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The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the subject's sensitivity, said the FBI also is investigating the same official's contacts with Iraqi exile leader Ahmad Chalabi and with Manucher Ghorbanifar, a controversial Iranian arms dealer. Chalabi was a source of much of the discredited pre-Iraq war intelligence about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and ties to al-Qaida. In June, U.S. intelligence officials said they had evidence that Chalabi's security chief had long been a paid agent of Iran's intelligence service and that Chalabi or an aide in his Iraqi National Congress had tipped the Iranians off that the United States had broken some Iranian communications codes. Chalabi has denied the charge. The CIA has twice labeled Ghorbanifar, a figure in the 1980s Iran-Contra scandal, untrustworthy. Nevertheless, two Pentagon officials, Harold Rhode and Larry Franklin, a Defense Intelligence Agency analyst who worked on Iraq policy for Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith, met secretly with Ghorbanifar to discuss Iran. http://www.warandpiece.com/
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| -CONSOLIDATED PENTAGON SPY DATA, THREAD II |
WilliamPitt |
Aug-27-04 10:19 PM |
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AIPAC and neo-cons. |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Aug-27-04 10:23 PM |
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College friend is the Senior Military Analyst at AIPAC |
SaveElmer |
Aug-27-04 10:27 PM |
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It isn't Michael Westfal is it? |
Pachamama |
Aug-28-04 08:54 AM |
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No summary from me, but based on NYT it's Larry Franklin |
Snazzy |
Aug-27-04 10:27 PM |
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So what, don't I get a cookie? |
Snazzy |
Aug-29-04 02:50 AM |
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JMM/Rozen/Glastris Teaser Story is out |
Snazzy |
Aug-29-04 02:57 AM |
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Not a summary, but ..... |
H2O Man |
Aug-27-04 10:27 PM |
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H20...wasn't there a Robert |
shraby |
Aug-27-04 10:41 PM |
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Hey, buddy! |
H2O Man |
Aug-28-04 08:05 AM |
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Immediate news release scotching theory that spy helped drive US to war... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Aug-27-04 10:30 PM |
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If it was a low-level, how and why |
shraby |
Aug-27-04 10:43 PM |
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The best posts from thread one......... |
Joanne98 |
Aug-27-04 10:33 PM |
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HAROLD RHODE and LARRY FRANKLIN went to Paris |
spooked |
Aug-27-04 10:34 PM |
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Michael Ledeen, Harold Rhode, and Ghorbanifar |
starroute |
Aug-27-04 10:58 PM |
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my first thought was Ledeen. |
grasswire |
Aug-28-04 12:19 AM |
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Lyndon LaRouche has alot to say........ |
Joanne98 |
Aug-27-04 10:59 PM |
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I've never read anything from him, but maybe he isn't so crazy after all! |
Pachamama |
Aug-28-04 11:00 AM |
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"Michael Ledeen, Manucher Ghorbanifar" |
TacticalPeak |
Aug-27-04 10:59 PM |
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They said the Italian intelligence created the documents..... |
kentuck |
Aug-27-04 10:47 PM |
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Secret Paris Talks to "antagonize Iran"! Powell complained to Rumsfeld |
spooked |
Aug-27-04 10:47 PM |
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It's Rhode.. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-27-04 10:52 PM |
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WP says it was someone "under Lutti" |
troublemaker |
Aug-27-04 10:53 PM |
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Someone who works under Lutti |
Leilani |
Aug-27-04 11:13 PM |
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About Rhode |
eleny |
Aug-27-04 10:53 PM |
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Was Rhode involved in that Game thing |
Perky |
Aug-27-04 11:00 PM |
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Center for cooperative research connects some dots |
Dover |
Aug-28-04 12:16 AM |
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Notes on Harold Rhode |
Dover |
Aug-28-04 12:31 AM |
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OMG where did you get that chart????????? |
Joanne98 |
Aug-27-04 11:01 PM |
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That chart was from the NY Times |
Stephanie |
Aug-27-04 11:05 PM |
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I've had it on my desktop for a few months. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-27-04 11:14 PM |
