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Wed Aug-27-03 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #105 |
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I am a Catholic, I drive by a Muslim temple EVERY DAY. I love it. I drive slow and look at it and admire it's design. That my friend is called tolerance.
I don't want my laws created to help those over sensative intolerants that can't stand the sight of anything they disagree with. Period.
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| -What was really "bad" with the ten commandments? |
Kamika |
Aug-27-03 11:38 AM |
#0 |
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That was not the point - the point is separation of church |
molly |
Aug-27-03 11:40 AM |
#1 |
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I disagree |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 01:03 PM |
#70 |
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It was intended to prevent the establishment of a defacto state religion. |
Brian Sweat |
Aug-27-03 01:25 PM |
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Oh and what is the defacto religion established by the 10? |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 01:34 PM |
#82 |
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"not meant to impose secularism " |
reprobate |
Aug-27-03 02:58 PM |
#98 |
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I disagree |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 03:25 PM |
#102 |
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No connection. |
edward |
Aug-27-03 03:37 PM |
#107 |
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Not so fast |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 04:03 PM |
#118 |
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lol |
sujan |
Aug-27-03 04:09 PM |
#121 |
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The use of land does come at public expense |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 04:12 PM |
#124 |
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so |
sujan |
Aug-27-03 04:16 PM |
#128 |
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Where did that come from? |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 04:18 PM |
#132 |
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I am just peeking thru your pipe dream |
sujan |
Aug-27-03 04:20 PM |
#135 |
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Well then pass the pipe |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 04:28 PM |
#146 |
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I'd like to see you react |
sujan |
Aug-27-03 04:31 PM |
#148 |
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The entire pledge is stupid |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 04:32 PM |
#151 |
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There is a difference between private sponsorship using public |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 03:52 PM |
#114 |
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Don't get me wrong Walt |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 04:05 PM |
#119 |
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Just so long as you agree |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 04:11 PM |
#123 |
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I don't agree with all of that |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 04:15 PM |
#127 |
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Sorry, but you have to take it |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 04:18 PM |
#133 |
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I disagree |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 04:30 PM |
#147 |
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You still don't get it |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 04:34 PM |
#153 |
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I wouldn't display that |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 04:39 PM |
#160 |
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We could do a statue of oral sex |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 04:41 PM |
#162 |
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What religion is that? |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 05:29 PM |
#176 |
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church soccer |
KinkyDem |
Aug-27-03 04:07 PM |
#120 |
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4 ton statue would get in the way |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 04:17 PM |
#130 |
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So long as a monument with "The Bible is nothing but a fairy tale" |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 04:22 PM |
#138 |
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Right... |
KinkyDem |
Aug-27-03 04:50 PM |
#168 |
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The big difference between... |
DarkPhenyx |
Aug-27-03 03:23 PM |
#100 |
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I'm not questioning the wisdom |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 03:28 PM |
#104 |
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You're awfully narrow in your interpretation! |
Interrobang |
Aug-27-03 03:33 PM |
#105 |
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I don't buy it |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 03:35 PM |
#106 |
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You conflate tolerance with law. |
edward |
Aug-27-03 03:41 PM |
#109 |
