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56. Riverbend: "We are occupied by murderers"
From November 16:

My little cousin flinched and dropped her spoon, face frozen with shock, eyes wide with disbelief, glued to the television screen, "Is he dead? Did they kill him?" I swallowed hard, trying to gulp away the lump lodged in my throat and watched as my cousin buried his face in his hands, ashamed to look at his daughter.

"What was I supposed to tell them?" He asked, an hour later, after we had sent his two daughters to help their grandmother in the kitchen. "What am I supposed to tell them- 'Yes darling, they killed him- the Americans killed a wounded man; they are occupying our country, killing people and we are sitting here eating, drinking and watching tv'?" He shook his head, "How much more do they have to see? What is left for them to see?"


It's typical American technique- every single atrocity is lost and covered up by blaming a specific person and getting it over with. What people don't understand is that the whole military is infested with these psychopaths. In this last year we've seen murderers, torturers and xenophobes running around in tanks and guns. I don't care what does it: I don't care if it's the tension, the fear, the 'enemy' it's murder. We are occupied by murderers. We're under the same pressure, as Iraqis, except that we weren't trained for this situation, and yet we're all expected to be benevolent and understanding and, above all, grateful. I'm feeling sick, depressed and frightened. I don't know what to say anymore they aren't humans and they don't deserve any compassion.

