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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #63
86. Shang0
My position has never changed. What I am stating is fact Patriot Act, War, Homeland gestapo. Did Kerry vote no on these? If so please direct me to the appropriate spot. I only dissent with Kerry on 3 votes. Nothing more nothing less. But this stance applies to any Republican or Democrat that voted for them. How can I make myself any clearer. ANYONE that voted for those three acts crossed my line in the sand. Calling John Kerry an Enabler is absolutely truth. John Kerry helped to enabled Bush to wage war. Kerry enabled BFEE in the guise of John Ashcroft to abuse our rights. Voted on a bill he admitted he didn't read. And finally, he enabled the BFEE to create the biggest "domestic security" apparatus since the NGVD and the KGB. Which is designed to keep them secure from you. Now where in there am I "sloganeering"? Looks to me like I am stating fat.

Then tells us to "get over it". (words the Republicans used re 2000). Then says he does not support gay marriage. This is particularly egregious to me as I am gay, and that issue hits home. So tell me again why I should vote for him in the primary? Come up with a slogan I can sink my teeth into. Here are a few but they will ring hollow.

John Kerry President Defender of liberty. ooops nope not that one

John Kerry "Peace is first"


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  -Prediction: Kerry drops out soon jeter  Aug-27-03 09:43 AM   #0 
  - And I say you couldn't be more wrong  clar   Aug-27-03 09:48 AM   #1 
  - Can't buy love  Bandit   Aug-27-03 09:55 AM   #8 
  - yep, Dean's a cult leader, Kerry a politician  WhoCountsTheVotes   Aug-27-03 10:03 AM   #15 
     - Just like Charles Manson's family ...  meegbear   Aug-27-03 10:10 AM   #18 
     - NASTY  CWebster   Aug-27-03 10:23 AM   #23 
     - Bad Bear, bad!  ronnykmarshall   Aug-27-03 11:07 AM   #39 
     - I have to ask  Nederland   Aug-27-03 11:34 AM   #54 
        - Click the link and find out.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-27-03 03:19 PM   #142 
     - waaaahhhhhhhhh.....  deseo   Aug-27-03 11:33 AM   #53 
     - that is so far out of line  salin   Aug-27-03 11:51 AM   #66 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-27-03 12:33 PM   #85 
     - One thing about it, we will all see in the near future who has the peoples  Bandit   Aug-27-03 10:11 AM   #19 
     - You and Meeg and the rest of you Dean bashers can keep on doing  khephra   Aug-27-03 10:30 AM   #27 
     - just trying to keep up with the increasingly hostile Dean campaign  WhoCountsTheVotes   Aug-27-03 10:36 AM   #32 
        - LOL  khephra   Aug-27-03 10:38 AM   #33 
        - not you personally khephra  WhoCountsTheVotes   Aug-27-03 11:18 AM   #48 
           - Can you please point out the post where Dean supporters  TLM   Aug-27-03 12:13 PM   #76 
        - Rare time I disagree w/ you- Keph has ALWAYS been fair! From day ONE  Tinoire   Aug-27-03 11:01 AM   #37 
        - Now I'll admit I was bad to Lieberman up until a few weeks ago  khephra   Aug-27-03 11:17 AM   #46 
        - Actually, I shouldn't have responded to you  khephra   Aug-27-03 11:42 AM   #58 
           - I don't really think Dean is a cult leader  WhoCountsTheVotes   Aug-27-03 11:50 AM   #62 
              - You're not even on my list of people I think are over-the-line  khephra   Aug-27-03 11:51 AM   #65 
              - I agree to some extent  JVS   Aug-27-03 12:43 PM   #93 
     - Who won the Wellstone award?  TLM   Aug-27-03 12:10 PM   #74 
        - well I don't know about why Kerry is 20 points behind Dean  WhoCountsTheVotes   Aug-27-03 12:25 PM   #80 
        - Kerry is behind because his lips are planted on W's ass  TLM   Aug-27-03 12:42 PM   #92 
           - yes, that's what I said, notice how it's different than what you said  WhoCountsTheVotes   Aug-27-03 01:13 PM   #106 
        - Read his sig tag  JVS   Aug-27-03 12:45 PM   #94 
  - I am with you. I do not know why he is not doing better but it is early.  izzie   Aug-27-03 10:27 AM   #26 
  - I tend to agree with you.  Dhalgren   Aug-27-03 10:36 AM   #31 
  - Nope  wtmusic   Aug-27-03 09:48 AM   #2 