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Then you have an issue |
Nota_Robought |
Aug-27-03 04:44 PM |
#164 |
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I have an issue with all intolerant poeple that want the law |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 05:47 PM |
#184 |
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It endorses a particular kind of religion |
Sophree |
Aug-27-03 03:49 PM |
#113 |
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I disagree |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 04:11 PM |
#122 |
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It not only endorses a specific religion, it establishes it as official |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 04:13 PM |
#125 |
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That's different |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 04:20 PM |
#136 |
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Nope, allow one and you must allow them all |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 04:24 PM |
#143 |
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Step out of the thought box |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 04:31 PM |
#150 |
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Nope, not acceptable |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 04:35 PM |
#156 |
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I already told you |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 04:38 PM |
#158 |
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And I told you |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 04:44 PM |
#163 |
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So then |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 05:40 PM |
#182 |
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Its also possible to |
Solomon |
Aug-28-03 12:13 AM |
#192 |
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You know what... |
KinkyDem |
Aug-27-03 04:18 PM |
#131 |
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There's a finer distinction there |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 04:20 PM |
#134 |
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yeah well... |
KinkyDem |
Aug-27-03 04:44 PM |
#165 |
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I sort of see your point |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 04:46 PM |
#166 |
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See when someone says |
KinkyDem |
Aug-27-03 04:58 PM |
#169 |
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You should |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 04:22 PM |
#140 |
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But you are all christians. |
Solomon |
Aug-28-03 12:16 AM |
#193 |
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I can tell you the difference between |
Nota_Robought |
Aug-27-03 04:39 PM |
#159 |
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HA! Look who's talking. |
Sophree |
Aug-27-03 04:21 PM |
#137 |
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Great argument |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 04:23 PM |
#142 |
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Butthead |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 04:27 PM |
#145 |
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lol |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 04:32 PM |
#152 |
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I was referring to your "separation of church and state |
Sophree |
Aug-27-03 04:31 PM |
#149 |
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Well then |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 04:35 PM |
#155 |
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Neutrality is the best option.... |
liberal_veteran |
Aug-27-03 05:12 PM |
#170 |
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answers |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 05:36 PM |
#179 |
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Your Avatar Image Says It All Blue_Chill |
CO Liberal |
Aug-27-03 05:17 PM |
#171 |
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Please..... |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 05:39 PM |
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And how would you enforce that? |
liberal_veteran |
Aug-27-03 05:53 PM |
#185 |
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I'm not that petty and you aren't paying attention |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 06:00 PM |
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I agree and they can display it on PRIVATE land. |
liberal_veteran |
Aug-27-03 06:12 PM |
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Why not? |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 11:52 PM |
#191 |
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dupe |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 06:00 PM |
#186 |
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duplicate |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 05:39 PM |
#180 |
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duplicate |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 05:39 PM |
#181 |
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what's the difference? |
noiretblu |
Aug-27-03 02:12 PM |
#95 |
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Forcing to do what? |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 02:18 PM |
#96 |
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Think about this for a minute BC |
