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Sun Oct-24-04 12:56 AM
Response to Reply #76 |
| 84. Uh, check the link again. Kristol DID sign it. |
| -Should Kerry's Advisors Sign PNAC Statements? |
Zhade |
Oct-23-04 01:59 PM |
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Looks like the USA is dead. Democracy has died. We are going |
FloridaPat |
Oct-23-04 02:05 PM |
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kick |
Billy_Pilgrim |
Oct-23-04 03:26 PM |
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The people that say those things don't realize that.... |
camero |
Oct-23-04 05:15 PM |
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Please do not ignore this new information. |
Zhade |
Oct-23-04 02:09 PM |
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Zhade, no we must not ignore this! This is why were trying to get Kerry |
hopeisontheway |
Oct-23-04 02:13 PM |
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I would, but I'm at work and cannot email them. |
Zhade |
Oct-23-04 02:16 PM |
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"unity" |
Kanary |
Oct-24-04 01:25 AM |
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My note to tellus@johnkerry.com |
donheld |
Oct-24-04 02:05 PM |
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Absolutely right -- and what's more |
Eloriel |
Oct-23-04 11:58 PM |
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Good Lord, what a long list of signatories! |
madfloridian |
Oct-23-04 02:09 PM |
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Did you see Woolsey on Bill Maher last night? |
Zhade |
Oct-23-04 02:13 PM |
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Does no one give a fuck about PNAC anymore? |
Zhade |
Oct-23-04 02:23 PM |
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I don't think this is a PNAC document |
Dufaeth |
Oct-23-04 02:27 PM |
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It's a PNAC document |
charlie |
Oct-23-04 02:38 PM |
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If I put it on my website does that make it |
Dufaeth |
Oct-23-04 02:41 PM |
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It's part of their |
charlie |
Oct-23-04 02:44 PM |
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Can we flesh this out a little? |
Zhade |
Oct-23-04 03:39 PM |
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I've emailed Senators McCain and Biden, |
Dufaeth |
Oct-23-04 03:48 PM |
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Thank you for your efforts. Please let us know if you get a response! |
Zhade |
Oct-23-04 03:50 PM |
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Will do |
Dufaeth |
Oct-23-04 03:58 PM |
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Thank you for injecting some sanity in here |
sherilocks |
Oct-23-04 10:46 PM |
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If that's the case (and it's possible), why is there no disclaimer? |
Zhade |
Oct-24-04 12:52 AM |
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NO no. 13 here. |
Octafish |
Oct-23-04 02:28 PM |
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Don't thank me, thank IkeWarnedUs. He did the legwork on this. |
Zhade |
Oct-23-04 02:30 PM |
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Octafish, I hope that you are right! I know Kerry busted the BCCI and the |
hopeisontheway |
Oct-23-04 02:34 PM |
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It is terrible. I will hold my tongue on what I really think of Kerry |
prayin4rain |
Oct-23-04 02:41 PM |
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"There are many scary things around him, unfortunately." |
Zhade |
Oct-23-04 03:44 PM |
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Why not? We're getting Bush Light when JK wins anyway. |
Billy_Pilgrim |
Oct-23-04 02:43 PM |
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Did you guys bother to read the letter? |
Pepperbelly |
Oct-23-04 03:37 PM |
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It's not the content |
charlie |
Oct-23-04 03:44 PM |
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It's just more of the "let's find anything to bash a Dem" |
sangh0 |
Oct-23-04 03:50 PM |
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Of course, no one made that argument, Sang*. As you well know. |
Zhade |
Oct-23-04 03:55 PM |
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And the distortions begin |
sangh0 |
Oct-23-04 04:00 PM |
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Yes, your distortions begin. It's to be expected. |
Zhade |
Oct-23-04 04:13 PM |
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So no complaints about the letter itself? |
sangh0 |
Oct-23-04 04:14 PM |
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You ducked MY question. Very telling. |
Zhade |
Oct-23-04 04:18 PM |
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You ducked my question AGAIN |
sangh0 |
Oct-23-04 04:19 PM |
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And why won't you tell us what's wrong with the letter itself? |
sangh0 |
Oct-23-04 04:21 PM |
