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Mon Nov-15-04 08:04 AM
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are not the same. Materialist positivism as faith in the current scientific paradigm has equal function of giving sense of security as other faiths, ie. unquestioned dogmas.
Buddhism, Gnosticism, Taoism etc. are usually counted as religions, yet they have little to do with faith, on the opposite, their soteriology is to free oneself from all beliefs and other dualistic delusions.
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| -Religious fanatic? Blame it on 'god gene': |
UpInArms |
Nov-15-04 07:32 AM |
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So When It Comes To Queers, Fundies Call It A Genetic Flaw... |
arwalden |
Nov-15-04 07:35 AM |
#1 |
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how about Queers who are fundies |
Cheswick2.0 |
Nov-15-04 08:05 AM |
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speaking from a scientific point of view |
Hey Zeus |
Nov-16-04 08:32 AM |
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as good an explanation |
jukes |
Nov-15-04 07:35 AM |
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I doubt the "gene" theory. But, I do think that the religious |
ladjf |
Nov-15-04 08:02 AM |
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a person after my own heart. |
jdj |
Nov-15-04 08:04 AM |
#15 |
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Child abuse and psyche murder |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 08:17 AM |
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Your implication that e-voting is one of the root problems |
ladjf |
Nov-15-04 09:07 AM |
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in their dreams |
m berst |
Nov-15-04 05:25 PM |
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Do you mean to say that all persons of faith are diseased? |
HuskerDem |
Nov-15-04 03:27 PM |
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I don't know but I am glad that I lack that particular gene.. |
Blue State Native |
Nov-15-04 03:52 PM |
#105 |
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perhaps look at precedents? |
m berst |
Nov-15-04 05:35 PM |
#126 |
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Nope. Fear and ignorance. |
leesa |
Nov-15-04 07:38 AM |
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Can stem cell research cure this? |
lizzieforkerry |
Nov-15-04 07:41 AM |
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LOL |
jdj |
Nov-15-04 08:04 AM |
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No wonder they oppose it. |
End of all Hope |
Nov-15-04 08:38 AM |
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The Calvinists and hardcore Lutherans should love this one. |
Flammable Materials |
Nov-15-04 07:42 AM |
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I have read too about the connection between epilepsy |
trotsky |
Nov-15-04 07:42 AM |
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There is connection |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 07:57 AM |
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I think you just found your new DU name |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Nov-15-04 01:09 PM |
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Looking back on my Mother's family history |
demnan |
Nov-15-04 07:43 AM |
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Stupidity |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 07:49 AM |
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Makes sense |
abburdlen |
Nov-15-04 07:56 AM |
#9 |
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Faith and religion |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 08:04 AM |
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TIME magazine had an |
H2O Man |
Nov-15-04 07:56 AM |
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That is OFFENSIVE. That article says that people some people.... |
PROGRESSIVE1 |
Nov-15-04 08:00 AM |
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Does it? |
H2O Man |
Nov-15-04 08:14 AM |
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I always think people without faith are simply tragically flat thinkers |
Cheswick2.0 |
Nov-15-04 08:10 AM |
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shame on them for being rational beings, eh? |
lil-petunia |
Nov-15-04 08:24 AM |
#22 |
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Same ole argument |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 08:30 AM |
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not rational... just tragically literal minded |
Cheswick2.0 |
Nov-15-04 08:35 AM |
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Got much ego, there? |
Spider Jerusalem |
Nov-15-04 01:25 PM |
#63 |
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Oh? |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 08:25 AM |
#23 |
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ahh codes word fanatic are we? |
Cheswick2.0 |
Nov-15-04 08:37 AM |
#27 |
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Emoticons |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 09:02 AM |
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You misunderstand the meaning of the word "faith" |
sangh0 |
Nov-15-04 10:44 AM |
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you have misinterpreted the words badly |
Cheswick2.0 |
Nov-15-04 10:49 AM |
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Clichè's |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 01:05 PM |
#58 |
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Look at him/her backpedal |
sangh0 |
Nov-15-04 01:38 PM |
#69 |
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Bring it on! |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 01:53 PM |
#75 |
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More backpedaling |
sangh0 |
Nov-15-04 03:24 PM |
#95 |
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Not getting caught up on code words is exactly why we keep losing |
Solomon |
Nov-15-04 09:08 AM |
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I hope you won't complain if someone flings back at you the same statement |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Nov-15-04 01:13 PM |
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That is interesting because it reminds me of my experience in religion |
End of all Hope |
Nov-15-04 08:48 AM |
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it's the bully gene |