KinkyDem |
Aug-27-03 04:22 PM |
#139 |
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First off I'm scared shitless in front of any judge |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 04:37 PM |
#157 |
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Ypou mean like |
KinkyDem |
Aug-27-03 04:41 PM |
#161 |
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Yes like Moore |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 05:42 PM |
#183 |
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You Don't Know Crap About Separation of Church and State |
Einstein |
Aug-29-03 01:12 AM |
#200 |
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Yes from Mesopotania |
bahrbearian |
Aug-27-03 11:43 AM |
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And before that the |
Solomon |
Aug-28-03 12:21 AM |
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The ten commandments have little to do with our laws. |
Clete |
Aug-27-03 11:43 AM |
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I agree |
schrodinger_I |
Aug-27-03 11:48 AM |
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Actually I don't think it was English Common Law |
TSElliott |
Aug-27-03 11:49 AM |
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The Magna Carta is more like the Bill of Rights |
dpbrown |
Aug-27-03 12:02 PM |
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I find it hard to believe |
Twenty3 |
Aug-27-03 12:00 PM |
#29 |
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My understanding is the Big Ten were a good fit for |
Clete |
Aug-27-03 01:00 PM |
#69 |
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That's the kicker. |
FlaGranny |
Aug-27-03 03:39 PM |
#108 |
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public buildings are for everyone |
leftofthedial |
Aug-27-03 11:46 AM |
#4 |
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Jehova's Witnesses and Mormons are Christians too |
monkeyboy |
Aug-27-03 11:47 AM |
#5 |
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Or how about one of Ron Hubbard's Scientology tomes? |
Clete |
Aug-27-03 11:49 AM |
#9 |
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Or an inflatable Santa Claus... |
monkeyboy |
Aug-27-03 11:55 AM |
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well youre missing my point |
Kamika |
Aug-27-03 11:54 AM |
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No, you're missing MY point |
monkeyboy |
Aug-27-03 11:58 AM |
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Historical or not, they don't belong in a public building. |
LibertyChick |
Aug-27-03 12:10 PM |
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That was not the intent of the display |
Az |
Aug-27-03 12:28 PM |
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That's where you're wrong |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 03:57 PM |
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What a leap |
HFishbine |
Aug-27-03 04:25 PM |
#144 |
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Couple of things |
a_random_joel |
Aug-27-03 11:47 AM |
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Well said!!! |
schrodinger_I |
Aug-27-03 11:49 AM |
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Just a minor point |
rock |
Aug-27-03 12:16 PM |
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Laws of Hammurabi are the origination of civilized law written in 1750 BC, |
radwriter0555 |
Aug-27-03 11:48 AM |
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Well it was their municipal code. |
Clete |
Aug-27-03 11:52 AM |
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Kill, Steal, Perjury |
ComerPerro |
Aug-27-03 11:49 AM |
#10 |
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I don't count lying |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 11:58 AM |
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Thats how I meant to refer to it |
ComerPerro |
Aug-27-03 01:21 PM |
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Funny... |
RobertSeattle |
Aug-27-03 12:01 PM |
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I will have you know that the God of Alablama |
ComerPerro |
Aug-27-03 01:18 PM |
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Twice now... |
DarkPhenyx |
Aug-27-03 12:49 PM |
#60 |
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I love that George Carlin bit |
ComerPerro |
Aug-27-03 01:38 PM |
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I think it is in all 50 states. |
DarkPhenyx |
Aug-27-03 01:46 PM |
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Im not clear on that one |
ComerPerro |
Aug-27-03 01:59 PM |
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It's one of those things... |
DarkPhenyx |
Aug-27-03 02:09 PM |
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God doesn't like it when |
Virginian |
Aug-27-03 04:34 PM |
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It would be fine if the 10Cs were in there with |
eyesroll |
Aug-27-03 11:49 AM |
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I'll tell you why thery were bad |
DuctapeFatwa |
Aug-27-03 11:50 AM |
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Sweetie, the ten commandments are part of the Torah. |
aquart |
Aug-27-03 12:14 PM |
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I know that and you know that, but do Alabama fundies know that? |
DuctapeFatwa |
Aug-27-03 12:23 PM |
#54 |
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1. It was an act of pure vandalism.... |
liberal_veteran |
Aug-27-03 11:50 AM |
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Gawd damn right |
