Reply #66: True. And that really sucks. It was a shitty thing to do.

[JVS]

And whenever they spout lies about Democrats we should call them on it. But some of the Green hating here goes beyond the reasonable. For instance, people often say a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush. When Bush says "You are either with us or against us." we know it is bull, but when Democrats say the logically equivalent "A vote for Nader is a vote for Bush" to a Green there is much nodding along. I remember when someone told me that Gore was the same as Bush and I refuted the claim.

The problem here is that an increase in hostility will only solidify the Green party's base. Look at it this way: they can ruin elections for us, but because they have nothing there is nothing to do to them. Is it frustrating? Yes. But getting in a pissing contest with the Greens won't help. We either need to be able to get the votes without them and not cry about their existence or lure them back to the party. I think the latter is probably the way to go right now. If this conflict keeps raging long enough to form a solid Green bloc then the former will be the way to go.