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No one is bashing Dems here? |
Redleg |
Oct-23-04 05:08 PM |
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there is a difference on some domestic policy issues |
nodehopper |
Oct-24-04 10:40 AM |
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the letter in question |
paulk |
Oct-24-04 01:00 PM |
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I did, you are right, I feel better. |
nodehopper |
Oct-24-04 02:04 PM |
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you're entitled but ... |
Pepperbelly |
Oct-23-04 03:53 PM |
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You'd affirm the principles of the document, yeah |
charlie |
Oct-23-04 04:06 PM |
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I'm very mindful of the intentions of the posters |
sangh0 |
Oct-23-04 04:09 PM |
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to each his own. However, Putin's recent behavior is certainly worth ... |
Pepperbelly |
Oct-23-04 04:10 PM |
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Putin is not an issue for some |
sangh0 |
Oct-23-04 04:12 PM |
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No, absolutely NO |
charlie |
Oct-23-04 04:16 PM |
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and more distortions |
sangh0 |
Oct-23-04 04:18 PM |
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The PNAC freaks me out. |
prayin4rain |
Oct-23-04 05:14 PM |
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I have no love for Putin. That doesn't mean I trust PNAC for a second. |
Zhade |
Oct-23-04 03:50 PM |
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This has nothing to do with trust. |
Pepperbelly |
Oct-23-04 03:57 PM |
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They won't answer any questions about the letter itself |
sangh0 |
Oct-23-04 04:02 PM |
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"There are no policy recommendations at the end of it." |
Zhade |
Oct-23-04 04:05 PM |
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Gee, I thought this had nothing to do with Kerry? |
sangh0 |
Oct-23-04 04:06 PM |
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why not keep your ear to the ground re: policy recommendations and ... |
Pepperbelly |
Oct-23-04 04:07 PM |
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Because some can't admit there's nothing to this |
sangh0 |
Oct-23-04 04:08 PM |
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I think that's a wise move. This is about Kerry's advisors, not Kerry. |
Zhade |
Oct-23-04 04:25 PM |
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It's hard to keep track of what you've said I guess |
sangh0 |
Oct-23-04 04:29 PM |
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Considering the report card on PNAC policy initiative ... |
Pepperbelly |
Oct-23-04 04:31 PM |
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Here is Putin's response |
RebelYell |
Oct-23-04 04:09 PM |
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interesting but do you ... |
Pepperbelly |
Oct-23-04 04:16 PM |
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I don't believe in coincidences, but |
RebelYell |
Oct-23-04 04:22 PM |
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Russia is trying to take over Yuko for back taxes |
camero |
Oct-23-04 06:52 PM |
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Anyone that is involved in any way with the PNAC cannot be trusted. The |
Zorra |
Oct-23-04 03:41 PM |
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Should they? |
AG78 |
Oct-23-04 03:56 PM |
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Fuck no! |
porphyrian |
Oct-23-04 04:02 PM |
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Apparently there is no problem with Dems endorsing PNAC statements. |
Zhade |
Oct-23-04 04:21 PM |
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Here's a few more related Russian links |
RebelYell |
Oct-23-04 04:42 PM |
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for clarification |
m berst |
Oct-23-04 05:00 PM |
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Exactly, the problem is these signatures can be seen as legitimizing an |
prayin4rain |
Oct-23-04 05:10 PM |
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Logic! Thanks for understanding my concerns. |
Zhade |
Oct-23-04 08:41 PM |
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Jeebus- did you actually read the letter? |
Redleg |
Oct-23-04 05:11 PM |
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They have a point, that out of principle democrats shouldn't sign it... |
Hippo_Tron |
Oct-23-04 09:01 PM |
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The more things change, the more they stay the same |
camero |
Oct-23-04 05:12 PM |
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Go to bed with dogs, wake up with fleas.... |
prayin4rain |
Oct-23-04 05:16 PM |
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These dogs have much worse in store than fleas |
psychopomp |
Oct-23-04 05:27 PM |
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Hey, CALM DOWN! |