goddess40 |
Nov-15-04 08:04 AM |
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WOAH! Hold on here... |
TalkingDog |
Nov-15-04 08:29 AM |
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What is faith? |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 08:49 AM |
#32 |
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Yeah, so what's yer point there? |
TalkingDog |
Nov-15-04 09:04 AM |
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My point? |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 10:24 AM |
#37 |
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YOu don't understand the meaning of the word "faith" |
sangh0 |
Nov-15-04 10:48 AM |
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Yet those who do have "unquestioned belief" and/or "Belief in magic" |
IMModerate |
Nov-15-04 12:13 PM |
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Who cares? |
sangh0 |
Nov-15-04 01:26 PM |
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Uh-huh, anything based on faith runs that risk. |
IMModerate |
Nov-15-04 01:38 PM |
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Runs what risk? |
sangh0 |
Nov-15-04 01:42 PM |
#72 |
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That it's wrong. |
IMModerate |
Nov-15-04 01:56 PM |
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Boy, is that the stupidest argument I've heard today |
sangh0 |
Nov-15-04 03:28 PM |
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Oh come now! |
IMModerate |
Nov-15-04 04:00 PM |
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Wrong again |
sangh0 |
Nov-15-04 04:09 PM |
#112 |
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Faith is not limited to religion. |
IMModerate |
Nov-15-04 04:38 PM |
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No, you said that |
sangh0 |
Nov-15-04 04:40 PM |
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You should read what you wrote. |
IMModerate |
Nov-15-04 05:01 PM |
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Please |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 12:41 PM |
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huh???? |
sangh0 |
Nov-15-04 01:36 PM |
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Wisdom of dictionary |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 02:12 PM |
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Good faith |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 02:26 PM |
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If you wanted a discussion, you wouldn't make stuff up |
sangh0 |
Nov-15-04 03:30 PM |
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Problem is |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 04:31 PM |
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Nope, the problem is you make stuff up |
sangh0 |
Nov-15-04 04:35 PM |
#116 |
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Okay, I'll admit |
TalkingDog |
Nov-15-04 10:55 AM |
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No, thank you |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 12:55 PM |
#56 |
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Holographic Universe? |
TalkingDog |
Nov-15-04 04:03 PM |
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Something like |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 04:58 PM |
#121 |
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Also a good book. |
TalkingDog |
Nov-15-04 06:56 PM |
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Faith = "Belief in that which we do not fully understand" |
LanternWaste |
Nov-15-04 04:15 PM |
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Flash! Dean Hamer |
Jackpine Radical |
Nov-15-04 08:37 AM |
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ah, but what if that finding conflicts with our beliefs? |
lil-petunia |
Nov-15-04 08:42 AM |
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Scientific truth |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 10:37 AM |
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but willful ignorance is entirely different and that is what most |
lil-petunia |
Nov-15-04 10:50 AM |
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I love it when people make stupid statements like "faith is bullshit" |
Cheswick2.0 |
Nov-15-04 10:54 AM |
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FAITH is bullshit. |
lil-petunia |
Nov-15-04 11:00 AM |
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it takes a lot of faith... |
m berst |
Nov-15-04 01:00 PM |
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I have no doubt at all that in many ways I am stupid, ignorant. |
lil-petunia |
Nov-15-04 01:10 PM |
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you don't keep your faith to yourself |
m berst |
Nov-15-04 01:27 PM |
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You generalize too much |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 02:33 PM |
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You lecture too much |
sangh0 |
Nov-15-04 03:44 PM |
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You denigrate yourself |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 04:38 PM |
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Making more stuff up won't help you |
sangh0 |
Nov-15-04 04:43 PM |
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Whatever the reason, more of the Democratic base need to make peace |
w4rma |
Nov-15-04 10:37 AM |
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Most of the democratic base are christians |
Cheswick2.0 |
Nov-15-04 10:56 AM |
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where do you come up with this nonsense? |
lil-petunia |
Nov-15-04 11:17 AM |
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I'm a Christian. |
w4rma |
Nov-15-04 11:20 AM |
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India is the largest democracy. |
IMModerate |
Nov-15-04 12:10 PM |
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to the contrary. We cannot give in to these crazies |
lil-petunia |
Nov-15-04 11:24 AM |
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The Fundies want surrender, not peace |
Axel |
Nov-15-04 01:43 PM |
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Faith is the capacity to believe in something you know is false. |
IMModerate |
Nov-15-04 12:01 PM |
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the brain hates a vacuum, unless you happen to work for Cheney |
lil-petunia |