So why is the world so obsessed with beheadings? How is this so very different? The difference is that the people who are doing the beheadings are extremists the people slaughtering Iraqis- torturing in prisons and shooting wounded prisoners- are "American Heroes". Congratulations, you must be so proud of yourselves today.
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  -I do not support the insurgents in Iraq cali  Nov-20-04 10:10 AM   #0 
  - I really don't think anyone here supports anything about this  spenbax   Nov-20-04 10:17 AM   #1 
  - Not a good analogy, but let's go with it.  cali   Nov-20-04 10:38 AM   #11 
  - Your Comment Makes Some Sense...BUT...  GR   Nov-20-04 10:18 AM   #2 
  - It was really unfair  Wright Patman   Nov-20-04 10:19 AM   #3 
  - The "insurgents" are defending their own country  RC   Nov-20-04 10:24 AM   #4 
  - then why haven't the Kurds and Shiites joined the insurgents?  barb162   Nov-20-04 11:42 AM   #38 
  - Apparently neither does anyone else  Ardee   Nov-20-04 10:26 AM   #5 
  - Bullshit.  cali   Nov-20-04 10:51 AM   #14 
  - Dont have far to go  Ardee   Nov-20-04 10:53 AM   #15 
  - Pathetic.  cali   Nov-20-04 11:07 AM   #22 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-20-04 11:10 AM   #23 
  - "The group think that goes on around here is frankly, rather discouraging.  eleny   Nov-20-04 11:35 AM   #34 
  - I bet that group think would really bug you  Forkboy   Nov-20-04 11:38 AM   #36 
  - I am so sick of the fucking McCarthyism on this site.  Selwynn   Nov-20-04 11:00 AM   #18 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-20-04 11:12 AM   #24 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-20-04 11:21 AM   #27 
     - Selwynn didn't deserve that  eleny   Nov-20-04 11:52 AM   #46 
     - Guess you fit right in here too  Forkboy   Nov-20-04 11:23 AM   #28 
        - In what way, exactly?  Selwynn   Nov-20-04 01:40 PM   #66 
  - Interesting rant....  Spazito   Nov-20-04 10:30 AM   #6 
  - That's not entirely true  sangh0   Nov-20-04 12:10 PM   #55 
     - ahhh, but bombs coming from 5000 feet above is okay?  Spazito   Nov-20-04 02:09 PM   #72 
        - So it's OK for Iraqis to plant bombs for money  sangh0   Nov-20-04 05:02 PM   #74 
  - Terrorism is not justified  ayeshahaqqiqa   Nov-20-04 10:30 AM   #7 
  - if you're a foriegner in iraq, and don't want bad things happening to you  KG   Nov-20-04 10:31 AM   #8 
  - Gee  Ardee   Nov-20-04 10:55 AM   #16 
     - Of course those foreigners were invited. And there are worse things....  mondo joe   Nov-20-04 11:01 AM   #19 
     - yeah there are worse things  Ardee   Nov-20-04 11:06 AM   #21 
     - actually, i was thinking in terms of coalitions soldiers and the gaggle  KG   Nov-20-04 11:19 AM   #26 
        - Bravo.  mondo joe   Nov-20-04 11:39 AM   #37 
        - Two things  Ardee   Nov-20-04 11:47 AM   #41 
           - You're making me laugh  mondo joe   Nov-20-04 11:50 AM   #45 
              - It is good to laugh  Ardee   Nov-20-04 11:59 AM   #50 
        - Pompous much?  Ardee   Nov-20-04 11:44 AM   #40 
  - Shades of grey are a dangerous thing in GD  DS1   Nov-20-04 10:31 AM   #9 
  - I know, but so, evidently,  cali   Nov-20-04 10:57 AM   #17 
     - I hear ya, pal  DS1   Nov-20-04 01:54 PM   #68 
  - There's nothing to support in this war.  liberalmuse   Nov-20-04 10:34 AM   #10 
  - War is not fair. War is hell. None of us can support EITHER side, if  HypnoToad   Nov-20-04 10:40 AM   #12 
  - You're right. So what? What does that change? It changes nothing.  w4rma   Nov-20-04 10:43 AM   #13 
  - Agreed, they are scum......  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Nov-20-04 11:01 AM   #20 
  - OK, you deplore the tactics of the insurgents  ScrewyRabbit   Nov-20-04 11:16 AM   #25 
  - Sorry you screwyrabbit, you  cali   Nov-20-04 11:31 AM   #32 
     - You didn't really respond to my point  ScrewyRabbit   Nov-20-04 12:01 PM   #52 
        - Jeezum Crow  cali   Nov-20-04 12:20 PM   #60 
           - "Didn't even hint at it?"  ScrewyRabbit   Nov-20-04 12:36 PM   #63 
  - I remember that during the Vietnam War too the Vietnamese people  KlatooBNikto   Nov-20-04 11:24 AM   #29 
  - An ugly occupation does not beget a beautiful resistance.  Minstrel Boy   Nov-20-04 11:25 AM   #30 
  - That's a good point, but like most points it's  cali   Nov-20-04 11:44 AM   #39 
  - So, If Russia Attacked And Occupied America, Would You Then  mhr   Nov-20-04 11:30 AM   #31 
  - Please read post #11  cali   Nov-20-04 11:54 AM   #48 
  - Agree Completely - We Should Leave Immediately  mhr   Nov-20-04 01:20 PM   #64 
  - I'd kill Russian troops, not set off car bombs that kill innocent civies  Zynx   Nov-20-04 12:24 PM   #62 
  - Unjustifiable but also unsurprising.  SnowGoose   Nov-20-04 11:31 AM   #33 
  - hi cali; you sure have thick skin! n/t  barb162   Nov-20-04 11:37 AM   #35 
  - Hi, barb  cali   Nov-20-04 11:49 AM   #43 
     - good for you!  barb162   Nov-20-04 11:54 AM   #49 
  - I don't support the use of violence for political ends.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-20-04 11:48 AM   #42 
  - I would be wonderful if  FlaGranny   Nov-20-04 12:15 PM   #57 
  - The "insurgents" are not monolithic. Some commit such atrocities...  Darranar   Nov-20-04 11:50 AM   #44 
  - Which are "terrorist tactics" and which are legitimate?  mondo joe   Nov-20-04 11:52 AM   #47 
  - That's actually a fair question  cali   Nov-20-04 12:04 PM   #53 
     - Good. It was intended to be fair.  mondo joe   Nov-20-04 12:09 PM   #54 
        - Bingo. This was the point I was trying to make, too.  ScrewyRabbit   Nov-20-04 12:19 PM   #59 
  - "I do not support the invasion of Iraq"  otohara   Nov-20-04 12:01 PM   #51 
  - Riverbend: "We are occupied by murderers"  Minstrel Boy   Nov-20-04 12:12 PM   #56 
  - actually Iraqis are being beheaded too  barb162   Nov-20-04 12:23 PM   #61 
  - they didn't start it  Cocoa   Nov-20-04 12:19 PM   #58 
  - I don't see any Kurds criping about us being there or too many  barb162   Nov-20-04 01:28 PM   #65 
  - I believe there is a difference between sympathizing and "condoning"  Selwynn   Nov-20-04 01:44 PM   #67 
  - Yeah! They should just line up their army  JNelson6563   Nov-20-04 01:55 PM   #69 
  - I agree.  DireStrike   Nov-20-04 01:58 PM   #70 
  - Never forget the mighty Muslim invasion force!!  dpibel   Nov-20-04 07:20 PM   #75 
  - I agree. It's not black and white either way.  leyton   Nov-20-04 02:03 PM   #71 
  - Thankfully, no one is asking you to support Tahid wal Jihad.  Zhade   Nov-20-04 03:28 PM   #73 

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