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I sent emailed this flow chart to Ray Taliaferro on Feb. 2nd, 2004 |
Swamp_Rat |
Aug-28-04 01:40 AM |
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The Lie Factory - Mother Jones (Kwiatkowski) |
Stephanie |
Aug-27-04 11:08 PM |
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American Enterprise Institute and neocon family ties |
starroute |
Aug-27-04 11:40 PM |
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That's a great chart |
Stevie D |
Aug-28-04 02:39 AM |
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This chart says that Rhode left the Pentagon in mid-2003 |
berry |
Aug-28-04 09:44 PM |
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Chalabi was being paid by SAIC |
Zan_of_Texas |
Aug-29-04 01:22 AM |
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It occurs to me... |
Perky |
Aug-27-04 10:54 PM |
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OSP & It's Isreali Twin- This Bit Says A Lot, IMO: |
cryingshame |
Aug-27-04 11:03 PM |
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The veritable plethora.... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Aug-27-04 11:03 PM |
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Israeli spys sent home |
Dover |
Aug-27-04 11:05 PM |
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Blair visits Italy....... |
Joanne98 |
Aug-27-04 11:06 PM |
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The ABC Nighline Reporter |
SilasSoule |
Aug-27-04 11:11 PM |
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The Washington Post also says mid level |
Leilani |
Aug-27-04 11:20 PM |
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Harold Rhode speaks Farsi |
starroute |
Aug-27-04 11:33 PM |
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Larry Johnston on Oberman |
phish420 |
Aug-27-04 11:13 PM |
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CBC Peter Mansbridge introduced the story just now.... |
TrustingDog |
Aug-27-04 11:17 PM |
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The Evangelicals and Zionism........ (history) |
Joanne98 |
Aug-27-04 11:24 PM |
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Wow Pat Buchanan flabbergahsted |
Must_B_Free |
Aug-27-04 11:27 PM |
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Never forget this......... |
Joanne98 |
Aug-27-04 11:29 PM |
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Israeli Espionage |
Dover |
Aug-27-04 11:30 PM |
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The piece you have quoted... |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Aug-27-04 11:49 PM |
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Israeli Spy Ring |
Joanne98 |
Aug-27-04 11:35 PM |
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Nightline - the person arranged "cleric conferences" for Wolfie n/t |
Stephanie |
Aug-27-04 11:35 PM |
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So where are all the regular Likud apologists screaming anti-semitism???? |
DenverDem |
Aug-27-04 11:51 PM |
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it broke at 3 AM in Israel |
redsoxliberal |
Aug-27-04 11:54 PM |
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Good point. |
DenverDem |
Aug-27-04 11:56 PM |
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Sabbath till Sunset Saturday. |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Aug-28-04 12:09 AM |
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I was going to point that out |
DenverDem |
Aug-28-04 12:50 AM |
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Checking in. |
JohnLocke |
Aug-28-04 01:16 AM |
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Dots? |
zoe |
Aug-27-04 11:58 PM |
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Question: |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Aug-28-04 12:11 AM |
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Chalabi-gate: Hunt in on for Harold Rhode, Michael Rubin and others |
Dover |
Aug-28-04 12:18 AM |
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If this has any accuracy at all... |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Aug-28-04 12:25 AM |
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Why now? |
Stephanie |
Aug-28-04 12:38 AM |
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Good question. |
snippy |
Aug-28-04 08:20 AM |
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Laura Rozen has it on warandpiece.org .... It's Franklin |
hedda_foil |
Aug-28-04 12:28 AM |
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More on Franklin |
Perky |
Aug-28-04 12:45 AM |
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Rozen's article seems to say that it's "politically motivated" against |
KoKo01 |
Aug-28-04 12:46 AM |
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Check her updates - she's not so sure now |
Stephanie |
Aug-28-04 12:51 AM |
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theres now an update III: a source tells her there must be more going on |
faithnotgreed |
Aug-28-04 01:01 AM |