AntiFascist |
Oct-23-04 05:56 PM |
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"Madeleine Albright is very well respected." |
Zhade |
Oct-23-04 08:46 PM |
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Hmmm, I didn't know that about Albright.... |
AntiFascist |
Oct-23-04 10:25 PM |
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CBS won't run the clip ever again. It was horrible. |
Zhade |
Oct-24-04 12:46 AM |
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She apologized profusely |
sandnsea |
Oct-24-04 01:10 AM |
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I don't give her apology any more weight |
hippywife |
Oct-24-04 02:10 PM |
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NO it is NOT OK |
PATRICK |
Oct-23-04 06:20 PM |
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The gist of the letter is correct about Putin |
camero |
Oct-23-04 06:32 PM |
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I looked at most of the letters on the PNAC |
sherilocks |
Oct-23-04 11:06 PM |
#76 |
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William Kristol and WWIV Woolsey did sign it though nt |
AntiFascist |
Oct-23-04 11:39 PM |
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Uh, check the link again. Kristol DID sign it. |
Zhade |
Oct-24-04 12:56 AM |
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Kristol is the chairman of PNAC |
sherilocks |
Oct-24-04 04:39 AM |
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Not unless he wants some nasty letters from the progressive Dems |
genius |
Oct-24-04 12:04 AM |
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how about democracy right here? |
noiretblu |
Oct-24-04 12:05 AM |
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i have no words to describe... |
JibJab |
Oct-24-04 12:10 AM |
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THIS IS NOT A PNAC DOCUMENT!!! |
leftbehind |
Oct-24-04 02:23 AM |
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Good work leftbehind! |
IkeWarnedUs |
Oct-24-04 03:06 AM |
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Thanks, leftbehind. eom |
sherilocks |
Oct-24-04 04:43 AM |
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Good Job! Better internet researcher than me :) eom |
Dufaeth |
Oct-24-04 10:08 AM |
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Excellent find. I notice none of the Kerry bashers responded to this. |
Redleg |
Oct-24-04 10:23 AM |
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The Loony Left Strikes again!! |
sangh0 |
Oct-24-04 10:38 AM |
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ok, thanks, that makes me feel better. |
nodehopper |
Oct-24-04 10:42 AM |
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Thanks, just doing my part for the cause |
leftbehind |
Oct-24-04 02:16 PM |
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As with any of these policy organizations... |
DavidFL |
Oct-24-04 04:19 PM |
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Wow. Great job! This might explain why PNAC snagged the document. |
Zhade |
Oct-24-04 11:21 PM |
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Kerry has always endorsed the primary PNAC objectives... |
mike_c |
Oct-24-04 10:36 AM |
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So I guess it's safe to assume that you think "There's no difference"? |
sangh0 |
Oct-24-04 10:50 AM |
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Sooner or later we'll wake up and realize that the DLC and its candidates |
Selwynn |
Oct-24-04 11:16 AM |
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Selwynn, the letter isn't a PNAC letter |
sangh0 |
Oct-24-04 12:26 PM |
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But it gave me an excuse to tell the truth anyway :) |
Selwynn |
Oct-24-04 12:44 PM |
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True |
sangh0 |
Oct-24-04 01:01 PM |
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I don't either, until they become collaborators... |
Selwynn |
Oct-24-04 01:43 PM |
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I don't think there's any collaboration |
sangh0 |
Oct-24-04 04:22 PM |
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Sangh0, are you actually claiming the DLC is a Trojan Horse group? |
Zhade |
Oct-24-04 11:24 PM |
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Zhade, are you trying to put words in my mouth? |
sangh0 |
Oct-25-04 11:12 AM |
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Zhade, what happend to you? |
sangh0 |
Oct-25-04 03:21 PM |
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PNAC'ers should be tried and executed. |
BiggJawn |
Oct-24-04 01:05 PM |
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You might want to read the thread |
sangh0 |
Oct-24-04 01:17 PM |
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I read it. |
BiggJawn |
Oct-24-04 10:24 PM |
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PNAC looks like another CNP front group - know your enemy |
OutsourceBush |
Oct-24-04 01:27 PM |
#105 |
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