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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:20 AM
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2. I'm trying to figure it out.
One of them is obviously lying unless there is a huge miscommunication between them.

So... who has reason to lie?

Let's look at both sides.

Harris--it has been insinuated that perhaps she cares about her documentary/money more than the cause. If she had something on tape and released it to Olbermann, it would not be exclusive to her documentary. However, after Olbermann called her out on this by saying, "What Ms. Harris has left herself open to is a charge that as much as any interest she has in the justifiable public concern over our most precious right - the right to a reliable, honest election - she may also have an interest in making her own documentary, on her own schedule, for her own purposes." If she was invited on and refused and ask for the tape and refused, this hurts her reputation. So, she could be lying to save her reputation.

Olbermann--I'm still trying to figure out why he would lie and say he invited Harris when he didn't and say he asked for the tape when he didn't. No idea here.
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  -Discussion is needed ....Olberman/Harris AmerDem  Dec-02-04 11:14 AM   #0 
  - Easily solved. She could produce the tapes. End of  TexasSissy   Dec-02-04 11:18 AM   #1 
  - Response  BevHarris   Dec-02-04 11:35 AM   #8 
     - Those with clear heads are behind you, Bev.  Village Idiot   Dec-02-04 11:40 AM   #11 
     - Thanks Bev  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 11:47 AM   #17 
     - Why would Olbermann lie?  Killarney   Dec-02-04 11:50 AM   #18 
     - Why would Olberman use wording  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 11:57 AM   #28 
        - You're talking about the guy that voluntarily left  Killarney   Dec-02-04 11:59 AM   #29 
           - He has always shown integrity  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 12:13 PM   #33 
     - Bev - it is extremely important to patch things up immediately  Rockerdem   Dec-02-04 12:14 PM   #34 
     - Thanks for posting Bev! Daaaaamn. I missed Olbermann last night  in_cog_ni_to   Dec-02-04 01:28 PM   #69 
  - I'm trying to figure it out.  Killarney   Dec-02-04 11:20 AM   #2 
  - I can't see a misunderstanding like this  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 11:32 AM   #6 
  - last response  BevHarris   Dec-02-04 11:51 AM   #21 
  - Thanks Bev  Lone_Star_Dem   Dec-02-04 12:02 PM   #31 
  - Olbermann:  rman   Dec-02-04 11:55 AM   #25 
     - Oh for Christ's sake.  Killarney   Dec-02-04 11:56 AM   #27 
        - whatever stories he does, it hasn't had much effect.  rman   Dec-02-04 12:03 PM   #32 
  - this is a modified version of my post on another thread  stellanoir   Dec-02-04 11:20 AM   #3 
  - I'm not in any way taking sides or  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 11:37 AM   #9 
  - response  BevHarris   Dec-02-04 11:41 AM   #13 
  - Just because  Village Idiot   Dec-02-04 11:46 AM   #16 
     - also true  Snivi Yllom   Dec-02-04 11:51 AM   #20 
  - Chuckles ...  Trajan   Dec-02-04 11:20 AM   #4 
  - Well, fighting about it sure is one way to bring the issue to light  GreenPartyVoter   Dec-02-04 11:22 AM   #5 
  - one thing to note  Snivi Yllom   Dec-02-04 11:35 AM   #7 
  - in what way?  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 11:39 AM   #10 
  - What exactly was changed?  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 11:41 AM   #12 
  - the edits are up now  Snivi Yllom   Dec-02-04 11:42 AM   #14 
  - Thanks for showing the edits  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 11:45 AM   #15 
  - dunno what to make of them  Snivi Yllom   Dec-02-04 11:50 AM   #19 
     - Maybe Olberman should stick another post on his blog  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 11:52 AM   #23 
     - KO pretty much is already stating this on his blog  Snivi Yllom   Dec-02-04 11:54 AM   #24 
     - Yes, it's pretty evident there between the lines  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 11:56 AM   #26 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-02-04 12:26 PM   #37 
        - I'm not a fool  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 12:48 PM   #47 