monkeyboy |
Aug-27-03 12:00 PM |
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We have laws about worshipping false gods? |
vi5 |
Aug-27-03 11:51 AM |
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"Thou shall not feed the poor, |
edward |
Aug-27-03 12:10 PM |
#48 |
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Sorry but do some research before saying something patently false |
Caution |
Aug-27-03 11:51 AM |
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When countries are governed by religious law, burnings, hangings |
Aristus |
Aug-27-03 11:52 AM |
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BULLSHIT!!!! |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 11:54 AM |
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Western legal theory owes as much to Hammurabi as to Moses |
dpbrown |
Aug-27-03 11:55 AM |
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With all respect for Kamika |
HereSince1628 |
Aug-27-03 11:56 AM |
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Because the foyer of the Supreme Court |
dsc |
Aug-27-03 11:56 AM |
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Where did those 10 commandments come from? |
BurtWorm |
Aug-27-03 11:57 AM |
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And the Code of Hammurabi is posted in the SCOTUS |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 12:00 PM |
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This is exactly what the people on the steps are saying. |
Ripley |
Aug-27-03 12:01 PM |
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Weakening of Chritianity? |
hexola |
Aug-27-03 12:01 PM |
#33 |
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Well said |
Uzybone |
Aug-27-03 05:28 PM |
#175 |
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That's a great point. |
screembloodymurder |
Aug-28-03 01:08 AM |
#196 |
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Is it okay if I chisel hieroglyphs of Osiris and Isis on public property? |
liberal_veteran |
Aug-27-03 12:02 PM |
#35 |
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Speaking of Egypt |
Mairead |
Aug-27-03 01:39 PM |
#86 |
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Our laws did not "originate" from the ten commandments. |
aquart |
Aug-27-03 12:02 PM |
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More pure hypocracy than homage |
party_line |
Aug-27-03 12:02 PM |
#38 |
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right wing zealots |
sujan |
Aug-27-03 12:03 PM |
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If people didn't covet their neighbors' possessions, the economy would... |
jchild |
Aug-27-03 12:04 PM |
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Good point, Capitalism depends on Coveting |
dpbrown |
Aug-27-03 12:10 PM |
#46 |
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The basis of our laws, perhaps, but not of our government |
rocknation |
Aug-27-03 12:04 PM |
#41 |
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Lets examine some of the problems with this notion |
Az |
Aug-27-03 12:05 PM |
#42 |
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"god ordered the death of a man for picking up sticks on the sabbath" |
Bandit |
Aug-27-03 12:36 PM |
#57 |
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good catch! |
ima_sinnic |
Aug-27-03 12:50 PM |
#61 |
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Actually... |
atreides1 |
Aug-27-03 12:07 PM |
#43 |
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Because 7 out of the 10 commandments are not |
mandyky |
Aug-27-03 12:08 PM |
#44 |
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ah, the "basis of our laws" lie.... |
arcane1 |
Aug-27-03 12:09 PM |
#45 |
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Nothing wrong with the 10C... |
Zolok |
Aug-27-03 12:11 PM |
#49 |
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In fact I do know where much of it came from. |
DarkPhenyx |
Aug-27-03 12:14 PM |
#51 |
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The problem is Hypocrisy |
makeanoise |
Aug-27-03 12:22 PM |
#53 |
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Kamika, Posting Them Gives a False Picture of Our Founding Fathers |
ribofunk |
Aug-27-03 12:30 PM |
#56 |
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I can not understand why smart people still believe this deist lie |
ChesWickatWork |
Aug-27-03 12:43 PM |
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that doesn't mean they are Christians, either |
arcane1 |
Aug-27-03 01:00 PM |
#68 |
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The Deist Thing is Absolutely True |
ribofunk |
Aug-27-03 03:20 PM |
#99 |
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The ten commandments were not a basis of our laws. |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-27-03 12:43 PM |
#58 |
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Why hasn't anyone mentioned the Napoleonic Code? |
Wwagsthedog |
Aug-27-03 12:52 PM |
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If people didn't like it they could have walked past it |
corarose |
Aug-27-03 12:53 PM |
#63 |
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Satan |
ezmojason |
Aug-27-03 12:56 PM |
#65 |
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Only if you put it up in his son's hometown |
AntiCoup2k |
Aug-27-03 06:12 PM |
#187 |
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If I had a religion it would be one of the pagan ones. |
Clete |
Aug-27-03 01:16 PM |
#73 |