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I was coming to the same conclusion,,, |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Aug-28-04 01:08 PM |
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Inside Rummy's Office (by Jim Gilliam) |
Dover |
Aug-28-04 12:29 AM |
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Defense aide probed as a spy for Israel |
struggle4progress |
Aug-28-04 12:32 AM |
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this looks important |
grasswire |
Aug-28-04 12:36 AM |
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I kind of got the impression... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Aug-28-04 01:12 PM |
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Let's 'attempt' a very crude summary |
redsoxliberal |
Aug-28-04 12:44 AM |
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A modest summary as I understand it so far: |
Hardhead |
Aug-28-04 12:53 AM |
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Remember? |
grasswire |
Aug-28-04 12:57 AM |
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...and 37,000 dead Iraqis and still counting n/t |
meluseth |
Aug-28-04 01:23 AM |
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Nice summary.........but does it go further? |
Dover |
Aug-28-04 01:09 AM |
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talk about 'shadowy groups!' |
jean |
Aug-28-04 01:58 AM |
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Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group (P2OG)" |
realFedUp |
Aug-28-04 11:18 AM |
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CHALABI TIES IN! |
Stephanie |
Aug-28-04 01:14 AM |
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Newsweek - other officials may also have passed other info to Israel |
Stephanie |
Aug-28-04 01:25 AM |
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Some visual references: |
Swamp_Rat |
Aug-28-04 01:52 AM |
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Washington's Chalabi nightmare (Salon) |
Dover |
Aug-28-04 01:57 AM |
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My eyes are crossing from rereadx2 |
RevRussel |
Aug-28-04 04:47 AM |
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kick |
matcom |
Aug-28-04 07:04 AM |
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I can't make sense of the Chalabi-Iran connection |
starroute |
Aug-28-04 07:49 AM |
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Chalabi's loyalties are to Chalabi |
chookie |
Aug-28-04 11:44 AM |
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Arrest could come as early as next week says law enforcement official; |
Algorem |
Aug-28-04 08:05 AM |
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A question for William Pitt: |
H2O Man |
Aug-28-04 11:26 AM |
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Slap my butt and call me Sally! I actually heard an actual newscaster |
MrsGrumpy |
Aug-28-04 11:31 AM |
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Definitely a John Le Carre book |
realFedUp |
Aug-28-04 11:40 AM |
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Could, or should? |
chookie |
Aug-28-04 11:53 AM |
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The word was should. But again, I'm not going to hold my breath. |
MrsGrumpy |
Aug-28-04 11:58 AM |
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kick |
redsoxliberal |
Aug-28-04 12:55 PM |
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Kick |
MrsGrumpy |
Aug-28-04 02:31 PM |
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Harold Rhode |
realFedUp |
Aug-28-04 07:23 PM |
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Probe Widens |
Cush |
Aug-28-04 07:28 PM |
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If there are any "white hats" from the intel... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Aug-28-04 07:33 PM |
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Definitely fumigate |
realFedUp |
Aug-28-04 07:35 PM |
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Amen... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Aug-28-04 07:36 PM |
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More from Laura Rozen (War and Piece blog) |
Dudley_DUright |
Aug-28-04 07:46 PM |
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Suppose all of this was leaked |
shraby |
Aug-28-04 09:51 PM |
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juan cole on the co-opting of AIPAC by right-wingers |
blitzen |
Aug-28-04 08:34 PM |
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what does it all mean? |
redsoxliberal |
Aug-28-04 11:48 PM |
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Iran Contra II ? |
Cush |
Aug-28-04 11:49 PM |
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Breaking from war and piece |
redsoxliberal |
Aug-29-04 12:12 AM |
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Two questions..... |
shraby |
Aug-29-04 05:31 AM |
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BUSH AIDE FACES QUIZ OVER LINKS TO ISRAELI SPY |
shraby |
Aug-29-04 05:44 AM |
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