     - This is SOP for Bev  plan9_pub   Dec-02-04 01:21 PM   #64 
        - sort of like changing the results of say, voting?  Snivi Yllom   Dec-02-04 01:24 PM   #67 
           - There was an irony there  plan9_pub   Dec-02-04 01:30 PM   #70 
  - Could the change...  noel711   Dec-02-04 11:52 AM   #22 
  - I did the edits, and even I don't see what facts were changed  BevHarris   Dec-02-04 11:59 AM   #30 
     - legal language is very precise  Snivi Yllom   Dec-02-04 12:28 PM   #39 
        - You seem to be confusing a web site update with a legal pleading  BevHarris   Dec-02-04 12:36 PM   #41 
           - So under that logic  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 12:38 PM   #42 
           - and under your logic  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 12:46 PM   #46 
              - Olberman's credibility is superior to Harris'  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 12:49 PM   #49 
                 - oh please  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 12:53 PM   #55 
                    - Um, let's see  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 12:57 PM   #57 
                       - I'm glad you hold such faith  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 01:01 PM   #59 
                          - they have more credibility than a web site owner  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 01:02 PM   #60 
                             - website owner?  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 01:12 PM   #61 
                                - She hasn't exposed a thing!  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 01:15 PM   #62 
                                   - I guess you missed  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 01:20 PM   #63 
                                      - That proved not a single thing  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 01:23 PM   #65 
                                         - well you know what?  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 01:44 PM   #74 
           - in your edited statement you claim to have shown the tape to CNN  Snivi Yllom   Dec-02-04 12:44 PM   #44 
              - We showed the Volusia County POLL TAPES to CNN  BevHarris   Dec-02-04 12:52 PM   #51 
              - Pretty stark contradiction there  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 12:53 PM   #54 
                 - Where's the contradiction?  in_cog_ni_to   Dec-02-04 01:50 PM   #78 
  - dearest Bev  uncle ray   Dec-02-04 12:21 PM   #35 
  - are you for real?  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 12:27 PM   #38 
  - Harris has declined to respond to our inquiries  rawstory   Dec-02-04 12:25 PM   #36 
  - I know for a fact you follow up with sources and will personally call  Walt Starr   Dec-02-04 12:40 PM   #43 
  - Yes. We were receiving 1,000 emails an hour and 800 calls a day  BevHarris   Dec-02-04 12:45 PM   #45 
     - Let me know with your next breakthrough  rawstory   Dec-02-04 01:24 PM   #66 
     - Bev Please Explain  Wiley50   Dec-02-04 01:46 PM   #75 
  - A common complaint from members of the media  plan9_pub   Dec-02-04 01:27 PM   #68 
  - It's pretty clear now that:  Rockerdem   Dec-02-04 12:35 PM   #40 
  - in her own statement she said she showed it to CNN. Why not MSNBC?  Snivi Yllom   Dec-02-04 12:49 PM   #48 
  - Maybe CNN was promised an exclusive.  Rockerdem   Dec-02-04 12:53 PM   #53 
  - Um, this is getting ridiculous  BevHarris   Dec-02-04 12:50 PM   #50 
  - Sorry, Bev  Rockerdem   Dec-02-04 12:55 PM   #56 
  - Wow - Don't give up on us yet!  Proud_Lefty   Dec-02-04 01:48 PM   #76 
  - Excellent analysis.  Shakespeare   Dec-02-04 12:58 PM   #58 
  - Olbermann Video Clip  Coltrane   Dec-02-04 12:52 PM   #52 
  - What would Michael Moore do???  meisje   Dec-02-04 01:37 PM   #71 
  - who's releasing any video for money?  AmerDem   Dec-02-04 01:49 PM   #77 
  - We Want The Truth...  WHAT   Dec-02-04 01:41 PM   #72 
  - I have seen telling signs that Olberman  PATRICK   Dec-02-04 01:42 PM   #73 
  - That's right - a discussion, not a yelling match  cry baby   Dec-02-04 01:52 PM   #79 
  - I'm locking this please discuss here  Moderator   Dec-02-04 01:53 PM   #80 

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