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I would prefer a statue of The Goddess and The God engaged in the sex act |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 01:29 PM |
#80 |
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"Love it or leave it." |
edward |
Aug-27-03 01:25 PM |
#77 |
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Moore refused to do that |
sandnsea |
Aug-27-03 01:26 PM |
#79 |
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Five Precepts |
Kusala |
Aug-27-03 12:56 PM |
#64 |
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thou shalt have no other God's before me? |
StandWatie |
Aug-27-03 12:56 PM |
#66 |
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OK! Challenge Accepted! |
mikeytherat |
Aug-27-03 01:00 PM |
#67 |
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Laws come from society period |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-27-03 01:05 PM |
#71 |
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lol |
sujan |
Aug-27-03 01:12 PM |
#72 |
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The 10C can stay if I can put this statue beside it.... |
liberal_veteran |
Aug-27-03 01:22 PM |
#76 |
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Yea that one too. |
ezmojason |
Aug-27-03 01:32 PM |
#81 |
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I want a statue of a male and female engaged in the sex act |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 01:35 PM |
#83 |
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kamasutra |
sujan |
Aug-27-03 01:38 PM |
#85 |
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The HECK with statues. I want performance art! |
Kanzeon |
Aug-27-03 02:00 PM |
#90 |
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Simulated safe sex acts are so passe' |
Walt Starr |
Aug-27-03 03:53 PM |
#115 |
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Here ya go! |
Clete |
Aug-27-03 04:00 PM |
#117 |
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I like that statue! |
DarkPhenyx |
Aug-27-03 02:12 PM |
#94 |
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You can buy one here..... |
liberal_veteran |
Aug-27-03 05:21 PM |
#172 |
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Like the site. |
Clete |
Aug-27-03 05:32 PM |
#177 |
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and this one (if the mods allow it) |
Uzybone |
Aug-27-03 05:36 PM |
#178 |
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I can't believe you haven't been reading about this. |
Kanzeon |
Aug-27-03 01:58 PM |
#88 |
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That wasn't the purpose of the monument in AL |
donco6 |
Aug-27-03 02:03 PM |
#91 |
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Please see post #67 |
mikeytherat |
Aug-27-03 02:08 PM |
#92 |
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NO they DID NOT originate with the 10 c's. |
Tyler Durden |
Aug-27-03 02:32 PM |
#97 |
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I waited all the way to the end to see if anyone would go to |
Solomon |
Aug-28-03 12:43 AM |
#195 |
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Some of our laws derive from English Law too, but |
SoCalDem |
Aug-27-03 03:25 PM |
#101 |
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Anyone |
K-W |
Aug-27-03 03:27 PM |
#103 |
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Are they the basis of our law? |
zeemike |
Aug-27-03 03:44 PM |
#110 |
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Every society has religious dogma designed to prevent it from collapsing |
SaveABug |
Aug-27-03 03:46 PM |
#111 |
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This poster has been tombstoned |
goobergunch |
Aug-27-03 03:46 PM |
#112 |
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I can't say I wish her/him to rest in peace. |
BurtWorm |
Aug-27-03 04:14 PM |
#126 |
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I'm guessing a younger individual |
SaveABug |
Aug-27-03 04:17 PM |
#129 |
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Don't hang there too long, SaveaBug. |
BurtWorm |
Aug-27-03 04:22 PM |
#141 |
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yeah |
Kamika |
Aug-29-03 12:27 PM |
#202 |
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yeah |
Kamika |
Aug-29-03 12:27 PM |
#203 |
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Because Americans are coveters and idolators |
mandyky |
Aug-27-03 04:48 PM |
#167 |
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totally disagree |
Uzybone |
Aug-27-03 05:21 PM |
#173 |
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I usually stay off of threads |
pbl |
Aug-27-03 05:22 PM |
#174 |
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Nothing "bad" about the ten commandments - you miss the point |
Booberdawg |
Aug-27-03 06:21 PM |
#189 |
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The government shall not favor one religion over another |
rustydog |
Aug-27-03 06:24 PM |
#190 |
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God is in the heart and soul, not in a chunk of granite |
Section_43 |
Aug-28-03 01:15 AM |
#197 |
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You're full of it. |
Ein |
Aug-28-03 01:18 AM |
#198 |
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The Supreme Court Priority System |
Einstein |
Aug-29-03 01:10 AM |
#199 |
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There's only two commandments that are laws |
janekat |
Aug-29-03 01:35 AM |
#201 |
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