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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 10:49 PM
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55. They'd need to rig a helluva lot of machines to give Bush CA.
More likely, I suspect, is the fact that a major elected official from the most populous state in the nation is (was) getting out there and saying, wait a minute, these folks have legitimate concerns and we need to make sure the process is trustworthy.

2 weeks ago he appeared with Bev Harris on, what was it, some show on CNBC that was being guest hosted by Howard Dean. It was great, and I thought everyone concerned did a great job, but it wouldn't suprise me if that sort of thing would cause Diebold and Co. to shit an absolute brick.

I suspect he's being targeted or set up in some fashion; but how to prove it?

Just out of curiosity, MacGreevey didn't take some kind of a stand against paper-trail free electronic voting, did he?

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  -BBV: Report from last Wednesdays meeting with the Secretary of State Ca. God_bush_n_cheney  Aug-22-04 07:07 PM   #0 
  - so what's your next move?  trumad   Aug-22-04 07:13 PM   #1 
  - I would tell you...but then  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-22-04 07:15 PM   #2 
  - Well Good Luck...  trumad   Aug-22-04 07:35 PM   #16 
     - If I know this guy....  greatauntoftriplets   Aug-22-04 07:38 PM   #18 
  - Has Bev talked to the Kerry people about this. Stephanie Cutter  mbee   Aug-22-04 07:18 PM   #4 
     - We are quite accessible...  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-22-04 07:24 PM   #8 
        - Have you tried to contact FL Sen. Graham, author of voting reform bill?  flpoljunkie   Aug-22-04 07:58 PM   #28 
  - Is there any legitimate reason for a "second set of books?"  flpoljunkie   Aug-22-04 07:16 PM   #3 
  - No there isn't...but this report does not mention  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-22-04 07:18 PM   #5 
     - Unbelievable! Why aren't our Democratic Senators screaming about this?  flpoljunkie   Aug-22-04 07:25 PM   #9 
     - It is part of the solution but not the only one.  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-22-04 07:29 PM   #11 
        - this is the biggest Republican twofer ever  donkeyotay   Aug-23-04 02:30 PM   #61 
     - GbnC, I have a question regarding opti-scan machines.  flpoljunkie   Aug-22-04 07:30 PM   #14 
        - No it will not solve it.  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-22-04 07:38 PM   #19 
  - it must certainly be frustrating to see it moving so slow  burythehatchet   Aug-22-04 07:18 PM   #6 
  - Criminals hiring criminals and and theft facilitated by government  higher class   Aug-22-04 07:19 PM   # 
  - that's business as usual for this cabal for the last 50 years n/t  Pallas180   Aug-22-04 08:30 PM   #42 
  - You are not wrong  zeemike   Aug-22-04 07:19 PM   #7 
  - "He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual,  SimpleTrend   Aug-22-04 07:27 PM   #10 
  - Perhaps it has something to do with  Boredtodeath   Aug-22-04 07:37 PM   #17 
     - Bev did not "call him out"  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-22-04 07:41 PM   #22 
        - OK, if you say so  Boredtodeath   Aug-22-04 07:43 PM   #24 
           - Why would Bev 'call out' someone who has been an eloquent.......  ParanoidPat   Aug-23-04 12:03 AM   #56 
  - Kevin Shelley has been under constant fire for a couple weeks  impeachdubya   Aug-22-04 07:30 PM   #12 
  - Shelley started caving in around the same time  AndyTiedye   Aug-22-04 07:32 PM   #15 
  - No one believes that Assnold is really our Governor.  Cleita   Aug-22-04 07:40 PM   #21 
  - They'd need to rig a helluva lot of machines to give Bush CA.  impeachdubya   Aug-22-04 10:49 PM   #55 
  - No shit.  Cleita   Aug-22-04 07:39 PM   #20 
  - and "Recounts" are Done with The Same Optical Scan Machines  AndyTiedye   Aug-22-04 07:30 PM   #13 
  - From precinct walking the past few weeks, it seems  Cleita   Aug-22-04 07:43 PM   #23 
  - Absentee is no safer...  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-22-04 07:55 PM   #26 
     - Absentee ballots would provide a paper trail, which could be hand counted  flpoljunkie   Aug-22-04 08:08 PM   #33 
        - The laws in most states do not allow the hand counting...  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-22-04 08:11 PM   #36 
