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Sat Sep-04-04 02:29 PM
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| 83. Increase positive visibility through good acts? |
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Does the grocery store have a significant number of elderly who walk their groceries home? Perhaps you could have scouts nearby to assist.
Try to think of some sort of things to do that would benefit the school, like fundraising for something the school needs, and donating it in the name of the cub pack. (New projector, computer, new encyclopedias for library, etc.)
Maybe there are aids patients in the community who could use some yardwork.
Kill them with kindness and compassion, and be visible doing it.
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| -I am a Cubmaster. The school my Pack draws from has a Gay principal... |
greblc |
Sep-02-04 10:54 PM |
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What kind of cooperation are you looking for? |
proud2Blib |
Sep-02-04 10:55 PM |
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He... |
greblc |
Sep-02-04 11:09 PM |
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I'm with the principal. I would not be happy |
JerseygirlCT |
Sep-03-04 06:24 AM |
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They will change |
Gore1FL |
Sep-06-04 01:12 AM |
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I am a Cubmaster, too! |
Finnfan |
Sep-02-04 10:59 PM |
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I voice My opposition to the Atheist and Gay rulings at every oportunity. |
greblc |
Sep-02-04 11:18 PM |
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I'm sorry to hear that, Finnfan |
Dookus |
Sep-03-04 12:08 AM |
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We've gone around about this before, Dookus. |
Finnfan |
Sep-03-04 12:17 AM |
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I know we have |
Dookus |
Sep-03-04 12:19 AM |
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How many Bigoted Children do you know? |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 12:46 AM |
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I've already expressed my idea - |
Dookus |
Sep-03-04 01:04 AM |
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I would protest by bringing my Jewish and/or Black Friend as Guests. |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 01:29 AM |
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yes |
Dookus |
Sep-03-04 01:36 AM |
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Your forgetting that my Pack has an openly Gay Principal. I think they |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 02:15 AM |
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the principal, as far as I remember scouting |
Dookus |
Sep-03-04 02:19 AM |
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Try this... |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 02:53 AM |
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You're getting angry and defensive |
Dookus |
Sep-03-04 03:02 AM |
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of course I agree with you on principle. |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 10:22 PM |
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Ok, look at it this way |
kgfnally |
Sep-03-04 03:31 AM |
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And I simply disagree |
Dookus |
Sep-03-04 04:15 AM |
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Your comparison villanizes Scouting. |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 10:53 PM |
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I would say it's only ok |
kgfnally |
Sep-04-04 01:19 AM |
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the Cubs don't have any issues of the sort. So it's not really. |
greblc |
Sep-04-04 01:55 AM |
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I completely agree w/ you |
enigmatic |
Sep-06-04 01:14 AM |
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Thank you. |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 10:45 PM |
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You're welcome. |
kgfnally |
Sep-04-04 01:15 AM |
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Thanks Again. |
greblc |
Sep-04-04 02:34 AM |
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Walking away is easy... |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 01:02 AM |
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Why should the BSA change their policy |
Dookus |
Sep-03-04 01:07 AM |
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The problem isn't the Scouts it's the Leadership. |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 01:45 AM |
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and that proves my point |
Dookus |
Sep-03-04 01:51 AM |
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My son wanted to join Cub Scouts, |
Oregonian |
Sep-03-04 11:45 PM |
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I'd like to hear more. |
greblc |
Sep-04-04 12:16 AM |
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Here's what we did: |
Oregonian |
Sep-04-04 12:11 PM |
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Maybe the 'National Council' should stop using kids as pawns |
CarolynEC |
Sep-02-04 10:59 PM |
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Agreed... |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 12:02 AM |
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get some feedback from the BSA in Petaluma |
mitchtv |
Sep-02-04 11:00 PM |
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My son is an Eagle Scout, but we both think that the Scouts |
murielm99 |
Sep-02-04 11:01 PM |
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We'll Not much about being a Cubmaster is easy. |
greblc |
Sep-02-04 11:27 PM |
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I'm a girlscout leader and we dont refuse anybody |
chimpsrsmarter |
Sep-02-04 11:17 PM |
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I know, the girls have got it right. |
greblc |
Sep-02-04 11:31 PM |
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They can if they want, it's in our charter that we cant refuse any child, |
chimpsrsmarter |
Sep-03-04 12:09 AM |
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Scouting for All |
Luminous Animal |
Sep-02-04 11:28 PM |
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Thanks |
greblc |
Sep-02-04 11:33 PM |
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RE: Thanks |
Luminous Animal |
Sep-02-04 11:49 PM |
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I hope not |
mitchtv |
Sep-03-04 03:35 AM |
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The have relented on the local level |
Gore1FL |
Sep-06-04 01:35 AM |
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Grade Schoolers relent? |
greblc |
Sep-06-04 02:08 AM |
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Other organizations? |
lpricanprynces |
Sep-02-04 11:51 PM |
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Most similar groups involve some Religious Ideolgy. |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 12:10 AM |
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but not all of them do |
Dookus |
Sep-03-04 02:53 AM |
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Good night Dookus |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 02:54 AM |
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Giving up? |
Dookus |
Sep-03-04 03:06 AM |
