Reply #59: Maybe your friend has caught wind of Peak Oil...

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I attached to your message because its the first to mention Peak Oil, but the response is to the original post...sorry for any confusion </edit>

Everybody is here is extrapolating what the guy said w/his religiosity and assuming he refers to the Rapture, but based on what you said he said it could just as well be something else he refers to.

I am completely atheist, and I also doubt that very many of us are going to still be alive in 10 years. But that is because I know that we've hit Peak Oil (or very soon will) and from that point forward, all bets are off as to who is going to get to live and who is going to have to die.

Especially doomed are we liberals, since the fundies are obviously taking over our country, and there's not enough of us, nor are we organized enough, to stop them at this point. Once the energy crisis really gets brutal, and the common folk start to rebel outside the walls of the compounds of the Rich, they will simply round up and slaughter every liberal they can get their hands on, just like the n@zi's did in WWII.

* himself may be all caught up in the biblical/revelations prophecy BS, but the power-brokers that back him are obviously just leveraging his idiocy to put themselves in a position to arrange 'things' so that when the massive die-off (due to the inevitable return of the population to the planets natural carrying capacity), the RICH FUNDIES are going to be the ones who get to live.

I mean, when I say 'it's obvious', I literally mean that I have been watching the entire bush administration from day one w/this idea in mind, and EVERYTHING they've done has been 100% consistent with my supposition. These guys know peak oil is real, it's here, it's now, and it's eventually gonna bring war, famine, draught, disease, pestilence, death and disaster on a scale we cannot possibly fathom in our wildest dreams. And they've been taking steps for many years now to make sure that their money and their unity as 'christian' will allow THEM to be the ones that both survive, and hold all the power.

I do not consider 'life after retirement' (I'm mid-30's) as being of any concern whatsoever anymore. I figure Gaia has resources to provide for a life worth living for at MOST another 7-10 years, so beyond that, I do not plan whatsoever. The Peak Oil wars have already begun, 1 million plus barrels a day are already lost to depletion, and that rate is accelerating, probably geometrically.

A planet-wide, massive die-off of the human population is a foregone conclusion at this point, because we're dealing w/natural LAWS here. This oil we now use to sustain life is the product of the storage of the energy of sunlight striking the planet for MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of years, and we're using it all up in just over 100 years with our single-minded pursuit of profit and luxury. There are literally NO forces now in existence that will deter our world from the most rapid possible exploitation of this resource, and people who even point out the trouble we're headed for are labeled 'lunatics' by the people who don't want their little parties to ever end, nor even be told that they *might have to end*.

So, your friend is right, IMHO, even if he's reached the conclusion by different means than I. In a nutshell, we are completely f**ked at this point. We should've done something about this inevitability about 100 years ago. The 'draconian' population and conservation measures we could have taken are going to look like a walk in the park compared to the unmitigated, horrific disaster that now stares us in the face...