  - Isn't he...  graham67   Aug-27-03 09:49 AM   #3 
  - No way...  onehandle   Aug-27-03 09:50 AM   #4 
  - *Yawn*  sangh0   Aug-27-03 09:51 AM   #5 
  - If he does, that would be dumb  gratuitous   Aug-27-03 09:53 AM   #6 
  - Oh, not EVEN!  Le Taz Hot   Aug-27-03 09:54 AM   #7 
  - No, no, no, silly...  Robb   Aug-27-03 09:55 AM   #9 
  - Kerry has yet begun to fight.  Octafish   Aug-27-03 09:56 AM   #10 
  - used to be a Kerry fan,  stoptheinsandity   Aug-27-03 10:01 AM   #14 
  - Gee. Kerry's got an 18-year Senate record as a Liberal Democrat.  Octafish   Aug-27-03 10:23 AM   #22 
     - with all due appreciation, DUfriend Octafish  stoptheinsandity   Aug-27-03 10:35 AM   #30 
     - What a cool picture. Sure does beat Georgie down on the pig farm.  CalamityJane   Aug-27-03 11:13 AM   #42 
  - Yes, but this is why the BFEE is desperate for Kerry to lose  blm   Aug-27-03 10:04 AM   #16 
  - blm...Kerry has had his chance to sing for quite some time  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-27-03 10:22 AM   #21 
  - Baloney. This is all connecting NOW to 9-11 and  blm   Aug-27-03 11:15 AM   #45 
     - My patriotism is AGAINST the BFEE.  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-27-03 11:17 AM   #47 
     - I suspected you weren't being honest  sangh0   Aug-27-03 11:50 AM   #63 
     - Shang0  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-27-03 12:33 PM   #86 
        - So what?  sangh0   Aug-27-03 01:15 PM   #108 
           - My tone has changed.  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-27-03 05:38 PM   #143 
     - Then why do you blame Kerry  blm   Aug-27-03 12:01 PM   #72 
        - This is not about BCCI...  TLM   Aug-27-03 12:35 PM   #88 
           - You're talking shit and you know it.  blm   Aug-27-03 02:18 PM   #127 
              - TLM only knows shit  sangh0   Aug-27-03 02:34 PM   #135 
     - better yet - he has the pieces to connect what is going on now  salin   Aug-27-03 12:19 PM   #77 
     - Kerry voted for what is happening in Iraq...  TLM   Aug-27-03 12:33 PM   #84 
  - Jerry Nachman is endsoring Dean and for the life of me  molly   Aug-27-03 10:55 AM   #36 
  - Because they are whores... they go where the money is.  TLM   Aug-27-03 12:38 PM   #90 
  - Nachman's offers a "flea vote" to give himself "liberal creds" after  oasis   Aug-27-03 02:43 PM   #138 
  - Kerry  Parche   Aug-27-03 12:26 PM   #81 
  - He has not yet begun to fight... that's the problem.  TLM   Aug-27-03 12:46 PM   #95 
  - What's stopping Kerry? If he knows all this stuff about the BFEE  TLM   Aug-27-03 12:28 PM   #82 
     - Duh...Dean gets all the attention now  blm   Aug-27-03 02:24 PM   #129 
        - Why did he hire New World Order types for his campaing?  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-27-03 05:42 PM   #144 
           - So Gore's people are NWO?  blm   Aug-27-03 05:46 PM   #146 
              - No Kery's people are NWO  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-27-03 06:33 PM   #157 
                 - Order...not BFEE imperialism.  blm   Aug-27-03 08:41 PM   #169 
  - Kerry's investigation was shades of the warren commission...  TLM   Aug-27-03 12:20 PM   #78 
  - In your dreams.....  Punkingal   Aug-27-03 09:58 AM   #11 
  - Why? Beacuse the CORPORATE MEDIA WANT HIM TO?  blm   Aug-27-03 09:58 AM   #12 
  - No...I'd like to see him drop out as well  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-27-03 10:31 AM   #28 
  - You keep saying this but the facts don't support you.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-27-03 10:31 AM   #29 
  - Dean doesn't HAVE to spend more money.  blm   Aug-27-03 11:12 AM   #41 
     - Have you READ anything they've been saying about him  indigo32   Aug-27-03 11:14 AM   #43 
     - Let's see...only since early 2002.  blm   Aug-27-03 12:05 PM   #73 
        - Bull BLM...  TLM   Aug-27-03 01:07 PM   #105 
           - Couldn't have said it better TLM  indigo32   Aug-27-03 01:22 PM   #114 
           - BULL. The media KNEW that antiwar was popular  blm   Aug-27-03 02:16 PM   #125 
              - Don't make me laugh  indigo32   Aug-27-03 02:33 PM   #134 
              - BEFORE the war...  blm   Aug-27-03 05:53 PM   #149 