Nov-15-04 12:49 PM |
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quite a post |
m berst |
Nov-15-04 01:13 PM |
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So let me get this straight |
lil-petunia |
Nov-15-04 01:34 PM |
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let's see if I understand |
m berst |
Nov-15-04 01:41 PM |
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religion is an opiate. It is dangerous. |
lil-petunia |
Nov-15-04 01:46 PM |
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false association |
m berst |
Nov-15-04 01:57 PM |
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the concept of "evil" |
m berst |
Nov-15-04 02:01 PM |
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are you saying that without religion there would be no evil? |
lil-petunia |
Nov-15-04 02:08 PM |
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History of Christianity gives us a clue. |
IMModerate |
Nov-15-04 02:21 PM |
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"Christians" aren't a species |
m berst |
Nov-15-04 02:35 PM |
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You conveniently ignore my point. |
IMModerate |
Nov-15-04 03:02 PM |
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false assumptions here |
m berst |
Nov-15-04 03:29 PM |
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I am not criticizing all Christians. |
IMModerate |
Nov-15-04 03:47 PM |
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Why don't you know anything about what you post? |
sangh0 |
Nov-15-04 03:55 PM |
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Grasp those straws! |
IMModerate |
Nov-15-04 05:49 PM |
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back |
m berst |
Nov-15-04 10:59 PM |
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You said Hitler was an atheist. |
IMModerate |
Nov-16-04 08:58 AM |
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Hitler WAS an atheist |
sangh0 |
Nov-16-04 09:44 AM |
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That describes a lunatic, not an atheist. |
IMModerate |
Nov-16-04 09:51 AM |
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Hitler was a lunatic? |
sangh0 |
Nov-16-04 09:58 AM |
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Your description. |
IMModerate |
Nov-16-04 10:10 AM |
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define "good" |
m berst |
Nov-15-04 04:07 PM |
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I have no religion and I can tell good from evil. |
IMModerate |
Nov-15-04 06:17 PM |
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Evaluating religions |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 06:52 PM |
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I agree. |
IMModerate |
Nov-15-04 07:10 PM |
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good and evil |
m berst |
Nov-15-04 10:26 PM |
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you are arguing with a straw man |
m berst |
Nov-15-04 02:28 PM |
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Philosophy |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 03:30 PM |
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Wrong again |
sangh0 |
Nov-15-04 03:45 PM |
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yes |
m berst |
Nov-15-04 03:53 PM |
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Good and evil |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 03:28 PM |
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Ratio and music |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 03:16 PM |
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good point |
m berst |
Nov-15-04 05:03 PM |
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Actually |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 06:23 PM |
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fascinating |
m berst |
Nov-15-04 07:05 PM |
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Credo quid absurdum est |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 01:35 PM |
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Holistic is not based on or related to holy |
IMModerate |
Nov-15-04 02:13 PM |
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Correct me if I'm wrong |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 03:02 PM |
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Etymologically connected. |
IMModerate |
Nov-15-04 03:20 PM |
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Differences and samenesses |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-15-04 04:06 PM |
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science has reached it's limits, it's far from done, |
rman |
Nov-15-04 06:44 PM |
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I think materialism is non-dualistic. |
IMModerate |
Nov-15-04 06:52 PM |
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Dualism |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-16-04 07:28 AM |
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I am using dualism to represent separation of mind and body. |
IMModerate |
Nov-16-04 11:33 AM |
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Mind and body |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-16-04 01:51 PM |
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Non-dualism |
aneerkoinos |
Nov-16-04 10:06 AM |
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The Puritan gene Pool |
Axel |
Nov-15-04 01:53 PM |
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I like it as a theory. |
lil-petunia |
Nov-15-04 01:56 PM |
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I just started reading this post and was going to add my 2 cents.. |
Radicalliberal |
Nov-15-04 05:31 PM |
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God gene? sounds more like bi-polar |
Javaman |
Nov-15-04 02:26 PM |
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they've got genes for everything now... |
seaj11 |
Nov-15-04 02:41 PM |
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Bow down to your god, DU-ers |
Politicub |
Nov-15-04 04:09 PM |
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There was an article published about 2 years ago .... |
Trajan |
Nov-15-04 06:03 PM |
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Surprise, surprise. |
Orion523 |
Nov-15-04 07:07 PM |
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It's cultural |
shrike |
Nov-16-04 10:03 AM |
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