the media  plan9_pub   Dec-02-04 01:27 PM   #68 
  - It's pretty clear now that:  Rockerdem   Dec-02-04 12:35 PM   #40 
  - in her own statement she said she showed it to CNN. Why not MSNBC?  Snivi Yllom   Dec-02-04 12:49 PM   #48 
  - Maybe CNN was promised an exclusive.  Rockerdem   Dec-02-04 12:53 PM   #53 
  - Um, this is getting ridiculous  BevHarris   Dec-02-04 12:50 PM   #50 
  - Sorry, Bev  Rockerdem   Dec-02-04 12:55 PM   #56 
  - Wow - Don't give up on us yet!  Proud_Lefty   Dec-02-04 01:48 PM   #76 
  - Excellent analysis.  Shakespeare   Dec-02-04 12:58 PM   #58 
  - Olbermann Video Clip  Coltrane   Dec-02-04 12:52 PM   #52 
  - What would Michael Moore do???  meisje   Dec-02-04 01:37 PM   #71 
  - who's releasing any video for money?  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 01:49 PM   #77 
  - We Want The Truth...  WHAT   Dec-02-04 01:41 PM   #72 
  - I have seen telling signs that Olberman  PATRICK   Dec-02-04 01:42 PM   #73 
  - That's right - a discussion, not a yelling match  cry baby   Dec-02-04 01:52 PM   #79 
  - I'm locking this please discuss here  Moderator   Dec-02-04 01:53 PM   #80 

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