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I didn't give up It was 3 am. |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 10:41 PM |
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the scouts is a quasi-military organization that rejects gay people... |
JSJ |
Sep-03-04 12:02 AM |
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Nice.... |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 12:08 AM |
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hey word-twister, i said fuck 'em, not 'fuck the children' |
JSJ |
Sep-03-04 12:47 AM |
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No a scout can be "Reverant "in any religion |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 01:18 AM |
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he did not say fuck the children. |
Dookus |
Sep-03-04 01:20 AM |
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He said "fuck em" referring to "the scouts" |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 01:53 AM |
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sorry, that's a stretch |
Dookus |
Sep-03-04 02:11 AM |
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The Kids are part of the organization!!!! so fuck Em' |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 02:32 AM |
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using the kids for cover- for shame n/t |
JSJ |
Sep-03-04 02:34 AM |
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because the policy |
Dookus |
Sep-03-04 02:35 AM |
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How succinct ;a little more blunt than I |
mitchtv |
Sep-03-04 03:42 AM |
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Well not quite |
Gore1FL |
Sep-06-04 01:09 AM |
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I'm sorry |
Dookus |
Sep-03-04 12:05 AM |
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I have thought about bailing... |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 12:34 AM |
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I know |
Dookus |
Sep-03-04 12:43 AM |
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Try communication one on one with the Principal |
The_Casual_Observer |
Sep-03-04 01:01 AM |
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Sorry... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Sep-03-04 01:44 AM |
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Beat me to it |
eridani |
Sep-03-04 03:59 AM |
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Sorry, but until BSA changes it's horrid policy on gays, then -m |
JerseygirlCT |
Sep-03-04 06:21 AM |
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Maybe so but I think I will have more success... |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 11:15 PM |
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HomoPhobes in Scouting. |
Bob Hannah |
Sep-06-04 08:32 PM |
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There are a couple of ways: |
LWolf |
Sep-03-04 07:14 AM |
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Thanks, |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 11:17 PM |
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Quit BSA and move the whole pack over to Campfire Boys & Girls |
truthspeaker |
Sep-03-04 07:36 AM |
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I'll honestly look into it. |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 11:22 PM |
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I was a Cub Scout den leader |
Quahog |
Sep-03-04 07:43 AM |
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Wow! |
greblc |
Sep-03-04 11:51 PM |
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I Have Spoken To City Councils To Divert Funding Away From Scouts |
David Zephyr |
Sep-03-04 10:53 PM |
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I see your point. It's too bad it has come to this. |
greblc |
Sep-04-04 12:01 AM |
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the grocery store thing |
lwfern |
Sep-03-04 11:49 PM |
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Be warned, I think it's put a stop to all store front solicitations... |
greblc |
Sep-04-04 12:06 AM |
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about the sidewalk |
kgfnally |
Sep-04-04 01:20 AM |
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I think you could legaly set up on the sidewalk but... |
greblc |
Sep-04-04 01:51 AM |
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As a bi den leader and (possible) soon to be Cubmaster |
Xithras |
Sep-04-04 01:17 PM |
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Thanks! |
greblc |
Sep-06-04 12:03 AM |
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Increase positive visibility through good acts? |
Truth is True |
Sep-04-04 02:29 PM |
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Thanks! |
greblc |
Sep-06-04 12:05 AM |
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Until the national group changes their ways |
missb |
Sep-04-04 02:37 PM |
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Thanks! |
greblc |
Sep-06-04 12:08 AM |
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I'm sorry, It is a hate group. |
markus |
Sep-04-04 02:47 PM |
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I disagree. |
greblc |
Sep-06-04 12:14 AM |
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It is more of a group headed by haters |
Gore1FL |
Sep-06-04 01:20 AM |
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Stay out of the schools!!!!! |
K-W |
Sep-06-04 12:13 AM |
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A Scout is Reverant.... |
greblc |
Sep-06-04 12:38 AM |
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Interestnigly |
Gore1FL |
Sep-06-04 01:18 AM |
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Yah, im sure by the word God they clearly mean any higher power. |
K-W |
Sep-06-04 08:23 PM |
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Sorry but... |
greblc |
Sep-06-04 09:16 PM |
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Affiliate with Scouts Canada instead... |
SidDithers |
Sep-06-04 12:44 AM |
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Can American Scouts Join Boy Scouts of Canada? |
greblc |
Sep-06-04 01:31 AM |
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I am an Asst Scoutmaster |
Gore1FL |
Sep-06-04 01:05 AM |
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Thanks... |
greblc |
Sep-06-04 01:32 AM |
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Start a Gay Cub Scout Pack - that will get his attention |
Cronus |
Sep-06-04 01:25 AM |
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There is no reason why scouts can't be gay |
I_Hug_Trees |
Sep-06-04 03:14 PM |
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True |
greblc |
Sep-06-04 07:42 PM |
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You need to kick ass within the Boy Scout leadership |
leesa |
Sep-06-04 07:57 PM |
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I'm trying. |
greblc |
Sep-06-04 09:14 PM |
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Get your kids involved in another organization |
kayell |
Sep-06-04 08:07 PM |
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Thanks |
greblc |
Sep-06-04 09:18 PM |
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even if your local group doesn't discriminate |
lwfern |
Sep-06-04 08:27 PM |
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Your right. |
greblc |
Sep-06-04 09:22 PM |
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