           - The absentee ballot would be a paper ballot, wouldn't it? But in FL, NO  flpoljunkie   Aug-22-04 08:18 PM   #37 
  - In 2000, Katherine Harris instructed counties that a recount was not an  flpoljunkie   Aug-22-04 08:29 PM   #41 
     - Can you source that?  RedEagle   Aug-23-04 12:30 AM   #57 
     - Read this and tell me what you think.  ParanoidPat   Aug-23-04 12:51 AM   #59 
  - This account is a little inaccurate.....  ParanoidPat   Aug-22-04 07:48 PM   #25 
  - Question: Who all would have access to the machine running GEMS?  flpoljunkie   Aug-22-04 07:56 PM   #27 
     - As an King county Washington...  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-22-04 07:59 PM   #29 
     - Do all opti-scan systems have this fatal flaw, i.e., Accu-Vote Optical Tab  flpoljunkie   Aug-22-04 08:01 PM   #30 
        - If the system is feeding votes into the GEMS server  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-22-04 08:06 PM   #32 
           - Do all the opti-scan systems use the GEMS server? Or just Diebold?  flpoljunkie   Aug-22-04 08:10 PM   #35 
              - No only Diebold  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-22-04 08:23 PM   #38 
     - That's a really good question, no one really seems to know!  ParanoidPat   Aug-22-04 08:09 PM   #34 
  - have you met with Jimmy Carter on this?  nofurylike   Aug-22-04 08:02 PM   #31 
  - I was just going to post the same. take it to Jimmy Carter--  Pallas180   Aug-22-04 08:25 PM   #39 
  - Also go on AIR AMERICA with it and try O'Lielly & Hannity- they cant  Pallas180   Aug-22-04 08:27 PM   #40 
  - I contacted the Carter Center. org prior to the 2002 elections.....  ParanoidPat   Aug-22-04 08:38 PM   #44 
     - is up to all of us now...  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-22-04 08:55 PM   #49 
     - Not after what I've seen!  ParanoidPat   Aug-22-04 09:21 PM   #50 
     - There is one possible last ditch plan.  SophieZ   Aug-22-04 09:36 PM   #53 
        - Yep, Ellen and Voters Unite are working with  hedda_foil   Aug-23-04 07:35 PM   #72 
     - ** !! URGENT!!** you all have worked incredibly hard  nofurylike   Aug-23-04 01:56 AM   #60 
  - meeting with eh people being leaned on  PATRICK   Aug-22-04 08:40 PM   #46 
  - G_dBushnCheney - so what do we do to help? how can we  Pallas180   Aug-22-04 08:36 PM   #43 
  - GBNC Course after they change results, someone coud have our own hackers c  Pallas180   Aug-22-04 08:39 PM   #45 
  - There is no place in a Democratic Republic  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-22-04 08:54 PM   #48 
     - GNBC- there is nothing honest about these globalists - the intent  Pallas180   Aug-22-04 09:23 PM   #51 
        - I have to go with Andy on this one......  ParanoidPat   Aug-22-04 09:49 PM   #54 
        - Intent is world domination and they don't play with integrity and honesty.  Zan_of_Texas   Aug-23-04 12:41 AM   #58 
  - Well our investigations are not free.  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-22-04 08:51 PM   #47 
     - GBNC - I volunteered to Bev's e mail & never heard back about  Pallas180   Aug-22-04 09:30 PM   #52 
  - No one will take this seriously, but I'm going to try again anyway.....  Zorra   Aug-23-04 03:01 PM   #62 
  - we need to raise the tone of our outrage immdeiately or another  cthrumatrix   Aug-23-04 03:11 PM   #63 
     - If enough people participate in a week long general strike and consumer  Zorra   Aug-23-04 04:10 PM   #66 
        - Good luck trying to organize that.......  ParanoidPat   Aug-23-04 04:33 PM   #67 
           - Pat, the problem is that the republicans will not take any  Zorra   Aug-23-04 06:19 PM   #69 
              - "I guess it is just best to sit back and relax on the couch,.......  ParanoidPat   Aug-23-04 07:16 PM   #71 
                 - Pat: I understand that hacking an election is wrong. But the fact is:  Zorra   Aug-24-04 04:46 AM   #73 
  - Two Questions  HFishbine   Aug-23-04 03:15 PM   #64 
     - The members of the VSP considered it a closed, private meeting.....  ParanoidPat   Aug-23-04 04:05 PM   #65 
        - A similar dodge was used in Georgia.  Zan_of_Texas   Aug-23-04 05:41 PM   #68 
           - Looking for one brave election official...  hunter   Aug-23-04 06:37 PM   #70 

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