Reply #12: IMHO, it's no longer a question of 'win' (and it never was).

[TahitiNut]

Never.

At one time it might have been a question of whether we'd be committing an illegal act in invading and occupying a sovereign nation based on a deliberate LIE.

It's now a question, for some, of "saving face". I personally don't think we have any "face" to save, but the appropriate course of action people take when they've committed a grievous wrong is to (1) feel and express contrition, and (2) make amends as edicted by some arbiter of justice.

In an ethical sense, it is no longer the role of the US to proclaim what it will do to make amends. It is solely the proper role of the US to comply, contritely, with the demands of an agreed-upon international arbiter. Anything short of that is an exacerbation of the wrongs committed and "obstruction of justice."