                 - I think it's great  indigo32   Aug-27-03 06:28 PM   #155 
                    - Howard Fineman.  blm   Aug-27-03 08:43 PM   #170 
              - Poll data..........Read it and weep:  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-27-03 03:14 PM   #141 
                 - I'm talking about back in the fall and  blm   Aug-27-03 05:50 PM   #147 
                    - The big protests were in February.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-27-03 08:20 PM   #167 
                       - The media started focusing on Dean then, yet  blm   Aug-27-03 08:55 PM   #171 
     - Who should the press cover?  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-27-03 11:49 AM   #61 
     - Early on, Kucinich and Dean were in similar positions,  blm   Aug-27-03 12:10 PM   #75 
        - Has Dean done anything right, in your opinion?  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-27-03 12:28 PM   #83 
        - yep exactly right  WhoCountsTheVotes   Aug-27-03 12:35 PM   #89 
           - No one is arguing that Dean is to the left of Kucinich.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-27-03 12:53 PM   #98 
              - Didn't you read the thread... those 30,000 people  TLM   Aug-27-03 01:21 PM   #113 
                 - That explains why all the pictures I took in Seattle look like this:  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-27-03 01:32 PM   #118 
                 - I take one exception.  Sterling   Aug-27-03 07:20 PM   #162 
     - THat is such sour grapes BLM....  TLM   Aug-27-03 12:56 PM   #101 
        - The Grasshopper and the Ant.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-27-03 08:32 PM   #168 
  - Roger,that! Apparently there are a plethora of posters who haven't  GalleryGod   Aug-27-03 11:39 AM   #57 
  - WHat's he waiting for?  TLM   Aug-27-03 12:49 PM   #97 
  - Funny, Carville disagrees with you.  blm   Aug-27-03 02:30 PM   #131 
     - blm he cannot have it both ways.  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-27-03 06:56 PM   #161 
        - That's GOP spin.  blm   Aug-27-03 09:01 PM   #172 
           - Is Kerry pushing for an investigation?  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-28-03 12:11 AM   #173 
  - You have gone off the deep end with the corporate media conspiracy stuff.  poskonig   Aug-27-03 05:53 PM   #148 
     - Mediawhores reported that DEMOCRATS called him that.  blm   Aug-27-03 05:59 PM   #151 
  - Your post discredits whoever you are supporting  roughsatori   Aug-27-03 10:00 AM   #13 
  - Don;t you have to enter the race first  TLM   Aug-27-03 01:24 PM   #116 
     - I agree with you  roughsatori   Aug-27-03 02:39 PM   #137 
  - kerry isn't only about the military  JI7   Aug-27-03 10:09 AM   #17 
  - This is great news!  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-27-03 10:20 AM   #20 
  - I don't take sides...  newyorican   Aug-27-03 10:24 AM   #24 
  - Kerry is formally announcing next week....  Zolok   Aug-27-03 10:25 AM   #25 
  - ROFLMAO!!!!  molly   Aug-27-03 10:45 AM   #34 
  - I'd love to see it, but I don't think so.  bandera   Aug-27-03 10:46 AM   #35 
  - I highly doubt this  MaineDem   Aug-27-03 11:05 AM   #38 
  - LOL  indigo32   Aug-27-03 11:09 AM   #40 
  - I wouldn't bet on that scenario  ibegurpard   Aug-27-03 11:15 AM   #44 
  - I Just Want To Give Kerry His Props  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-27-03 11:19 AM   #49 
  - One bad vote doesn't define an entire man's career.  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-27-03 11:20 AM   #50 
     - I'm Not A Kerry Supporter  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-27-03 11:28 AM   #51 
        - Yes but on the same hand  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-27-03 11:36 AM   #56 
           - You let Dean be for patriot act  blm   Aug-27-03 12:24 PM   #79 
              - THE PATRIOT ACT PASSED 98-1  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-27-03 01:13 PM   #107 
              - Your absolutely right  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-27-03 05:44 PM   #145 
              - More BLM-BS.  TLM   Aug-27-03 01:41 PM   #121 
                 - yeah, Dean's always against the bad parts!  WhoCountsTheVotes   Aug-27-03 02:22 PM   #128 
  - my prediction: he'll shake up his campaign team  dfong63   Aug-27-03 11:31 AM   #52 
  - Bob Shrum' s Track Record  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-27-03 11:35 AM   #55 
  - Thoughts on Kerry....  deseo   Aug-27-03 11:48 AM   #59 
  - Gunga Dean...  Zolok   Aug-27-03 11:49 AM   #60 
  - Kerry has much more  salin   Aug-27-03 11:50 AM   #64 
  - Kerry's not going to drop out anytime soon  GreenArrow   Aug-27-03 11:53 AM   #67 
  - My guess is  Yupster   Aug-27-03 11:56 AM   #68 
  - god i hope not....i was hoping that holy joe would tho  ElsewheresDaughter   Aug-27-03 11:56 AM   #69 
  - No he has no reason to drop out  CMT   Aug-27-03 11:58 AM   #70 
  - BTW - why would someone in Canada care to start a flamewar?  molly   Aug-27-03 11:59 AM   #71 
  - Canadians for Clark - As sweet as maple syrup  Tinoire   Aug-27-03 12:47 PM   #96 
     - What possible interest would they have ?  molly   Aug-27-03 01:38 PM   #119 
        - Can't be the Health Care :) n/t  Tinoire   Aug-27-03 02:10 PM   #123 
  - Didn't Pres. Clinton lose in New Hampshire?  XanthaS   Aug-27-03 12:34 PM   #87 
  - Clinton, Papa Bush, Baby Bush , and Walter Mondale  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-27-03 01:17 PM   #110 
  - You're right - I forgot about that!  molly   Aug-27-03 01:39 PM   #120 
  - What a surpise, Jeter...a candidate bashing thread.  tom_paine   Aug-27-03 12:38 PM   #91 
  - I'm sick of people who start these threads all the time  XanthaS   Aug-27-03 12:54 PM   #99 
     - How well do we truly know anyone who posts here?  tom_paine   Aug-27-03 01:20 PM   #112 
  - I will bet you $100.00 dollars that Kerry is our next President  corarose   Aug-27-03 12:54 PM   #100 
  - Done  Nederland   Aug-27-03 12:58 PM   #102 
  - Beat me to it.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-27-03 01:19 PM   #111 
  - There's this nice bridge in Brooklyn you might be  bandera   Aug-27-03 01:17 PM   #109 
  - Yeah but he's one of our own- even most of the die-hards like me  Tinoire   Aug-27-03 02:16 PM   #124 
     - You mean how he jumped aboard chimp's bandwagon?  CWebster   Aug-27-03 02:32 PM   #133 
     - Oh don't worry  indigo32   Aug-27-03 06:19 PM   #153 
     - Do you have your glasses on girl  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-27-03 06:44 PM   #158 
     - Well, I have overlooked the appeal of being cute and  bandera   Aug-27-03 07:35 PM   #163 
  - ummm I'll take that $100  indigo32   Aug-27-03 01:23 PM   #115 
  - Dumbest. Thread. Ever.  WilliamPitt   Aug-27-03 01:00 PM   #103 
  - Lol You haven't seen anything.Try being up at 3 AM for the real gems  Tinoire   Aug-27-03 02:17 PM   #126 
  - OMG - 3am - that's almost the time I get up in the morning!  molly   Aug-27-03 02:26 PM   #130 
     - Yikes and that when I go to bed!  Tinoire   Aug-27-03 02:32 PM   #132 
  - You've missed a lot worse while you were on the road  khephra   Aug-27-03 03:13 PM   #140 
  - Not until after New Hampshire  jos   Aug-27-03 01:05 PM   #104 
  - Health issues?  CWebster   Aug-27-03 01:25 PM   #117 
  - Of course Kerry isn't dropping out  Adjoran   Aug-27-03 01:45 PM   #122 
  - Nobody is dropping out before the first caucus  JackSwift   Aug-27-03 02:38 PM   #136 
  - "There's a long time for all of them to keep bashing Bush."  indigo32   Aug-27-03 06:49 PM   #159 
  - No quitter, Kerry is a 21st century gladiator, you gotta beat him to win.  oasis   Aug-27-03 02:58 PM   #139 
  - Kerry will drop out after he loses NH.  poskonig   Aug-27-03 05:55 PM   #150 
  - More obnoxious Dean bashing  molly   Aug-27-03 06:54 PM   #160 
     - You're just mad because your candidate is getting stomped.  poskonig   Aug-27-03 08:01 PM   #164 
  - more stupid Dem bashing  Uzybone   Aug-27-03 06:12 PM   #152 
  - let's stick together and unite....  janekat   Aug-27-03 06:29 PM   #156 
  - He comes off as too intelligent....  janekat   Aug-27-03 06:24 PM   #154 
  - Kerry in my opinion is the front runner  Hippo_Tron   Aug-27-03 08:11 PM   #165 
  - I wouldn't get in the prognostication  quinnox   Aug-27-03 08:17 PM   #166 
 

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